soak it in some VG and make a NET out of it
At what point is somebody really a non smoker?
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soak it in some VG and make a NET out of it
This is such an interesting, diverse group of people. I fall into a couple of 'camps'. Quitting seemed easy to me, I think because I wanted to quit. I impulsively bought a BLU starter kit at Costco and that was the end of cigarettes for me (1 PAD for 25+ yrs). I did try smoking 2 days later just to see if I wanted one. Nope, 3 puffs and I put it out and went back inside. At that point, I started counting my days as a non smoker and embarked on my vaping journey. Fortunately, I found ECF on day 1 and started a new hobby - shiney, shiney, must have shiney! I had an upgrade in hand within a week.
I have an unopened carton of cigarettes sitting in the bottom of a closet and they haven't tempted me at all. I smile at them sometimes when I open that closet because I'm happy I've moved on.
The last 6 months have been extraordinarily stressful, with a trifecta of work, family and health issues. That I've survived this tumultuous time with no interest in smoking shows me that it's truly in my past. Others may be like DC and smoke some, that's cool, but that doesn't appeal to me.
I am a vaper. I am a non smoker and I no longer fear cigarettes. It amazes me how time flies - I'm just 3 weeks away from my 1st vaperversary!
For me (everyone's mentality is different) in my mind I was a non-smoker the day I woke up, rolled over in bed, had both a pack of cigarettes and a mod next to it, and I reached for the mod over the pack of smokes.
I've never looked back.
I've never looked back.
I don't worry about nicotine except for the health insurance tests. Nic itself hasn't been proved to be a problem. It's all the alkaloids in tobacco that are troublesome and carcinogenic. Nic is said to be about as much a hazard as caffeine.
When I can vape 0 nic, then I'll be classified as a non-smoker for health insurance. It's not really fair that they test for nic instead of carcinogens, but that's how the insurance world rolls.
I'm happy at 6mg nic and don't think that there's any clear and present danger had I done that all my life. I'm sure my lungs would be nice and pink if I had vaped instead of smoking. They say it takes years for your lungs to return to that of a non-smoker, but mine are much better after 4 years of vaping.
I have a pulse oximeter that I use while doing my daily exercise regime. After doing 120 reps of various free weight exercises, I get on my stationary bike and watch Amazon Prime video shows while doing a 5 mile ride at 50% up to 80% resistance in 8 minute stages. During and after that ride my oxygen levels maintain at 98% with occasional drops to 96 and 97 if I forget and don't breathe deeply. A few deep breaths while pedaling brings me back to 98% O-Sat.
When I can vape 0 nic, then I'll be classified as a non-smoker for health insurance. It's not really fair that they test for nic instead of carcinogens, but that's how the insurance world rolls.
I'm happy at 6mg nic and don't think that there's any clear and present danger had I done that all my life. I'm sure my lungs would be nice and pink if I had vaped instead of smoking. They say it takes years for your lungs to return to that of a non-smoker, but mine are much better after 4 years of vaping.
I have a pulse oximeter that I use while doing my daily exercise regime. After doing 120 reps of various free weight exercises, I get on my stationary bike and watch Amazon Prime video shows while doing a 5 mile ride at 50% up to 80% resistance in 8 minute stages. During and after that ride my oxygen levels maintain at 98% with occasional drops to 96 and 97 if I forget and don't breathe deeply. A few deep breaths while pedaling brings me back to 98% O-Sat.
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For me it's pretty simple really. If you aren't smoking than you aren't a smoker...therefore you are a nonsmoker. But I get that it can be hard to think of it that way where smoking is concerned since we try so many times & think we are "nonsmokers" but then end up going back again so then we really aren't nonsmokers. It's probably easier to think about it in terms of how recovering addicts think about their addiction. They are "recovering". But sometimes they have relapses & are users. When they decide again to not be users they are back to being in recovery.
Hello neighbor and welcome to ECF! Congrats on making the switch to a much healthier alternative.
I don't think there's a hard and fast rule for getting labeled as a non-smoker. In fact, government rules make it so that once a smoker you're always a smoker. According to CDC guidelines, a smoker is anyone who's ever smoked 200 cigarettes in their life time, whether or not they currently smoke, or how long ago they last smoked.
That nonsense aside, you're welcome to label yourself as non-smoker if you feel you're a non-smoker. I considered myself a non-smoker the very next day after switching to ecigs, and continue to wear that label proudly, irrespective of the ANTZ propaganda.
What total, steaming BS! What, do they actually WANT to remove ANYONE'S incentive to quit smoking???? I'd say that's tipping their hand pretty clearly, that they'd FAR rather we all kept smoking and dying from it, than took any of their precious "research" money away by quitting in droves and stopping all the preventable deaths!
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Well, someone has to pay high rates for health insurance so that the rest can get a deal on theirs.
I can remember a time when policy registration forms for company insurance didn't ask who smoked and who didn't. Everyone paid the same premium.
The first year that insurers were required to pay out 80% of the premiums or give it back to the insured, I didn't have to pay HI premiums from July until the next cycle began in January. I had a credit to use up before I had to pay again. Now, they are getting the money back in higher premiums.
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I've been a non-smoker for 1,453 days
I do still remember back to my first few months vaping and while being thrilled I no longer smoked cigarettes I still wasn't ready to get rid of those cartons of cigarettes I had just purchased before ordering my first ecig "just in case" I fell off the wagon and started smoking again. I wasn't worried about the money I'd spend on them but they still were my connection to something I'd done for a long time and hadn't been able to successfully give up and any previous try. Eventually I gave them all away to my best friends husband.
I do still remember back to my first few months vaping and while being thrilled I no longer smoked cigarettes I still wasn't ready to get rid of those cartons of cigarettes I had just purchased before ordering my first ecig "just in case" I fell off the wagon and started smoking again. I wasn't worried about the money I'd spend on them but they still were my connection to something I'd done for a long time and hadn't been able to successfully give up and any previous try. Eventually I gave them all away to my best friends husband.
in my opinoin no but in the opinion of insurance companies a year is how long it takes mine ask have you used any tobacoo broducts in the last year...
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