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After all, spouting negativity is very unfair to those who have been awaiting this test period, those who have been enjoying it, and those who have criticism for it (because believe me, I sure do).
Judging this device based on build videos and pictures is a foolhardy thing to do, as it has exceeded my expectations in many areas, and has room for improvement in others. But I've only found that through ACTUALLY TESTING IT, and not looking down at it from a high horse.
This isn't a personal attack, but just a reminder that this device is:
A. New. From a mostly original concept, and from a company known for innovative solutions to common problems overlooked by the masses.
B. Still in its testing phase. Granted they've basically said it's already in production, but this testing phase will yield some benefit towards improvements needed.
So please, public forum or not, just remember there's a time and place to speak ill of an item you've never even touched...and having never touched the WAVE, this isn't your time or place.

Well roared Lion.

Adding: This company is well known for their striving for perfection, the reputation of their mods speaks for itself. In my opinion, it is just not fair to trample on a company like this, it sounds - for me at least - like ranting about a third-class clone from China.
 
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We all judge devices without using them first..... thats what youtube reviews are for....

We study devices based on pictures, videos, and discussion forums to see if they fit our needs and desires.

It is not unfair to anyone to give honest thoughts about devices designed for the public market, even when they are negative.

To those who have this device and enjoy it, congratulations.

I for one have learned from the perch of my high horse that I dont need to physically handle a dog turd before i can judge it on its quality.
 

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So been playing around with it some more and whilst the horizontal build has me beat...for now, the vertical build is surprisingly easy though still not a fan of having to wrap a new coil every time I need to change out the cotton.

Does 'surprisingly easy' mean it has the potential to be rebuilt in about the same time as a dry fire & re-wick would take?
 
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Does 'surprisingly easy' mean it has the potential to be rebuilt in about the same time as a dry fire & re-wick would take?

When I said surprisingly easy it was in comparison the the horizontal build, as for your question I honestly don't think so but with repetition comes speed so perhaps with time maybe..... here's a video of someone doing a timed build:

 

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We all judge devices without using them first...that's what YouTube reviews are for...
For some. For many, like myself, it's not really a judgement of the device itself, but rather social reassurance of the process of using a device. If the reviewer looks to be having a hard time with it, perhaps I will too. But if the person is having an easy time with it, I may have the same success. Or maybe their struggles are a challenge set before me. It's all based on who is watching what video made by which reviewer.
We study devices based on pictures, videos, and discussion forums to see if they fit our needs and desires.
This is true as well. But my point remains that judging without experience is ignorant and foolish. I, for one, have suffered from learning this lesson the hard way. I've only recently discovered that I actually DO enjoy a nice salad, whereas my younger self stayed as far away from lettuce as possible, because I didn't like how it looked.
It is not unfair to anyone to give honest thoughts about devices designed for the public market, even when they are negative.
You're right. It's not unfair to share thoughts. But when you enter a specific thread, for a specific device you have not tried, because it's not on the public market yet...well then we find ourselves in special circumstances. The device is in review, by those who agreed to help a reputable company complete their testing phase.
To those who have this device and enjoy it, congratulations.
Thank you. [emoji38]
I for one have learned from the perch of my high horse that I dont need to physically handle a dog turd before i can judge it on its quality.
Well, maybe from all the way up there, you can't see that this particular dog turd is actually a fairly delicious and satisfying candy bar...and while it's ok to have a dislike for picking up dog turds (as a nationally registered championship dog breeder I've picked up plenty), it doesn't bode well to assume every bumpy, brown, rectangular-ish object is a turd.

That's not to say a well liked company with a great reputation, like Atmizoo, isn't capable of pumping out a fresh pile of doo-doo. But remember, some people (like veterinarians) actually make a living doing things like examining dog turds, up close and personal.
 
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And I don't want to leave out my reasons for wanting to like this device...which I'll admit right here:
I MISS CARTO TANKS!
There, I said it. Cartos had the best flavor experience I can remember (outside of drippers), and the convenience/capacity factor was hard to beat.
I will always support any attempts to give birth to a new style of carto...hopefully it's rebuildable, and has great airflow.
My next hope lies within the IN'AX carto...although I'm not too keen on using mesh again.
 

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And I don't want to leave out my reasons for wanting to like this device...which I'll admit right here:
I MISS CARTO TANKS!
There, I said it. Cartos had the best flavor experience I can remember (outside of drippers), and the convenience/capacity factor was hard to beat.
I will always support any attempts to give birth to a new style of carto...hopefully it's rebuildable, and has great airflow.
My next hope lies within the IN'AX carto...although I'm not too keen on using mesh again.

Ah, well there you go. Cartomizers. I understand why you are giving it such a fair chance now. Makes sense to me. Enjoy!
 

