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[loxmythe]

Try ego vision (with ego to 510 adapter) Vision CE2 Clearomizers for 510 and eGo
Or single coil cartos - I like horizontal coil cartos Kanger Cartomizers for 510 or 808

 

[Lilacs212too]

I should have added, the cartos I am using are the single coil Boge 510 3ohm (standard cartos)

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

QC is quality control.

When I'm not using a bottom feeder, I use these: Vision eGo CE4+ Clearomizer DV Edition

You might need a 510 to ego adapter, but they're cheap. With clearer juices, I have found these go on and on and on...I notice with a darker juice, a couple weeks in use, they need to be cleaned. They last and last. Worth the money.

 

[Lilacs212too]

Quality Control! Omg, i feel like an idiot the site you sent me to, B, has them for cheaper, and if I can use them and use them (all the juices I make are clear for the most part) and can clean them, too.. sounds like that might be for me! that's the good! the bad is.. they have no adapters in stock.. so! I guess that means I shall have to find more to order from GP to make the shipping for the adapter worthwhile.. thank you all for your input.. I appreciate it! I hate being a frustrated vaporer!

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

Hmmm, did they have a 510 to 510 adapter? With the way the connection is on the ProVari, that should do just fine...but the 510 to ego would be better truthfully.

 

[Lilacs212too]

I don't know if they did. I didn't even think about that as an option. I get the newb award of the day, I swear! It worked out well, though because I was able to snag some FA flavoring for a great price at GPs

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

Excellent! You won't find anything easier to use than these ce4 clearomizers. Hope you enjoy them.

 

[quittin4mykids]

I am sold on the ce4s!! And I am PICKY and whiney!!

 

[imaqt]

Pardon Me but what is WTA?

 

[beebopnjazz]

Pardon Me but what is WTA?

Sorry- had to move your post here

Whole tobacco Alkaloids - there are sections of the forum that discuss this in great detail.

 

[CalamityJan]

Help please! Since venturing into the 5.v mod arena, I feel like a noob again.

Have been using a set of Tenergy RCR123A 3.0 750mah (green) batteries on both my Shine and WOW. But since I only had the 1 set, I ordered 4 more from batteryjunction.com, only this time in the 900mah (blue). The new batteries will not fire either the Shine or the WOW. I've switched sets between APV's, checked on charger and they stay lit green, and keep having to go back to the 750 green's to get any power.

Is it because of the higher mah, something wrong with the batteries, or is there a magical chant for APV's?

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

First:
Are you using the same charger for these battery types? Is it the green tenergy's and the bue tenergy's? If so, you need two different chargers. the green: "These are NOT lithium-ion batteries. They are the new LiFePo4 (lithium iron phosphate) and although aren't 100% safe, they are much safer to use than lithium-ion batteries because they don't fail "violently".

Please still excercise caution when working with any type of rechargeable cells and do not leave them unattended when charging. Only use a battery charger rated for 3.0v LiFePo4 batteries such as our LiFePo4 Charger"

The blue 900mAh ARE lithium-ion batteries. What charger do you have?

 

[pwyll]

The higher mah Tenergy LiFePO's also have a lower discharge rating and will not fire LR atty/cartos (and maybe not SR, I don't recall). Either way, the blue ones are not really suited for vaping. If you are going for high-voltage with the LiFePO's you need to stick to the yellow/green Tenergy's


ETA: I was going to say something about the blues being LiOn's that are resisted and regulated down, but I couldn't remember for sure so I went off to investigate. Thanks to my slow typing, Bianca "confirmed" that before I even posted The blue ones require a different charger, have a very low discharge rate, and being internally resisted and/or regulated have additional points-of-failure built in.

Thanks BM!

 

[CalamityJan]

The charger I have been using on the greens is the Li-FePO4 RCR123 Charger. So this charger is not for the blue 900mah's?

Am I reading conflicting messages here, or is this still in discussion? I have the one charger with the used green batteries that have been working great.. but safely, I don't know?

