I've never ever heard good answers to those questions. Perhaps this enlightened group can fill in the blanks.
Athiest Converts After Seeing a Demon on His Shoulder!
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I've never ever heard good answers to those questions. Perhaps this enlightened group can fill in the blanks.
All you've said is that I either get it or I don't and if I don't get it I never will and no one can help me get it... That if I believed I'd know and if I didn't believe no one could tel me. It sounds like there's no way for anyone who doesn't already believe to be shown how or what or why to believe. Believe that everyone else are satan worshipers by default? It should be easy to back up such a strong statement and accusation with specific references and exactly where it can from. I look forward to seeing those references and specifics to support the bold statements.
I don't understand or agree with what's been said here and am trying to understand. When I ask for specific or clarification all I get is broad generalizations. Certainly god can do better than that?
Buddhists and indigenous people are by default satan worshipers? Why would god allow that? How do you connect the dots to get that results? Spell it out for me like you would to a child. Show me where gods word says that or how to get from point a to point b to reach that conclusion. Maybe then I can understand it.
Lisa, I must have missed something too. Can you tell me exactly which post(s) I should re-read for the answers?
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Start on page on and start reading, it's all there, it's been hashed over and rehashed as others have come in asking the same exact question that you're asking now. I like your avatar too! LOL!
Start on page on and start reading, it's all there, it's been hashed over and rehashed as others have come in asking the same exact question that you're asking now. I like your avatar too! LOL!
I read the entire thread Lisa. The basic questions were either dodged.. or given a trite response like "there is a loophole".
It clearly appears that you all are saying that if one is never exposed to God and Christianity, then they are a Satan worshiper and are eternally damned... regardless of the quality or quantity of their good deeds and actions on this earth.
Ummmm.. interesting.
I have read the Bible several times. I know what's in it but not WHERE the "proof" you seek is. I am a regular person without a really good memory. I am having a difficult time coming up with words, but here it goes..........All people on this earth will have the opportunity to hear about God and be old enough to understand what they are hearing. So, from what the Bible tells me, children who die in childbirth, or before, or very young children will be exempt from the judgement that all other humans will get. I wish I could state the verses that tell me this, but, as I have said, I do not have a good enough memory. I maybe should not have even intervened but had a great desire to help.
Thanks guys for finding the video again.
I didn't need convincing on anything...just curious.
I do believe there is a realm we cannot ( usually not) see.
I love The Haunted series on Animal Planet b/c I think animals can see the demons.
I know my cat did many years ago ( long story but Priest/Pastor had to drive it out).
I didn't need convincing on anything...just curious.
I do believe there is a realm we cannot ( usually not) see.
I love The Haunted series on Animal Planet b/c I think animals can see the demons.
I know my cat did many years ago ( long story but Priest/Pastor had to drive it out).
That's interesting. I've watched The Huanted as well. It is intriguing. I watch a lot of shows on the supernatural. I live in a 200 year old house next to graveyard just as old. Sometimes my dogs bark while looking towards the graveyard and I wonder if maybe they see something I don't. lol
The questions were not dodged Scott, they were answered to the best of our ability. I'm sorry if that's not satisfactory for you, but I believe the Bible is pretty clear on that.
Oh man, that show freaks me out! My husband loves it, records it so he can watch every episode. I used to like watching it, but it just spooks me out too much..........lol.
I'm sorry.. what exactly did the BIBLE say?? "If one is never exposed to God and Christianity, then they are a Satan worshiper and are eternally damned".. ?
I ask again.. is that what you are saying? Is that what the Bible is saying? (A "yes" or "no" would be nice.. but I'm betting top dollar I'm not going to get one of those...)
Psalm 19:1-6 states, “The heavens are telling of the glory of God; and their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.”
Romans 1:18-21 declares, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.”
Romans 2:14-15 states "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another"
It is understood from the Bible that God has "written his law", the truth, on the "hearts" of men. Nature is also evidence of him. Every person, according to scripture, has at least that much exposure to God. That is why worship of a higher being has been found in every culture at one time or another. But when confronted with the truth in the world around them, do those peoples seek the true God, or a god of their own making? That is the question. Only God is in a position to judge the hearts of men. If someone is earnestly seeking God, God will reveal himself to them in one way or another so that they might be saved. As people respond to the light/information they have been given, more light/information will be provided.
On page 2 of this thread, in post #16 Imrasch provided ample Biblical evidence that those who have information of God, yet reject him, are of Satan. On page 3, post #27, I provided the analogy of marriage. You're an un-married person until such time as you give your life to someone else in a commited relationship. You can be dating, you can shack up with someone.. doesn't matter how much you like the idea of marriage, you are STILL UNmarried until such time as you commit your life to someone else.
God wants you to commit and give your life to him. Satan wants you to remain uncommitted, living your own life.
You remain UNcommitted until such time as you decide to give your life to Christ. If you accept what Christ did for you, then you are doing the will of God. If you reject Christ and continue on your own path, then you do the will of Satan, whether you intentionally "worship" him or not. Doing the will of = worship.
You may not like what has been explained, you may in fact hate what has been explained, but it has been explained.
Romans 1:18-21 declares, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.”
Romans 2:14-15 states "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another"
It is understood from the Bible that God has "written his law", the truth, on the "hearts" of men. Nature is also evidence of him. Every person, according to scripture, has at least that much exposure to God. That is why worship of a higher being has been found in every culture at one time or another. But when confronted with the truth in the world around them, do those peoples seek the true God, or a god of their own making? That is the question. Only God is in a position to judge the hearts of men. If someone is earnestly seeking God, God will reveal himself to them in one way or another so that they might be saved. As people respond to the light/information they have been given, more light/information will be provided.
On page 2 of this thread, in post #16 Imrasch provided ample Biblical evidence that those who have information of God, yet reject him, are of Satan. On page 3, post #27, I provided the analogy of marriage. You're an un-married person until such time as you give your life to someone else in a commited relationship. You can be dating, you can shack up with someone.. doesn't matter how much you like the idea of marriage, you are STILL UNmarried until such time as you commit your life to someone else.
God wants you to commit and give your life to him. Satan wants you to remain uncommitted, living your own life.
You remain UNcommitted until such time as you decide to give your life to Christ. If you accept what Christ did for you, then you are doing the will of God. If you reject Christ and continue on your own path, then you do the will of Satan, whether you intentionally "worship" him or not. Doing the will of = worship.
You may not like what has been explained, you may in fact hate what has been explained, but it has been explained.
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Trust me, I don't hate it in the least. I find it to be hysterically comical, and I love a good comedy.
I am fully aware that this is a forum subsection moderated by those of strong beliefs, and a level of intolerance for dissenting "beliefs". And since that intolerance can (and probably will) lead to the deletion of a strong rebuttal, I'll save my energy so I can apply it places that maximize my entertainment!
You'll have a hard time convincing me of that since everyone has taken the time to respond to you and others of dissenting beliefs multiple times in this thread alone. I'm also not sure what is comical about asking direct questions and receiving equally direct answers multiple times.
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