Apparently I need new batteries...again...3000mah just ain't cutting it

[Shadav]

just found this.... seems good, what do you think? at $13 it's worth a shot
VariCore v40

 

[DaveP]

holy crap.... you got me interested but not at $60 lmfao
looking to invest in a better charger now I guess instead of my 3 basic 2 bay chargers

Unless your 2 bay chargers are lower powered (under 1A charge rate), I wouldn't worry. Most newer 4 bay chargers will charge all 4 bays at 1A or 2 bays at 2A. 1A is an optimal charge rate. 2A tends to heat the cells more than I like.

Higher cost chargers tend to offer more features that provide information on battery condition.

Efest LUC 4 is a favorite around here. 4 bays at 1A. I like the Zanflare C4, which also charges 4 bays at 1A. the C4 provides a little more info, such as internal resistance and that can be a strong indicator of cell condition. Internal resistance rises slowly as a cell ages from repeated charge and discharge.

Here's an Ebay deal on the LUC 4 at $22.99.
Efest LUC V4 LCD Universal 4 Channel Vape Battery Charger 3.6V 3.7V Lithium ion 6958946201897 | eBay

 

[listopencil]

We need a turb

This is a surprisingly common thing. Someone needs to do a decent tether mod that works off a 12v cigarette lighter port for people like truckers and stuff. Something that won’t simply self destruct the way those cheapass tethers did. What seems to be the current solution is USB pass through. It’s kinda hard on batteries though.

Innokin made exactly that, the iTaste DRV device. I almost bought one when they went on clearance last year. I don't know if you can still get them. I guess they didn't sell well.

 

[vapdivrr]

Let's say you were still smoking, and were doing a half pack a day with an average nic level, then seen another brand of cig that was zero nic or extremely low nic and decided to try, but now your smoking 5 packs a day or 100 cigs a day, would you continue to do that? Now if someone seen you increasing to 100 cigs a day and chain vaping and asked you, why are you smoking 10x's more then you were yesterday and you said, I'm trying to reduce my nic, they would think your crazy. I may be wrong, but that's how I see it when I see folks reducing nic, but seriously increasing their consumption. Still better then smoking however, so whatever it takes, just hope you get it worked out, good luck

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[DaveP]

I understood basically none of that. You wouldn’t also happen to speak “Luddite” would you?
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Ohms law says that:
E=I/R so R=I/E in this case.

RayofLight just inserted a known resistance in parallel with the internal resistance of the cell and his calculation produced the same result with the combined value of the internal battery resistance coupled in parallel with the value of the added high watt resistor. He then knew the voltage value/voltage drop of the two resistances in parallel with the cell and could make the calculation accurately.

I'll have to admit that his method was impressive.

 

[Shadav]

Let's say you were still smoking, and were doing a half pack a day with an average nic level, then seen another brand of cig that was zero nic or extremely low nic and decided to try, but now your smoking 5 packs a day or 100 cigs a day, would you continue to do that? Now if someone seen you increasing to 100 cigs a day and chain vaping and asked you, why are you smoking 10x's more then you were yesterday and you said, I'm trying to reduce my nic, they would think your crazy. I may be wrong, but that's how I see it when I see folks reducing nic, but seriously increasing their consumption. Still better then smoking however, so whatever it takes, just hope you get it worked out, good luck

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na me increasing my vaping isn't about reducing my nic....I enjoy vaping and found myself chain vaping while I was stuck at home but chain vaping even at 3mg (which is my normal) I would start to make myself sick.... it's more of a habit to vape while I'm relaxing or working on my computer....so I'd rather chain vape 0 - 1mg for relaxing than my normal 3mg
at the moment it's not so much a nic fix as it's just a habit.....pick up the vape while watch a show or trying to code my website

 

[bombastinator]

Ohms law says that:
E=I/R so R=I/E in this case.

RayofLight just inserted a known resistance in parallel with the internal resistance of the cell and his calculation produced the same result with the combined value of the internal battery resistance coupled in parallel with the value of the added high watt resistor. He then knew the voltage value of the two resistances in parallel with the cell and could make the calculation accurately.

I'll have to admit that his method was impressive.

That.... didn’t help at all.

Well it probably did, but I’m gonna have to read his post again to see if I can figure it out.

