Atmistique Atomizers
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Definitely a looser draw. But the pin is a lot looser fit than my v2 pin. Not using cotton. I've tried before, but it got an off taste. I will keep trying different things.
With the v2, I find, in any tank, too little wick will lead to flooding. Then again, that goes for pretty much any atty I own - except the Spheroid, where I find too much wick will lead to a 510 connector full of juice.
I am pretty confident, based on my current experience with 2 v2 Divers, and the handful of people whom I have helped reach their sweet spot with the v2, that we can get every Diver singing tunes.
I concur wholeheartedly. But, compared to a lot of other supplier threads, the Diver thread has a relatively tough crowd.
I'm a big fan of the Diver, one would say a champion. But I challenge anyone to find someone who has posted more about the leaky v1 Diver than I have.
I believe what you see in the Diver thread is the reality. If all my back-channel communications about other brands tells me anything, this reality is similar for every other brand. You just don't see it in the relevant threads, not because the manufacturers suppress it, but because customers for some reason don't just come out and complain in public.
I am not a cotton fan..
Here is what my setups for the Diver generally look like (depending on what the Diver is going in)
Billet Box -- 3 ohm coil and a strand of 2.5 mm silica wick
Phiniac on a Hana -- 2.5 ohm coil and a strand of 2.5 mm silica wick
Other tanks on a mechanical -- 1.5 ohm coil and 2 strands of 1.5mm silica
I know most people use the standard 1mm, 2mm and 3mm silica but with the Diver V2 I have found the odd ball sizes work the best..
2 strands of 1.5 mm or 1 strand of 2.5 mm silica works best for me.. YMMV...
Here is what my setups for the Diver generally look like (depending on what the Diver is going in)
Billet Box -- 3 ohm coil and a strand of 2.5 mm silica wick
Phiniac on a Hana -- 2.5 ohm coil and a strand of 2.5 mm silica wick
Other tanks on a mechanical -- 1.5 ohm coil and 2 strands of 1.5mm silica
I know most people use the standard 1mm, 2mm and 3mm silica but with the Diver V2 I have found the odd ball sizes work the best..
2 strands of 1.5 mm or 1 strand of 2.5 mm silica works best for me.. YMMV...
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My roller coaster ride with the V2 in the BB continues..
I am about to waive the white flag and just buy some cartomizers for it..
V1 Pin:
Looser draw, vapes GREAT right after build.. Let it sit for a while and bam, boom, gurgling, flooding et al which leads to the BB getting juice on the inside. So much juice that the tank becomes hard to remove.. Clear flood, wipe out BB and it's back to vaping GREAT! Let it sit for a little and bam, boom, gurgling.. Rinse, lather, rinse and repeat..
V2 Pin:
Tighter draw but a similar awesome vape. Once the juice level gets just above the Diver juice slots it's bam, boom, gurgling, flooding et al... Clear flood, wipe out BB, fill tank and it's back to an awesome vape until the juice level gets to the same spot. Rinse, lather, rinse and repeat..
Next up before I surrender... With the V2 pin and at the 1st sign of gurgling I will verify the juice level is at the spot where gurgling begins. I will fill tank and see if that stops the gurgling / flooding before it gets out of hand..
I love the Diver and I am really diggin' the BB but.........
I am about to waive the white flag and just buy some cartomizers for it..
V1 Pin:
Looser draw, vapes GREAT right after build.. Let it sit for a while and bam, boom, gurgling, flooding et al which leads to the BB getting juice on the inside. So much juice that the tank becomes hard to remove.. Clear flood, wipe out BB and it's back to vaping GREAT! Let it sit for a little and bam, boom, gurgling.. Rinse, lather, rinse and repeat..
V2 Pin:
Tighter draw but a similar awesome vape. Once the juice level gets just above the Diver juice slots it's bam, boom, gurgling, flooding et al... Clear flood, wipe out BB, fill tank and it's back to an awesome vape until the juice level gets to the same spot. Rinse, lather, rinse and repeat..
Next up before I surrender... With the V2 pin and at the 1st sign of gurgling I will verify the juice level is at the spot where gurgling begins. I will fill tank and see if that stops the gurgling / flooding before it gets out of hand..
I love the Diver and I am really diggin' the BB but.........
