Aspire Nautilus has a Chromed Brass chimney.

[Katya]

Aspire BDC Glass ET-S - Kidney Puncher
Stainless Steel tank wrap with 2 viewing windows

I bought my first one at the local brick and mortar. They told me it was stainless steel. I thought the -S meant stainless too. Good grief.

Something must have gotten lost in translation.

Aspire - Aspire ET-S clearomizer

"Available Color: black,stainless,blue,yellow,green,purple,red,pink."

Aspire never claimed that ET-S is ss or even glass--to the best of my knowledge. However, one of the colors is called "stainless." I can't tell if the windows are glass or polycarbonate by just looking at them.

 

[Katya]

Katya, am I understanding you correctly in that the Kanger Aerotank is similar in performance to the nautilus, but has the advantage of being SS?

I really have no idea. Performance, like taste, is a bit subjective. Many people claim that nautilus's performance is superior when it comes to vapor production and even flavor. Others prefer Aerotanks. And then there are those who swear that you can't beat a tanked carto or a dripper or a Kayfun or a ProTank coil rebuilt with a microcoil and Japanese organic cotton--unless you're in the rayon camp.

So, sorry, I can't help you here.

 

[Norrin]

That's pretty disturbing; when I read the thread topic I presumed that it was really a knockoff and not a Aspire manufactured product.

It's a pretty big negative to me.

I'd buy a chrome plated brass knowoff to try out, but for a genuine brand name product I expect quality steel and not chrome; kinda defeats the point of a glass tank instead of plastic if you chimney chrome plated instead of stainless steel.

Why?????? Chrome is harder than steel so actually less likely to have any issues while in use and it's not really going to be scratched so I really can't see the issue with chrome.

 

[Katya]

Why?????? Chrome is harder than steel so actually less likely to have any issues while in use and it's not really going to be scratched so I really can't see the issue with chrome.

There are threads inside the chimney where the coil head screws in--so yes, it's being scratched every time you screw in and unscrew the coil head.

Even Aspire admits it:

"Dear Customer,
The chimney is made of brass, and the surface is chromed,you can say it is made of chromed brass.
When it is long using,the chrome on the surface will lost,and the brass will appear.
For the chimney is not easy to made of 100% stainless steel.
Have a nice day!"

 

[kkay59]

I may end up trying the Kanger Aerotank. But I'd hate to buy it, and find it is the same thing. I have it easy now just buying two kinds of Aspire coils. I was going to buy a Kanger tank for my first one, at the local brick and mortar store. They said the Aspire leaks less, at least that is what their customers told them. So I went with Aspire. Now I find the Aspire tanks they sold me aren't even genuine. I don't buy any tanks there anymore since then. I've ordered all of them online. All of my other Aspire stuff is genuine. If the Aerotank is stainless steel without a doubt, I will be tempted to get one soon. Either that, or I may buy a Kayfun. I don't know which at the moment. As far as taste, price, affordability etc.. I have been happy with Aspire. But I want them to be truthful. If there is fiberglass in the coils, I am gonna be ticked.

 

[Katya]

Kkay--we don't know what's in the coils, that's the problem. It may be something completely innocuous. If you like your Nautilus and it helps you stay away from smoking, don't throw it away--maybe try their BDC coils, or learn how to rebuild them. But keep bugging Aspire. Tell them about your concerns. They need to know that we are paying attention.

If you want to try the Aerotank, there will be a lot of great sales soon. Look for a deal--just get a tank and a 5-pack of extra coils--I like the enclosed slotted ones--they wick better than the ones with 4 small holes, 2 per side. Even if you end up not liking it as much as you like your Nautilus, you'll have some variety! It's all good!

 

[Katdarling]

I nominate Katdarling to do the sanding.

I tell ya. Some people have a lot of grit.

 

[Brettanomyces]

Why?????? Chrome is harder than steel so actually less likely to have any issues while in use and it's not really going to be scratched so I really can't see the issue with chrome.