 

[dripster]

Just grab yourself a Rage Squonk (by OhmBoyOC and Desire), dual 18650, and still the bees knees as far as usability goes on a regulated squonker. You don't really need a fancy schmancy LCD display on a battery charger, as you can tell by vaping when a battery has lost performance due to battery aging so an excellent choice if you're on a budget IMO is the Nitecore Q4, or the Nitecore UMS4 if you are willing to spend the extra $10, as the latter lets you adjust the charging rate in 100mA increments so that you can always be certain that you will be able to select your preferred optimum tradeoff between faster charging and slower battery aging resulting from battery charging. Both the Q4 and the UMS4 run noticeably cooler in comparison to other 4 bay chargers that have been mentioned by other (im)posters in this thread. The heat generated by the electronics inside a charger also heats up the batteries, which causes them to age faster, in many cases significantly during fast charging, and in some cases also increases the potential risk of the charger catching on fire.

 

[stols001]

Well I say "just get a dicodes mod" it will read your battery amperage for you from start to finish.

I was a bit shocked at some of the "reads" of some of my older batteries, I must say. Some have been put out to pasture, etc.

Oh you could get some other device to measure your battery's actual charge, but it won't be as fun as a Dicodes.

Anna

 

[vapdivrr]

na me increasing my vaping isn't about reducing my nic....I enjoy vaping and found myself chain vaping while I was stuck at home but chain vaping even at 3mg (which is my normal) I would start to make myself sick.... it's more of a habit to vape while I'm relaxing or working on my computer....so I'd rather chain vape 0 - 1mg for relaxing than my normal 3mg
at the moment it's not so much a nic fix as it's just a habit.....pick up the vape while watch a show or trying to code my website

Gotcha

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[bombastinator]

Just grab yourself a Rage Squonk (by OhmBoyOC and Desire), dual 18650, and still the bees knees as far as usability goes on a regulated squonker.

out of production as far as I can tell. They’re out of stock almost everywhere. Might be a few around somewhere still though

You don't really need a fancy schmancy LCD display on a battery charger, as you can tell by vaping when a battery has lost performance due to battery aging

I used to do that. I find I personally prefer piece of mind. If I forget when I bought a battery or the date on it is messed up it doesn’t matter. I can just check it for safety. When I bought a charger with metering I found out I was mostly either throwing them out too early or keeping them dangerously long. If you err on the side of not used up it is going to take a few years to pay off the price difference of the charger in fewer battery purchases. Erring in the other direction is of course dangerous so it’s hard to value it.

so an excellent choice if you're on a budget IMO is the Nitecore Q4, or the Nitecore UMS4 if you are willing to spend the extra $10, as the latter lets you adjust the charging rate in 100mA increments so that you can always be certain that you will be able to select your preferred optimum tradeoff between faster charging and slower battery aging resulting from battery charging.

True. Now if only one knew what those numbers actually were...

Both the Q4 and the UMS4 run noticeably cooler in comparison to other 4 bay chargers that have been mentioned by other
(im)posters in this thread.

(im)posters huh? Wow. Still mad I see. Mention that you don’t think supersubohm mechanical mods are so much better than anything else that they’re actually worth dying for, and worse yet prove it, and this guy will grind at it forever it seems.
I’m going to have to apologize for @dripster here. This one is about me and his personal vendetta it seems. Got to admire the tenacity and conviction though.
Both those chargers are fairly old btw and are actually sometimes more expensive than “intelligent” chargers with similar features. The heat thing might be true though since often old hardware does tend to be more heavily built than new hardware. It becomes a question of which is safer: being able to see what the effects are, or potentially having lower effects.

The heat generated by the electronics inside a charger also heats up the batteries, which causes them to age faster, in many cases significantly during fast charging, and in some cases also increases the potential risk of the charger catching on fire.

Gonna have to stop you there. Making claims about potential unmeasurables is one thing, especially when there is a non zero chance you are correct, but threatening fire is something else. I’m gonna need to see some data.
How.
Much.?
Are we talking a few hundred degrees (in which case you are clearly correct, and there is a charger maker badly in need of a lawsuit) or a few degrees, in which case such things would be overwhelmed by a simple household thermostat change and you’re simply still angry?

 

[Punk In Drublic]

The Rage is perhaps not as popular as it was when first released, but still widely available – Fasttech has them all except the white. BUT, it is not the only duel cell squonker in the sandbox. Pulse Dual, Topside or even the Drone if you are willing to dish out the extra - just to name a few. And with the Drone comes the control Escribe provides. @Shadav – personally I think you would benefit from a dual cell squonker. Or, if you are willing to forgo the squonk convince, a triple cell device would also play into your favour. LV Triade with a Profile Unity mesh RTA….now we’re talkin’!

For those interested in chargers, this is a good source. Reviewer even perform temperature tests!

Batteries and chargers

 

[Jazzman]

The Rage is perhaps not as popular as it was when first released, but still widely available – Fasttech has them all except the white. BUT, it is not the only duel cell squonker in the sandbox. Pulse Dual, Topside or even the Drove if you are willing to dish out the extra - just to name a few. And with the Drone comes the control Escribe provides. @Shadav – personally I think you would benefit from a dual cell squonker. Or, if you are willing to forgo the squonk convince, a triple cell device would also play into your favour. LV Triade with a Profile Unity mesh RTA….now we’re talkin’!

