Are Taste Totally Subjective?

[denali_41]

Frankster, I have yet to find a juice I liked that was raved about and touted as being the best ever.

That's why I haven't bought any Boba's Bounty. I already know I won't like it, because so many others do like it, nay, rave and worship it.

i already tried bobas and gorilla juice,,couldn't stand the taste of either..

 

[radamist]

I agree with you with the lamb part, but let's say you and your friend both love lamb and you try a lamb that is great in your opinion...do you honestly think your friend is going to say that it was the worst lamb they ever had. This where my point lies. I am not talking about someone who loves apples and someone who hates them...There is a difference?

There is chance he will say so. If he has bigger experience in lamb eating and has better benchmarking system he might say so. When I first tried cheap wine I thought it was greatest thing ever, but now if I taste that wine I will say it's disgusting, because I've tried so many good wines after my first glass.

Maybe little offtopic but I read somewhere about one theoretical experiment, it's more to do with human nature.
If you put people on a remote island and for centuries you provide them with the unlimited supply of most expensive 10,000$/bottle wine but once a year you give them only 1 box of cheapest beer they will think that the beer is the nectar of Gods.

 

[TonyTT]

Taste is unique to each person. There are more reasons than just tastebuds and smell, tastes can be different depending on what you eat or drink, if you were a heavy smoker or not, your mindset at the time of tasting something new, or the experiences had at tasting something new, and lots more.

I like extra fish sauce on Thai or Vietnamese food. Some cringe at the thought. At first I could not stand fish sauce and threw it away. I eventually acquired a taste for it, through good experiences.

I have always liked lamb. Lots of people hate it.

I like a lot of garlic, some cannot stand any. I like hot peppers, some will go berzerk if you get one near them.

So, when reading reviews of juices, and you do not personally know and eat with that person, you have to understand you may hate that particular juice. On the other hand, you may find one you really love and find out that everyone here hates it.

I'm vietnamese, and I learned over the years of trying to introduce my friends to fish sauce that if I tell them straight off the bat that it's fish oil, they'll smell it, get grossed out, and some will try it just to say they think it's gross. The only strategy I find that works is to take them to dinner, dip something in fish sauce, they'll ask "what is it?" I'll just tell them "try it"...and they'll eat it...then half an hour after dinner I'll ask them if they liked it, they'll say "yes" and then I'll tell them it's fish sauce and they'll then like fish sauce. I find taste is subjective because it is to linked to past experience. Everything you've eaten, tasted, smelt and experienced in the past, is so influential on your disposition to tasting new things. So when you eat a steak, it can be a good steak, but only because it seems on par with every other good steak you've ever had and becomes part of the characteristic of you re-affirming a part of your identity of a person who loves steak. I find however that for me, and the end of the day flavour is a luxury. As long as someone made some sort of effort to make the juice not taste like poop, I'll vape it. It's purpose is always first and foremost to keep me from smoking...

 

[Bozzlite]

Hello there, so how did you come up with a juice to vape?

Originally, I ordered a few samples from the vendor that I bought my Ego kit. Wasn't too impressed with those.

So, I just started ordering many 3ml samples from several vendors. Like 10 at a time. If I found one I liked, I reordered in larger sizes. Now, I've got 5 or 6 that are pretty darn decent and I stick with those..

I still order samples once in a while, but so far, no new flavors to add to my regulars. I simply will not order a large bottle of juice that I have not tried in the smallest size first. If they don't sell samples, I will take a chance on 10 ml, but not gonna spring for a 30 ml bottle to see if I like it.

When you started smoking cigarettes, how did you choose your brand?

 

[FRANKSTER]

Originally, I ordered a few samples from the vendor that I bought my Ego kit. Wasn't too impressed with those.

So, I just started ordering many 3ml samples from several vendors. Like 10 at a time. If I found one I liked, I reordered in larger sizes. Now, I've got 5 or 6 that are pretty darn decent and I stick with those..

I still order samples once in a while, but so far, no new flavors to add to my regulars. I simply will not order a large bottle of juice that I have not tried in the smallest size first. If they don't sell samples, I will take a chance on 10 ml, but not gonna spring for a 30 ml bottle to see if I like it.

When you started smoking cigarettes, how did you choose your brand?