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We all judge devices without using them first..... thats what youtube reviews are for....

We study devices based on pictures, videos, and discussion forums to see if they fit our needs and desires.

It is not unfair to anyone to give honest thoughts about devices designed for the public market, even when they are negative.

To those who have this device and enjoy it, congratulations.

I for one have learned from the perch of my high horse that I dont need to physically handle a dog turd before i can judge it on its quality.


This horse is now dead. And so shall we bury it.

Please carry on the discussion of your tangible and empirical experiences only with The Wave and cease with any further personal comments regarding members.

Thank you.
 

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So been playing around with it some more and whilst the horizontal build has me beat...for now, the vertical build is surprisingly easy though still not a fan of having to wrap a new coil every time I need to change out the cotton.

Horizontal build has me beat as well. Once I master it, I'll make another build video for that if people are interested.

Maybe a full on video review as well is in order.


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Horizontal build has me beat as well. Once I master it, I'll make another build video for that if people are interested.

Maybe a full on video review as well is in order.


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I feel like the juice holes and the "needle eye" holes in the crenellations are lined up, when they should actually be perpendicular to each other...
To me, that would make the horizontal build work much better...if I could get the wicking down right.
 
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I went for the horizontal build first and after a couple of attempts find it fairly straight forward, though trickier of course than building a regular atty with screws ;)
My first attempt failed because I didn't tie the wire tightly enough and it lost contact. Second build worked but I didn't pay enough attention to aligning the coil with where the air holes would end up. Third time lucky and it was a really good vape.
I think Atmizoos reasoning for this method should be fairly obvious- there's no room in such a tiny atty for screws and this solution whilst a bit fiddly at first, gets easier with use and is simple and robust- it's growing on me :)
I build it now by wrapping my coil first, then tying one end to the centre post good and tight- checking it is rigid and won't move, then I preinstall my wick, cutting it so it will end above the liquid holes, then insert assembly up into the 510 base and tie off the neg wire good and tight. Keep in mind to orient the centre post so the coil will be parallel to the air holes (pre-mark base so you know where they will be) and be careful not to distort the coil while tying the wire.
 

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I went for the horizontal build first and after a couple of attempts find it fairly straight forward, though trickier of course than building a regular atty with screws ;)
My first attempt failed because I didn't tie the wire tightly enough and it lost contact. Second build worked but I didn't pay enough attention to aligning the coil with where the air holes would end up. Third time lucky and it was a really good vape.
I think Atmizoos reasoning for this method should be fairly obvious- there's no room in such a tiny atty for screws and this solution whilst a bit fiddly at first, gets easier with use and is simple and robust- it's growing on me :)
I build it now by wrapping my coil first, then tying one end to the centre post good and tight- checking it is rigid and won't move, then I preinstall my wick, cutting it so it will end above the liquid holes, then insert assembly up into the 510 base and tie off the neg wire good and tight. Keep in mind to orient the centre post so the coil will be parallel to the air holes (pre-mark base so you know where they will be) and be careful not to distort the coil while tying the wire.
Good ideas!!!
I never thought about pre-installing the wick...I've been having a hell of a time trying to tuck it down past the coil/center post...I'll give this a try tonight!
 

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I went for the horizontal build first and after a couple of attempts find it fairly straight forward, though trickier of course than building a regular atty with screws ;)
My first attempt failed because I didn't tie the wire tightly enough and it lost contact. Second build worked but I didn't pay enough attention to aligning the coil with where the air holes would end up. Third time lucky and it was a really good vape.
I think Atmizoos reasoning for this method should be fairly obvious- there's no room in such a tiny atty for screws and this solution whilst a bit fiddly at first, gets easier with use and is simple and robust- it's growing on me :)
I build it now by wrapping my coil first, then tying one end to the centre post good and tight- checking it is rigid and won't move, then I preinstall my wick, cutting it so it will end above the liquid holes, then insert assembly up into the 510 base and tie off the neg wire good and tight. Keep in mind to orient the centre post so the coil will be parallel to the air holes (pre-mark base so you know where they will be) and be careful not to distort the coil while tying the wire.


Well done!

I will also try out this method tonight. Thanks for sharing!


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I tried your horizontal build method @markse, worked beautifully (the second time)

My only issue seems to be getting the coil securely on the positive post before sliding it though the base.

Anyways, once I got it on there and all set up, the vape was immensely better than the vertical build I had before. Or at least it seemed more familiar. Thanks for the pointers!
 

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Good to hear Hokus. What I've been doing to get a good solid connection on the centre post is to pass the lead through one cross hole, straighten the leg to position the coil, wrap the wire twice round below the cross holes and then once back through the other cross hole to tie it off. Seems to work quite well. I think I prefer it to the vertical build too though I think the vertical is perhaps a bit less fiddly.
 
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