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Athiest Converts After Seeing a Demon on His Shoulder!

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blondeambition3

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Me again...the only reason I'm posting is because you all have now really confused me about the whole question about Atheists and their alleged connection to Satan. The original post I made was inspired by comments made that linked Atheists directly to Satan - saying they are children of Satan - which essentially makes them sound like Satan worshipers, and therefore "bad" people. I took offense to this, because I do not think that a person who denies the existence of "gods" or "deities" is automatically a bad person - or a child of Satan.

Now, you have posted things like "I'm with you, I don't believe all Atheists worship (or even acknowledge) Satan, it's like you said, they worship no one or nothing." and "Most atheists dont believe in satan, so they aren't worshiping him."

Previously, you posted things like, "If you don't choose God and follow Him exclusively, you choose Satan by default." and "God doesn't "make" a person a child of satan, a person chooses that himself. If he does not choose God, then he chooses satan by default because those are the only 2 options."

I'm glad I came back to read some more, because now I see that some people don't agree with their own assertion that Atheist = Satan Worshiper. No one asserted that all Atheists worship Satan.The person/Creator of the Video we were discussing on this thread was the one who asserts that by choosing to be an Atheist - by default - he was serving Satan. Some of us choose (based on scripture) that his personal conclusion was a valid one. You're permitted to disagree with us if you like, but my position has never changed on this. I believe that ALL Atheists, by default, no matter how many 'good works' they do are still serving Satan - by default - because they choose not to take the FREE GIFT of eternal Life that God the Father has offered them. The reason I'm glad to see that is because, as I stated repeatedly, it isn't true. I don't mean to be offensive, but are you GOD? Does what 'you' think or feel make anything 'true?'... No, not anymore than what any of us 'say' or think make anything 'true'. What GOD says is what's true and that's what we repeat because we repeat what He teaches. You don't have to receive it but I believe you're here by design and not by accident. And every single post that was made to try to show me anything different never really supported that idea. I think you're interpreting what you want to interpret perhaps because you want to validate what you already believe regardless of what anyone says maybe? I don't know.. not trying to be mean or offensive, but could it be possible? There are more than two options - That's what the WORLD would like you to think... as with most things - Other things don't matter.. choosing 'whom' you will serve does. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.- Joshua 24:15and this case, there are at least three from a Christian perspective. Follow God, Follow Satan, or Follow No one. You did mis-understand, it's Follow God, Follow Satan or follow no-one... no one is still Satan. For those who have 'never heard' the Gospel of Christ, that's a different story... but to all who have heard & reject, that's equal to following Satan by default.

Additionally, as is the case in all areas of humanity, there are people who do and say things that are not appropriate. This is true, because we're ALL Human.. even ChristiansIf a person is a true Atheist, he or she really shouldn't bother making fun of God or Jesus, or Buddah, or Zeus, because, in reality, he or she doesn't believe in them. Makes you wonder doesn't it? MOST Atheists don't bother tearing down something they don't believe in. And, as I stated before, most Atheists are fine human beings, doing selfless things for other people, helping charities, volunteering at charity events, and just being good citizens in general. God doesn't 'judge' us based on OUR definition of goodness closetsmkr, but 'His' definition of goodness, and outside of Himself our deeds are as filthy rags. We just can't do 'good' until we get GOD. One has to receive the FREE GIFT of the Salvation of GOD through Christ Jesus in order to be 'good' according to God's standards ...no matter how many 'good deeds' we do on this Earth. OUR 'definition' of what constitutes a 'good' person is not accurate, but God's is

Again, Atheist - NOT the same as Satan Worshiper.
No it's not the same... but their 'end' will be the same...
For some reason however, I don't think anyone will give you 'peace' on this, because you're not seeking peace, you're seeking a validation of what you already believe, and we can't give you that. I wish you peace.
 

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I'm going to make a post because it seems like this thread keeps "going on". People seem to think that God sends people who do good things to hell--like pushing them off a cliff because they didn't do exactly the right thing. Someone (sorry, I don't remember who) said briefly, that we are born into sin. We're not sinners because of the things that we do, but because that's who we are--sinners. If we live in this world, we might convince ourselves that we don't sin, but we do. God saw the world drowning in the sea of its own sin, and became man to be our lifeboat. Jesus is offering His hand to pull us out of our sin. Some people accept the hand that is offered. Others don't. Whether they push the hand away or just ignore it, they will still "drown" in their sin. (Even if they are in denial about their sin, the result will be the same.)

If you spend any time around children, you will see that we are born sinners--not innocent. When was the last time that you noticed any parents who had to teach their children to lie? Or to be selfish? Violent when they didn't get their way?

I'm not saying either that atheists are satanists. There's a big difference as was pointed out before. But Satan is in the sea as well.
 

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This thread is pretty loony. That video was loony. But at the same time it's someone expressing how they were saved by the grace of God in their own words.

Lumiere, you are absolutely right! This fellow is expressing his salvation story, and this fits in directly with who and what we are here. If someone comes in and doesn't like this area, they are welcome to leave. I would no more go into the atheist room and start preaching, than the man in the moon. They have a right to their opinion and so do we.:)
 

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Lumiere, you are absolutely right! This fellow is expressing his salvation story, and this fits in directly with who and what we are here. If someone comes in and doesn't like this area, they are welcome to leave. I would no more go into the atheist room and start preaching, than the man in the moon. They have a right to their opinion and so do we.:)

I feel the same way L. :)
 

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I don't need to believe in something in order to make it true.

In context of the whole Bible (whether I believe it or not), if I am an atheist, and do not believe in Heaven, Hell, God or Satan; then my life and everything that I do glorifies Satan. That is worship. Satan's plan is to cause as many people as possible to not believe in God. Baring that, to cause as many as possible who do believe to not follow Him. The very condition of being an atheist is to worship Satan's ways even if you didn't happen to know that they were his.
 

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I don't need to believe in something in order to make it true.

In context of the whole Bible (whether I believe it or not), if I am an atheist, and do not believe in Heaven, Hell, God or Satan; then my life and everything that I do glorifies Satan. That is worship. Satan's plan is to cause as many people as possible to not believe in God. Baring that, to cause as many as possible who do believe to not follow Him. The very condition of being an atheist is to worship Satan's ways even if you didn't happen to know that they were his.

.... and there you have it!
 

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I don't need to believe in something in order to make it true.

In context of the whole Bible (whether I believe it or not), if I am an atheist, and do not believe in Heaven, Hell, God or Satan; then my life and everything that I do glorifies Satan. That is worship. Satan's plan is to cause as many people as possible to not believe in God. Baring that, to cause as many as possible who do believe to not follow Him. The very condition of being an atheist is to worship Satan's ways even if you didn't happen to know that they were his.

Agreed!


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I agree with ehuman, if you are not covered by the blood of Jesus u are doing the will of Satan, because hence you do not believe in Jesus, and the will of Satan is to cause people to burn with him and not to believe oin Christ. So when you dot profess with you mouth or song songs to Satan, your still doing his will and following him down! God bless al lthe born again believe
 
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