For those interested in chargers, this is a good source. Reviewer even perform temperature tests!

Batteries and chargers

Great link on charger info @Punk In Drublic . There's at least half a bottle of good scotch worth of information there!

 

[bombastinator]

The Rage is perhaps not as popular as it was when first released, but still widely available – Fasttech has them all except the white. BUT, it is not the only duel cell squonker in the sandbox. Pulse Dual, Topside or even the Drone if you are willing to dish out the extra - just to name a few. And with the Drone comes the control Escribe provides. @Shadav – personally I think you would benefit from a dual cell squonker. Or, if you are willing to forgo the squonk convince, a triple cell device would also play into your favour. LV Triade with a Profile Unity mesh RTA….now we’re talkin’!

For those interested in chargers, this is a good source. Reviewer even perform temperature tests!

Batteries and chargers

Kudos on the link. I got to read up on my charger and I finally found out what those probe thingies are for. I actually could find a use for them it turns out.

 

[bubba106]

Yeah you need to get some dual batt mods, I started with single batt mods but when I got my first dual batt I was shocked at how long it went before I needed to replace the batteries.

 

[Shadav]

but but I'm really liking squonking lol
I got the lift sta to try and it's meh....nice when it works but not so nice when it doesn't..... going to try the cthulhu genius
I got the dovpo topside, wish I'd waited a bit longer and gotten the dual.... I got the ijoy capo 100w, it's ok, I like it for it's size but I like the topside more... I had the asmodus spruzza but it was defected....
with the spruzza i didn't notice my batteries draining quicker....but with the dovpo and now capo I'm eating through batteries like crazy
so I got the lift to use on my aegis legend but it's really hit and miss....hoping the cthulhu genius works well so I can use it on the legend and then I also have a cov tempest but haven't been able to use it yet, need 3 new batteries for it...the only set of 3 batteries i have are old samsung 26f's and they wouldn't power the mod up....got 4 sony vtc6's coming in (already have 2) so I'll have 6 batteries to rotate through the cov or the legend
maybe after summer I'll get a dual squonk mod lmfao I really need to quit buying vape stuff at the moment....blew my budget completely out of the water

 

[Punk In Drublic]

hoping the cthulhu genius works well

Have you seen Grim Green’s vid on the Cthulhu? He mentions it does not take much effort to unseat the silicon sleeve, spilling juice all over the place.

 

[Shadav]

Have you seen Grim Green’s vid on the Cthulhu? He mentions it does not take much effort to unseat the silicon sleeve, spilling juice all over the place.

yeah I saw that one...I watched 6 reviews and he was the only one that said that....makes me leary.... but he does mention it was after he'd taken it apart and cleaned it and he's pushing rather hard lmfao.... I donno.... I found one for $16 (I've spent more on crappy tanks and rdas lmfao) so it was at least worth a shot....

 

[Punk In Drublic]

yeah I saw that one...I watched 6 reviews and he was the only one that said that....makes me leary.... but he does mention it was after he'd taken it apart and cleaned it and he's pushing rather hard lmfao.... I donno.... I found one for $16 (I've spent more on crappy tanks and rdas lmfao) so it was at least worth a shot....

Guess for $16 it could be worth the gamble.

 

[Skunk!]

but but I'm really liking squonking lol
I got the lift sta to try and it's meh....nice when it works but not so nice when it doesn't..... going to try the cthulhu genius
I got the dovpo topside, wish I'd waited a bit longer and gotten the dual.... I got the ijoy capo 100w, it's ok, I like it for it's size but I like the topside more... I had the asmodus spruzza but it was defected....
with the spruzza i didn't notice my batteries draining quicker....but with the dovpo and now capo I'm eating through batteries like crazy
so I got the lift to use on my aegis legend but it's really hit and miss....hoping the cthulhu genius works well so I can use it on the legend and then I also have a cov tempest but haven't been able to use it yet, need 3 new batteries for it...the only set of 3 batteries i have are old samsung 26f's and they wouldn't power the mod up....got 4 sony vtc6's coming in (already have 2) so I'll have 6 batteries to rotate through the cov or the legend
maybe after summer I'll get a dual squonk mod lmfao I really need to quit buying vape stuff at the moment....blew my budget completely out of the water

All the Admodus mods I have had got really good battery life. I imagine the Drone would be even better. DNA chips are known to give you a lot of runtime. If you go for the Topside then I would suggest getting some 40T Samsung batteries. They are 4000 mah and 30A.