Thanks for the info...My brand in cigs was easy...The Marlboro Man...lol

 

[swedishfish]

Thanks for the info...My brand in cigs was easy...The Marlboro Man...lol

Ever try Vapor Station Tampa? I'm not giving a personal recommendation because I don't like tobacco juice. My sister smoked Marlboro and she likes it.

 

[DaveP]

It's physical. The tongue can only taste sweet, sour, salty, and bitter. The rest of smell and taste is a product of the olfactory gland, located in your upper sinuses. Smell is slightly different in all people. What smells wonderful to you may not be so great to me. I think WD-40 spray is a great smell. My wife thinks it stinks.

To quote a movie, "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning!" (Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now)

 

[swedishfish]

It's physical. The tongue can only taste sweet, sour, salty, and bitter. The rest of smell and taste is a product of the olfactory gland, located in your upper sinuses. Smell is slightly different in all people. What smells wonderful to you may not be so great to me. I think WD-40 spray is a great smell. My wife thinks it stinks.

To quote a movie, "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning!" (Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now)

OMG, I love the smell WD-40 and my husband hates it! Another fav is wood.

 

[lasttango]

Taste is inherently subjective... but there's really nothing I can add to this very well answered post about "taste."

however... in terms of buying the right juice... because I too have fallen prey to the hype etc...

One of the first things I would do is to "discover" who on ECF has similar tastes to you...

Very early on, I realized that this guy, that guy and "she" seem to like the juices I like best... so I took my risks on juices based on what they liked...

Right now I have identified several vapers such as richie g, luceboy, bill (who all posted in this thread) etc that have very similar tastes to me... If they like something, I probably will.

I never really listen to new vapers... not because their opinions mean less... but because it is VERY common for new vapers to go on rollercoasters of subjectivity... their buds are breaking in... they haven't bought enough juice to discern what is ordinary from what is unique etc...

Second... and this is KEY... there are really only so many flavoring companies out there. I don't need to order from most of them... because I know what flavourart, perfumer's apprentice, capellas and loranns taste like!
I know what I like. I know what I don't like.

So, I do tend to look for vendors that either make their own flavors or order from lesser known flavor creators...
or avoid companies that use the brands of flavor that I don't like.

For example, I have never tasted any flavor like High Brow Vapor's Lemoncello... or like BWB's RY4/HFN... or like Vapenstein's tobacco blends... They are unique. No one else makes a flavor remotely close in my opinion. So I re-order from these companies because I know I may taste something I haven't tasted before.

The chance of being surprised and delighted increases.

So, look at who is saying it's great and what the juice is made from.

For example... if everyone is raving about lovelove vapors etc... and I notice most of their liquids are made from flavourart flavors... then I know I have already tasted those liquids from FSUSA, purevapes and many many other vendors... I do not need to order from them.

or

Everyone is raving about "high-brow" vapor... and I investigate their website and listen to their fans and learn that their lemon flavor is a flavor they created themselves from lemon peels or that their tobacco flavor is another original creation from cigar wrappers and tobacco etc... then I think that this is definitely worth trying etc...

Lastly - Lastly ;-)

Pay close attention to why you don't like something. That will help you save money... flavoring? strength? perhaps it's the PG/VG... the base... a particular flavor etc...

 

[retird]

I must say you are persistant and consistant Frankster.....numerous threads with the same subject....surely you will find a "juice you like" soon....it is really simple when you find a few juices that you like because you just order them and vape.....no more searching or reading juice reviews.......AND it becomes cost effective as you do not order juices that you do not like.....my cost for vape supplies averages $90.00 every two months...(juice and Boge carto's).....unless I want a new PV(and I only buy one specific PV, the Darwin, and maybe a Kick when they come out)

 

[FRANKSTER]

I must say you are persistant and consistant Frankster.....numerous threads with the same subject....surely you will find a "juice you like" soon....it is really simple when you find a few juices that you like because you just order them and vape.....no more searching or reading juice reviews.......AND it becomes cost effective as you do not order juices that you do not like.....my cost for vape supplies averages $90.00 every two months...(juice and Boge carto's).....unless I want a new PV(and I only buy one specific PV, the Darwin, and maybe a Kick when they come out)

First, you have to find them...it is not that easy...lol

 

[retird]

Exactly, some find their juices quickly, for others it takes longer, and some are continually searching.....hope you find yours soon....