Do me a favor. Try rebuilding with a bit more wick. If you are using 2.5mm, increase to 3mm or so. Make sure the wick that shows in the slots completely covers the slots, so that you can't see the ceramic or the inside of the Diver when the Diver is assembled.
When I get home later, I'll take pictures of what mine looks like, both the build with v2 opened and what the slots look like when it is closed.
Been there done that should have bought a t-shirt...
The 2.5mm fills the wells just fine and the 3mm causes dry hits..
Yeah, time for me to take a break from ECF.
Good luck, folks!
EDIT: Break is about me, frustrated with the frustration, and a lot of drama that blew up in my face here and in other ECF channels. Sometimes, you have to let the steam pressure subside.
raqball, PM me and we can continue troubleshooting. Same goes for anybody else with whom I am working on BB/Diver issues.
Good luck, folks!
EDIT: Break is about me, frustrated with the frustration, and a lot of drama that blew up in my face here and in other ECF channels. Sometimes, you have to let the steam pressure subside.
raqball, PM me and we can continue troubleshooting. Same goes for anybody else with whom I am working on BB/Diver issues.
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No don't go..... You are the most helpful person here in the thread...
You edited yours, so I am going to edit mine..
Don't let others bring you down man.. You are one of the (if not the) most helpful people in this thread! For every person who acts a fool you have helped out at least 20 others..
I recently had forum drama as well in another area that is overran with a gang mentality.. All that drama started because I asked one of the gang members to stop making 375 rambling and incoherent posts a day.. The other gang members didn't like that, so away we went..
That's NOT going to stop me though as I have a hard head..
All that other stuff aside, DON'T GO!
Stay with us here and keep on doing what you do which is helping other people.. Let the cry babies and the maroooooooons have their say because they are honestly in the minority..
My .02
You edited yours, so I am going to edit mine..
Don't let others bring you down man.. You are one of the (if not the) most helpful people in this thread! For every person who acts a fool you have helped out at least 20 others..
I recently had forum drama as well in another area that is overran with a gang mentality.. All that drama started because I asked one of the gang members to stop making 375 rambling and incoherent posts a day.. The other gang members didn't like that, so away we went..
That's NOT going to stop me though as I have a hard head..
All that other stuff aside, DON'T GO!
Stay with us here and keep on doing what you do which is helping other people.. Let the cry babies and the maroooooooons have their say because they are honestly in the minority..
My .02
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Not leaving, bro! Just a break, a few days. When I'm not feeling positive, I withdraw for a bit is all. Better than drama, trust me.
Take five minutes and get back in here... 
Edited my above post as well since you edited yours
Edited my above post as well since you edited yours
Yep Kat, like RB suggests ~ you are only permitted a 5-minutes break We need cool folks like you hanging in here, please.
We need cool folks like you hanging in here, please.Ok peeps...
Today I shall be back at it with the Diver in the Billet Box..
I am going to try the pre made ready cup that came with my V2..
Should I do the recommended method (cut the bottom strand of silica) or rock both strands of silica?
On another note: The carto I plopped in there last night gurgles as well.. It does not flood and the BB does not accumulate juice but it does gurgle every so often. With the Diver I only get gurgling / flooding when the juice level is just above the Diver slots. With the carto, it gurgles (comes and goes away all by itself) no matter where the juice level is.
Today I shall be back at it with the Diver in the Billet Box..
I am going to try the pre made ready cup that came with my V2..
Should I do the recommended method (cut the bottom strand of silica) or rock both strands of silica?
On another note: The carto I plopped in there last night gurgles as well.. It does not flood and the BB does not accumulate juice but it does gurgle every so often. With the Diver I only get gurgling / flooding when the juice level is just above the Diver slots. With the carto, it gurgles (comes and goes away all by itself) no matter where the juice level is.
The set-up which always gave us the best results was always double locally silica wick 2mm. There are many of other set-up which may, for each of us individually, gives better or worse results. But I would recommend that you start to find your ideal set-up after first try our suggestion.
With wire 0.17mm/wick 2.0mm/2.5Ohm/4V tried again the BB with Diver and did not give us any major problem.
We take care:
* Not over tighten air control
* Fill the tank always by leaving an escape route for air. Along the way, I personally do not watch either, fill without any attention and then leave it upright on a paper towel for one-two minutes to defuse the excess liquid. Another friend also filled without problem by closing the two ends of the Diver
* Does not close the ventilation holes on the BB
Following your suggestions we tried also the V1 pin and didn’t notice any particular difference except that V2 pin was slightly noisier.
