Are you religious?
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Sorry to hear that Janoke, it sounds pretty rough.
Please could you tell me what you meant when you said this, I don't understand:
Please could you tell me what you meant when you said this, I don't understand:
I would think Religion, has been (and still is) one the worst institutions for causing gay people to feel bad about themselves and to become suicidal..Religions stir up their followers into believing it's wrong and against the will of god and all that crap.
Religion is often pretty bad about tolerance, that's true.
C. I think I love you
You saw something in that funny rhyme that a lot of people miss.
(I love you too Pete xxx)
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Oops, I see that God edited his post to mention sardines.
C. I think I love you
You saw something in that funny rhyme that a lot of people miss.
(I love you too Pete xxx)
EDIT
Oops, I see that God edited his post to mention sardines.
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My apologies if it wasn't you. My bad, then. I just think Frankl was the best shrink that ever lived. R.D. Laing was also a good read from the UK. Both helped me a lot. My brother doesn't get it. He's just to wrapped up in his "entitlements". He's 6' 2" 210 lbs, healthy as a horse and gets Food Stamps, Welfare, tranquilizers and medical marijuana.
I believe the G-man called Frankl one of his spammers(#416) in response to Mamu's original post and I said to "leave Frankl out of it" (#432).
Let me clarify: I was not bashing Viktor Frankl. I believed G-man's comment was inpertinent and cold-hearted and I found it offensive.
BTW: Great discourse in this topic today. Well done all!
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Haven't read Laing for ages, but can endorse the value of reading as a way to move forward.
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C.
It's the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it?
My now adopted daughter's bio-mother killed herself when she was 6, and she was the one who found her. Leading up to that she saw her carted off in ambulances or by the police so many times she thinks that sort of thing is normal. She's been diagnosed with an attachment disorder, which is a truly frustrating and frightening thing to deal with. Anger, entitlement, lying, stealing, crazy behavior, all part of the package.
After years of therapy I sometimes think she'll never have her head on straight. Sometimes I'm really angry with her late mother, but the person I'm most angry with is her grandmother who pretty much screwed up all of her kids. All of them have mental health issues, addictions, and screwed up children who no amount of therapy seems to help.
I always used to think there was a higher power who had a plan for all of us, but it's hard to think this kind of cr@p could possibly be part of a great plan, yk? What possible purpose could this serve? Seems pretty cruel to me.
Suicide really is an awful tragedy for everyone
I have often wanted to be dead but never thought I'd do it because of the impact it would have on other people. I really didn't think I was the sort of person who could subject anyone else to that but one day when I was very ill I was told that an ex partner had died - someone I loved dearly in what I thought was a spiritual way. I don't remember the thought processes that led me to cutting myself but it's not something I would have done if I'd been in control of my mind.
You're getting your multis mixed up Janoke.
I have often wanted to be dead but never thought I'd do it because of the impact it would have on other people. I really didn't think I was the sort of person who could subject anyone else to that but one day when I was very ill I was told that an ex partner had died - someone I loved dearly in what I thought was a spiritual way. I don't remember the thought processes that led me to cutting myself but it's not something I would have done if I'd been in control of my mind.
You're getting your multis mixed up Janoke.
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