My Nautilus mini is already showing the brass inside the chimney on the threads, in addition to wear contact with acidic material will also dissolve it. Chromium is also a known carcinogen, hexivalent chromium has been proven to be a risk for lung cancer(something many of us are already at a great risk for). To be fair I couldn't find evidence that hexivalent chromium exists past the chroming process however I did find it interesting that lung cancer was a known risk. Stainless steel that is used in cookware contains chromium, however it's one of the greater risks involved in using SS cookware(still the safest) and it's in much smaller quantities than in chrome.

After reading up on chrome it appears that my vague recollections of toxicity were mainly related to the plating process itself but the chrome does pose a larger danger than the brass and SS is most likely safer than both. The fact that it was advertised as SS and glass was a big selling point for me, I paid $40 for it locally so it wasn't exactly a cheap tank for me.

I'm not suggesting that everyone throw them away but I don't think that I'll be using mine anymore. It does make me question the ceramic fiber/fiberglass/whatever in the BVC even more.

I do think it's time for me to pick up another kayfun and maybe try an Erkolgahooey*(or however that's spelled) or a Lemo or something.

*Edit: I mean the lower tier non clone version, whatever that's called.

 

[Katya]

Erlkonigin?

 

[Norrin]

Erlkonigin?

that's the high end one he means the Erlprinz, which is the same but cheaper I think. Poorer quality and you can't swap parts around so don't know how it's the same.

 

[Brettanomyces]

that's the high end one he means the Erlprinz, which is the same but cheaper I think. Poorer quality and you can't swap parts around so don't know how it's the same.

I think that's the one. Less flash but most of the function at an affordable price, while still supporting an innovator. Acceptable, win, win, double win IMO. I really haven't done my research on it though, this is just based on the few things I've read.

 

[BigEgo]

Thanks for this thread. I was going to buy a nauty or an Atlantis. Think I will avoid Aspire products from now on.

 

[fogging_katrider]

I know you are big on FT, but can you can explain this? $23.76 Authentic Aspire Nautilus Mini BVC Clearomizer - 2.0ml / 1.8ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

You can't blame all US vendors.

When fasttech lists an item as "authentic" it is the real genuine item. ie: in this case they are selling the genuine Aspire Nautilus mini bvc. They listed the item materials as stainless steel becauase thats what Aspire had claimed it to be. So fasttech cannot be blamed for misleading anyone on this item. They simply passed on the false information Aspire published.

As for clones on fasttech...They would list it as Nautilus "style" mini bvc clearomizer

hth

 

[fogging_katrider]

Katya,
I forgot who you were talking to about the kidney puncher adapter thingie...but this post is for their attention...
That protank to bvc adapter kidney puncher sells is for using kanger dual coil heads in the old style single coil protanks (the chromed brass ones) protank 1 and protank 2. It comes with a grommet that when used with the adapter allows people to use aspire bdc bvc non nautilus coils. I dont own one of these dingfods. But it stands to reason that this adapter is just a spacer that lowers the coil holding tank base slightly to make the taller kanger dual coils fit and work in the adapted protank. Now...following this thought process they say that when the adapter is used with the grommet then an aspire bdc or bvc coil can be used in the adapted protank.

So if an "adapted" protank can run the aspire coils when the grommet is added (like the KP discription says)...it seems logical that one could just slap one of those grommets on an aspire coil and run it in an aerotank. But I'm just speculating here since I dont have the adapter or the grommet that comes with said adapter. Kidney puncher however does sell those grommets for 2.95 for a bag of five grommets.

Soooo.....Grain of salt warning here... Ask Kidney puncher about this before purchasing since I'm only speculating about this dingfod.

This of course would be something someone stuck with a crapload of aspire coils (and you know who you are heh heh) would be interested in, since for others running aspire coils in a kanger would be silly since the new BPDC cotton wicked 1.2 ohm coils in an Aerotank would probably blow away Aspires coils, and might even be better than a rebuilt cotton wicked kanger coil.