As Raq mentioned when the juice level is just above the Diver slots I also take a little gurgling, not flooding (6.5ml gives a lot of pressure). I took off the tank blow a little put it right back and keep vaping. Other option is to vape in a higher voltage than the 4V but I prefer the first option.
I never notice any leakage BUT I notice the Akdare moisture near the 510. I think it’s a small amount of steam which goes around the 510 refrigerate (if it’s the right word) from the cold metal and create this moisture.
Now that in general has to do with the use of silica wicks in relation to their cross section the results obtained are:
* Single 3mm: very good results especially after 2ml of usage
* Double 1.5mm (and in slots): low feeding and dry hits
* Double 1.5mm (only in the coil): bad results
* Until now we never tried 2.5mm. When we find some and test it we will inform you
Also we use micro-coil with 0.28mm wire (8 wraps/3mm / ~ 1.8ohm). Better placing the cotton before putting the coil in the ceramic
PS. Its useless to say that this thread always need helpful people like the Cat
With wire 0.17mm/wick 2.0mm/2.5Ohm/4V tried again the BB with Diver and did not give us any major problem.
We take care:
* Not over tighten air control
* Fill the tank always by leaving an escape route for air. Along the way, I personally do not watch either, fill without any attention and then leave it upright on a paper towel for one-two minutes to defuse the excess liquid. Another friend also filled without problem by closing the two ends of the Diver
* Does not close the ventilation holes on the BB
Following your suggestions we tried also the V1 pin and didn’t notice any particular difference except that V2 pin was slightly noisier.
As Raq mentioned when the juice level is just above the Diver slots I also take a little gurgling, not flooding (6.5ml gives a lot of pressure). I took off the tank blow a little put it right back and keep vaping. Other option is to vape in a higher voltage than the 4V but I prefer the first option.
I never notice any leakage BUT I notice the Akdare moisture near the 510. I think it’s a small amount of steam which goes around the 510 refrigerate (if it’s the right word) from the cold metal and create this moisture.
Now that in general has to do with the use of silica wicks in relation to their cross section the results obtained are:
* Single 3mm: very good results especially after 2ml of usage
* Double 1.5mm (and in slots): low feeding and dry hits
* Double 1.5mm (only in the coil): bad results
* Until now we never tried 2.5mm. When we find some and test it we will inform you
Also we use micro-coil with 0.28mm wire (8 wraps/3mm / ~ 1.8ohm). Better placing the cotton before putting the coil in the ceramic
PS. Its useless to say that this thread always need helpful people like the Cat
ok guys you got me !!!
i am using diver v1 and v2 most of the time in a scuba tank with no problems , but reading all this posts about BB i must have one so i can contribute to your very nice talk you have here.
How i can get a BB?....i see it is out of stock every time i checked.
Kat come back....i really like your thoughts and really like the test and feedback you are giving us.
i am using diver v1 and v2 most of the time in a scuba tank with no problems , but reading all this posts about BB i must have one so i can contribute to your very nice talk you have here.
How i can get a BB?....i see it is out of stock every time i checked.
Kat come back....i really like your thoughts and really like the test and feedback you are giving us.
Update:
Diver V2 with V2 pin in the Billet Box.
I used the included ready cup and did not cut off the lower strands as recommended for tank use. The first few hits were murderous and dry.. Cough, cough, couch --> Water, water, water..
It's progressively getting better and better and now about 2ml later it's vaping great!
I've even passed the normal gurgling point where the juice is just above the Diver slots and no gurgling to be found..
I am not about to call this a success yet but it's rocking' away.
Kat and I had a discussion via PM and I do believe he is 100% correct when he says it's just a matter of getting the right build.. Before I believe I was not filling the juice wells with enough wick..
Diver V2 with V2 pin in the Billet Box.
I used the included ready cup and did not cut off the lower strands as recommended for tank use. The first few hits were murderous and dry.. Cough, cough, couch --> Water, water, water..
It's progressively getting better and better and now about 2ml later it's vaping great!
I've even passed the normal gurgling point where the juice is just above the Diver slots and no gurgling to be found..
I am not about to call this a success yet but it's rocking' away.
Kat and I had a discussion via PM and I do believe he is 100% correct when he says it's just a matter of getting the right build.. Before I believe I was not filling the juice wells with enough wick..
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