Are my symptoms related to vaping? Help me thred ^.^

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Mike95

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Much relevant to your nicotine strength, post it here and let's give some advice to you. I have experienced similar symptom like you of course not serious as you. See your doctor immediately at first.

I have used 1.8 per ml nicotine up to January and have since dropped to 1.2 per ml. Is this much of an increase after only getting 0.6 from cigarettes previously?
 

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Cigarette withdrawal can cause much of what ails you, google will tell u that.

U also may have developed allergies I know i have, smoking can mask several minor and annoying ailments.

Now so u know I'm not a Doctor, nor do I play one on TV. Just saying.

Withdrawal can cause havoc for up to 1 year and for some even longer, if your Doctor has found nothing after doing multiple tests, possibly see another or visit your nearest casualty ward, or is it infirmary. Sorry forget now.

Vapeing is a safer alternative to smoking. Best of luck to yah, please don't worry and get better perhaps time does heal all wounds.
 

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I have used 1.8 per ml nicotine up to January and have since dropped to 1.2 per ml. Is this much of an increase after only getting 0.6 from cigarettes previously?

U can't compare smoking with Vapeing as the molecules in Vaper compared to smoke are way way larger, and can't penetrate the fine areas of your lungs. Look it up the info Is here on ECF.

Vapeing is 99% safer, ergo u don't get the 7300 other Chemicals that smoking does.

The math won't work because of to many variables.
 

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What can I say... (hmmm, thinking....)

Well, let me start with this. I don't like E-Lites. They are extortionate in price and "pretend" they do "x" amount cigarettes and one presumes their lawyers have gone over their marketing information with a fine tooth comb, as they mathematically/scientifically CANNOT do even 30, let alone 40 cigarettes in nicotine yeild. Their strongest refill is 24mg, and one cartomizer will yield approximately half a packet of medium strength cigarettes. They charge £3.99 per refill, whereas most of us pay £1. (work that out over a whole year.... and it's £1,000s more expensive).

let's go on.... E-Lites are the biggest brand by £money£ made (no surprise given they are up to 4 times as expensive as other "makes" that sell an identical product). They are a money making product that makes impossible claims to sell their product.

and more.... If you have quit with them, your nicotine intake has plummeted to very little, unless you are using 1, maybe 2 refills a day.

What am I trying to say?

1) we don't know what's in them - whereas a refillable e-cig with carefully chosen e-liquid (from the best sources) will use liquid that is mixed using ingredients known to the company.
2) They are incredibly inefficient.... these e-cigs are little more than a placebo. Consider this scenario;

You smoke a packet a day. You buy an e-cig product that claims to do 2 packets. Those 2 packets are supposedly "vaped" over 300-400 puffs. So, 150 puffs is claiming to be 1 packet of cigarettes. If you vaped 15 times a day, having 10 puffs per vape, you would be getting about the same as 5 cigarettes PER DAY in nicotine yield.

I vape 2ml a day. It costs me less than 50p on e-liquid. (I admit, I have £750-worth of hardware.....)

To do this with E-Lites would require me to buy £8 per day in refills and vape 600-800 puffs per day, whereas I actually vape 15-20 times a day with a dozen puffs at most. E-lites would cost me £2,920 per year.

I am not drawing any conclusions for you here, but I do know two things. 1) your nicotine intake has dropped significantly, so maybe you could actually give up.... 2) small cig-a-likes with refills are a rip-off and they are also the type of e-cig where you have the least control over what you are vaping.

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I can't comment on Greensmoke.

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Seriously, you should buy a simple refillable e-cig and try different liquids. Puff on it as little as possible.

a) you'll get your nicotine fix (whether you want to "level out" or "drop down"...)
b) you'll be able to use FAR LESS puffs with a better e-cig.

I try to puff as little as possible. My e-liquid contains as little flavouring as possible. Vaping is not 100% safe, but safer.
 
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I have used 1.8 per ml nicotine up to January and have since dropped to 1.2 per ml. Is this much of an increase after only getting 0.6 from cigarettes previously?

One comment on this. 1.2/1.8/2.4mg liquid has no direct correlation to the nicotine in a cigarette. It you have dropped to 1.2mg liquid, you are getting close to basically giving up nicotine....(with a cig-a-like device...)

We do not know the YIELD from vaping, but we do know how much nicotine is leaving the device(s).

Total nicotine before smoking/vaping, the amount of nicotine in the smoke/vapour and YIELD are not the same thing.

A cigarette contains approx 10mg before smoking. That same cigarette will produce (under laboratory conditions, using a robot) about 0.6-1.0mg of nicotine. What your body gets is anyone's guess.
Vaping is less efficient. We know the yield is not even 50%, but logically should be more than 20% depending on the device used to vape.
 
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E-Lites Menthol 'E-Tips' - 1.6% Nicotine per ml. Ingredients-Water, Propylene Glycol, Glycerol & E-Lites flavours
Green Smoke 'Flavoured Cartomisers'- 1.2% Nicotine per ml. Ingredients-USP Grade Propylene Glycol, USP Grade Glycerol, Artificial Flavourings.

Ingredients are listed in order of amount, so both of those are high in PG. It might only be 51:49, but it probably is more like 70:30. Definitely try an eGo starter kit with 100% VG as a test and then maybe try 20:80. An intolerance of VG is rarer than one to PG, but it does happen and seems to produce gastro-intestinal symptoms. At this stage I don't think that is your problem, just something to be aware of.

But keep in close touch with your doctor. It sounds to me that there's more wrong than can be explained by vaping PG, and those are symptoms you don't want to ignore.

If your doctor is not convinced that you should be using e-cigs, it may help to point him at this report by the Royal College of Physicians: http://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/commentary/what-you-need-know-about-electronic-cigarettes
Despite the controversies, it is clear that e-cigarettes are far less hazardous than is tobacco. With more than a million UK smokers using them to help to cut down or quit smoking, they are proving to be valuable harm reduction and cessation products and could make a substantial contribution to reducing the burden of death, disability and poverty currently caused by tobacco smoking. Health professionals should embrace this potential by encouraging smokers, particularly those disinclined to use licensed nicotine replacement therapies, to try them, and, when possible, to do so in conjunction with existing NHS smoking cessation and harm reduction support. E-cigarettes will save lives, and we should support their use.
 
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IBS, Chron's disease, ulcerative colitis etc. are conditions that are known to occur when someone quits smoking. It has nothing to do - not directly - with starting vaping.

I had severe IBS emerge when I quit smoking and tobacco use (I used loose and portion snus for years). It took years to get progressively worse. Brain fog was also something that commonly went with the IBS, as well as emerging food intolerances. So, I don't believe the symptoms are due to vaping. I was miserable before I went back to smoking, becoming a laxative junkie and able to eat very little in terms of variety.
 
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