 

[DaveP]

I've occasionally though about weaning myself off the hand to mouth habit of vaping. I've considered vaping to be a relatively safe alternative to smoking, but I seem to go on and on with my vaping just because I enjoy the hobby. That's what it is at this point at the 6mg juice level. I can go for relatively long periods without having that, "gotta have a smoke" urge that I had when I actually smoked cigarettes.

I'm not impressed at all by the metal scares thrown at us by targeted lab tests. It's pretty easy to see that most of the media is hyping the results and construing the result to be more significant than it really is. I'm more worried about the metals used in dental fillings and appliances than I am about vaping.

We are exposed to all sorts of things that we would be better off without. Admittedly, the truth in the article below about unsafe dental practices is more likely steeped in hype than facts, but it shows us that there's hyperbole in just about every subject that arises. It's hard to separate facts from all the junk science.

Secrets Your Dentist Doesnt Want You To Know

Secret #3: Your dentist may be using mercury.

Mercury is toxic. Norway and Sweden have banned the use of mercury fillings.. But mercury fillings are less expensive and easier for the dentist to use. If your dentist does not use composite fillings, don't go to that dentist any more. In the US, the FDA is way behind the ball and not actively warning patients about this like they have been mandated by the courts to do.

Secret #4: The lab may be more important than your dentist.

Dental labs create dentures, crowns, bridges, orthodontic appliances, and other dental restorations like implant crowns. There is a huge difference in the quality of these labs. You should be particularly wary if your dentist is using a lab in China or Mexico. Some of the top labs in the U.S. are Aurum Ceramics, MicroDental Laboratories, da Vinci Dental Studio, and Williams Dental Lab.

 

[Phibes]

OK, some news & updates.

Phil Busardo reviewed the Atlantis and he mentioned that Atlantis has a Chromed Brass chimney, too, even though Atlantis is also advertised as Stainless Steel (somebody has to talk to Aspire what is Stainless Steel and what is not)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGK7B-2z4Gs after 3:30

So, health issues aside, Aspire's advertising is TOTALLY FALSE and TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
Busardo contacted Aspire about this and they told him that THEY REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT CHIMNEY WHEN THEY MARKETED ATLANTIS AS STEEL. He also said that they "may" post an apology.

Obviously they didn't think of that when they marketed Nautilus as SS too and I wonder if they will apologise for that too.

There you have it folks. Aspire. A company who doesn't know what Stainless Steel is. Or do they?

 

[kkay59]

Oh I think they know. This sure puts a damper on my feelings about them. I am going to try rebuildables for sure. I have decided that I am not going to buy another Mini, I had planned on getting 3-4 more of them. Now it is settled. I won't be doing that. I still like the K1 for testing juices, but I think a rebuildable is the route I will be taking.

 

[Phibes]

That's exactly what I was thinking kkay59 when I tried Nautilus and Nautilus mini, to get 2-3 of them.

And then I found the thread about the chimney on Aspire forum. Even though I'm new vaper (2 months), I've decided to try RBAs and RDAs and I couldn't be happier.
Building your own coils is super fun and it's way cheaper than getting a 5-coil Aspire pack and *hope* that at least 3 of them are good.

 

[kkay59]

I'm very new as well. I started vaping one month ago. I wish I knew all this stuff before I bought anything. Oh well, you live, and learn.

 

[BigEgo]

OK, some news & updates.

Phil Busardo reviewed the Atlantis and he mentioned that Atlantis has a Chromed Brass chimney, too, even though Atlantis is also advertised as Stainless Steel (somebody has to talk to Aspire what is Stainless Steel and what is not)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGK7B-2z4Gs after 3:30

So, health issues aside, Aspire's advertising is TOTALLY FALSE and TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
Busardo contacted Aspire about this and they told him that THEY REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT CHIMNEY WHEN THEY MARKETED ATLANTIS AS STEEL. He also said that they "may" post an apology.

Obviously they didn't think of that when they marketed Nautilus as SS too and I wonder if they will apologise for that too.

There you have it folks. Aspire. A company who doesn't know what Stainless Steel is. Or do they?

To be fair, Phil also said that Aspire plans on releasing all stainless chimneys in the future. IMO, they should offer them free, but I doubt that.