I have the 4 new blue batteries, but did not order a new charger because they were still Tenergy RCR123A, just 900mah instead of 750mah. My thinking was that this would just allow them to stay charged longer, but like I said.. totally new at APV's.

Given that I have 2 greens and the above charger and now the 4 new blues which don't fire.... what do I need to buy to be safe and that will work? The blues are or are not a keeper and if yes, do I need a compatible blue charger?

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

Right, you have two different battery types, even though they are both made by Tenergy. You need a charger for the blue ones. One is a safe chemistry battery and the other is a lithium-ion battery that's proteted. The green and the yellow safe chemistry batteries are safer to stack. I don't see why the blue ones wouldn't fire unless you have something low in ohm that's tripping the protection in the batteries. Or if the switches have low amp ratings and you put low ohm and high voltage on them, they can fry.

 

[pwyll]

Back when I was looking for some more 3v's I remember seeing someone mention that the blues would not fire anything below 3ohms (or something outrageous--it basically negated the "high voltage" aspect of 6v vaping). It was the protection circuitry on the battery cutting out. Unlike some protection circuits it did not kill the batteries so they'll still do whatever they would do originally, but there was really no point in using them for vaping except for some specific VV devices with circuitry that compensated for the low C rating without over-drawing the batteries...

 

[CalamityJan]

Right, you have two different battery types, even though they are both made by Tenergy. You need a charger for the blue ones. One is a safe chemistry battery and the other is a lithium-ion battery that's proteted. The green and the yellow safe chemistry batteries are safer to stack. I don't see why the blue ones wouldn't fire unless you have something low in ohm that's tripping the protection in the batteries. Or if the switches have low amp ratings and you put low ohm and high voltage on them, they can fry.

Got it now, Chelle. Dotcom probably will not exchange blue for green but will contact them Monday to ask. Otherwise, guess I'm off in search of the greens. If I find yellows, do they need a separate charger also? I'll also dig out a higher resistance atty or carto and see if that is the issue.

No wonder I stuck with my Ego's for so long .................... but now I'm hooked on the 5v!

Thanks ♥ to you both for taking time to explain this to me. So much evolution that I haven't kept up with so I'd better get on the ball or I won't be able to help the new vapers.

 

[CalamityJan]

Back when I was looking for some more 3v's I remember seeing someone mention that the blues would not fire anything below 3ohms (or something outrageous--it basically negated the "high voltage" aspect of 6v vaping). It was the protection circuitry on the battery cutting out. Unlike some protection circuits it did not kill the batteries so they'll still do whatever they would do originally, but there was really no point in using them for vaping except for some specific VV devices with circuitry that compensated for the low C rating without over-drawing the batteries...

So would you suggest that I look for the alternative battery for each of these (Shine and WOW) and use something else instead of the 3.0's?

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

Green and Yellow are friends. Same charger.

The Shine is not regulated. You are vaping 6v with it if you're stacking batteries. (Have you tried a 18650 in it with a 1.5ohm atty on top? You should. ) The Wow is regulated to 5v. You have to stack batts in it and it only puts out 5v, no matter what the batteries are putting out.

And when in doubt about what battery to use, always look at the manufacturers suggestion. Check out the makers site and read or contact the vendor.

 

[pwyll]

Got it now, Chelle. Dotcom probably will not exchange blue for green but will contact them Monday to ask. Otherwise, guess I'm off in search of the greens. If I find yellows, do they need a separate charger also? I'll also dig out a higher resistance atty or carto and see if that is the issue.
...

The greens and yellows are the same battery--sometime last year they changed the colour on the labels.

So would you suggest that I look for the alternative battery for each of these (Shine and WOW) and use something else instead of the 3.0's?

I wouldn't. The Tenergy LiFePO's are what I use in my Prodigy, GGTB--and occasionally a Hog--when I do 6v and I've always been happy with them...