Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[truskme]

Well that is all BS Because I did the same thing . I offered in good faith to ask for a mod instead of doing a CB. The response was "your order was already refunded"

If you guys want to keep letting them feed you this crap, I would say you are WASTING YOUR TIME!

yea but they didnt find out until today that their merchant company closed their account.. that changes everything. once a refund is in progress they cant cancel it so it couldn't be done either way, not because they were BSing you. i told them give me my refund or give me my mod and this is the email i received...

no problem man, no offense taken

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Removing the batteries is a real pain! The battery is super tight on those sleds. Anyone have suggestions on removal? I cant't get enough leverage and grip with my fingers.

Use that battery door.

 

[dwcraig1]

Well, after just 6 days...my cana mod is finished.

Won't read ANY atomizer at all. Nothing. First all that popped up on the screen was the battery gauge. Then after about 20 minutes of that, it went all haywire and started blinking with check atomizer. And now it's done. An effing paperweight. Realllllllly ...... right now.

Is it blinking "check atomizer" only when the fire button is pressed. I have seen this problem on the real Hana's where the screw for the black wire that attaches to the partition of the box. Of coarse removing the cover to check that very well would void whatever warranty there is.

 

[Fergie]

i assumed all the initial orders were paid for up front or with the money received from customers and all the refunds are coming out of there own pockets which is why there trying to get people not to do chargebacks... with an order as big as theirs, at least half the money had to be put down if not all of it up front. im not to worried because i know ill get a mod either way, im just holding out for an orange but like he said he can send me a black, silver or green today if i wanted it. i chose green if an orange is not on the table

OK then, let us know when it arrives if you will

 

[toastedmarshmallow]

Is it blinking "check atomizer" only when the fire button is pressed. I have seen this problem on the real Hana's where the screw for the black wire that attaches to the partition of the box. Of coarse removing the cover to check that very well would void whatever warranty there is.

Yes, only when the button is pressed. I have emailed WetVapes about this issue and CC'd Cloupor on the email as well. Let's see what happens.

 

[Iceclouds]

Too all of you having problems with the clones, could you please type where you got the clone and the manufactorer. (clouper,hotcig,etc..)

I have both, my Cloupor is working great so far, only off about .1 on the ohm reading, otherwise all good. The Hotcig is a different story the ohms read over by as much .3.

 

[s3rca]

ive spent the last couple of hours emailing with illvapes back and forth and this is the important part i think you all as customers deserve to know....


The reason I called you is because it might've been easier to explain over the phone. I called our merchant company today and they closed our account because of the chargebacks that happened. Because of this, some refunds have not gone through and we can no longer issue a refund through our end (for any purchases made between April 16th - May 20th). At this point, the only way to get a refund is to do a chargeback. A chargeback costs $25 on our end and we do not have enough in the account to cover a high number of chargebacks. Unfortunately, we do not have any orange box mods in, but we do have black, green and silver. If you would like any of those colors, I can have it packaged and shipped out today. If you would prefer the refund, I have no choice but to recommend you to do a chargeback, however, this would ultimately end our business. I understand this is a tough decision and will hold nothing against you whatever you choose. If you do choose to do a chargeback, please let me know so we have an idea of how many chargebacks we have against us.

Best,

Illvapes

now with that said, i took the higher road and decided to let them send me my mod instead of doing a chargeback. i will not have a hand in burying a small business no matter how frustrated ive been this entire pre order. i implore you to restrain from doing a chargeback and let them send you your product or take store credit, after a few emails i can see that their actually good guys that unfortunately got the short end of the stick, so please have mercy when making your decision. but i do recommend you email them if your waiting for a refund to find out your options. on a side note, during the emails i was surprised to find out that they have not received any orange box mods yet... assuming they were still receiving shipments like everyone else it caught me off guard. i asked for an orange to be sent, but he told me that they were going to talk to cloupor tonight and get back to me tomorrow if cloupor have them in stock or not, im not expecting anything less then "yes they have them in stock" since they haven't even received any yet and other vendors have already been sending them out to customers. he said shipment from china should get to them in 4-5 days if it were in stock.... there good guys, some really dumb mistakes but over all good guys who are just trying to do the right thing. i say we give them a chance to do it

I emailed them on several occasions regarding the status of my refund and received zero response. I initiated a charge back today and don't feel the least bit guilty about it. Had they responded at all over the last several days perhaps I would feel differently.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Do the clones carry a warranty? If you can't get it replaced, you might as well have at it.

I know Elev8 said 90? Days against manufacturer defect...

 

[wthejudge913]

I want a skin for mine does anyone know where to get one

Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

 

[Fergie]

Strange thing is I had ordered 2 and asked for a refund for both of them. What did they do? They refunded 1, which left me no choice to look after my investment in them, and that was to do a charge back, I just don't believe anything they say at this point. Looks like they're just buying time. No... I hate to see them in this predicament, but their problem will not become mine.

 

[Wicked & Coiled]

Not sure why you guys think Hana went after only one and forgot about the others. Illvapes was the first vendor to start selling the logo version and advertised it as the logo version clone. Of course Hana picked out the easiest vendor to sue out of the bunch

IMHO, Hana went after the company that was easiest to locate and the most ill-prepared (like what I did there?) to defend themselves in court.

Once again I am in total agreement with Hana defending themselves, but I am totally against the way they went about it by Singling Out 1 Company.

We'll probably never know the reason Hana challenged Illvapes and not the others.

Folks need to realize that Hana Modz filed suit not only against "Illvapes", but other "Doe defendants". There is no "singling out" of anyone. This is annotated as "Does 1-10" in the court filing. Essentially a way of filing suit against any number of defendants, many of who have not yet been identified. Thus the accusation of singling one vendor out is moot. This is a suit against ALL COMERS.

It's absolutely mind-boggling that anyone, clone-lover or nay, would attack a business for FINALLY defending THEIR trademark. They created that trademark, that product, or company, and have every right to defend their right to benefit from said trademark's weight with consumers. They have children to feed and clothe, after all.

Trademark theft/counterfeiting is part and parcel of almost every industry to some degree, yet only vaping seems to have this love affair with the crime. Partially softened by the use of the specious moniker "Clone", counterfeits have probably out-sold authentic devices by a factor of 20:1, easily. This doesn't make it right.

No one attacks Coach when they go after counterfeit bag makers, or Gibson when they go after counterfeit Chinese guitar manufacturers. Yet with some misinformed vapers, their shoestring budget, and "need" to portray an ownership of some costly device, outweighs a vital cornerstone of any functional economy. Perhaps we should just throw up some "Golden Arches", sell "McNuggets" under our own banner and tell McD's to go screw? 1:1 Big-Mac Clones for $2. How long before the boards are nailed to the doors and windows?

There is no defense for counterfeiting, nor is there room in capitalist economies to permit their unrestrained existence.

Sorry, not "everyone" can see it. Maybe I'm the only one, but Hana has every right to defend their trademark and their product. As has been pointed out in this thread several times by others, a failure to defend an owner's trademark could possibly lead to loss of their trademark.

I also find it interesting that many here have suggested that the loss of Hana as a company would be no problem, but poor little counterfeiting Illvapes should be protected from big, bad Hana.

Yes.

 

[DeeMcG]

Got my red one from elev8 today!

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[kurtus]

Unscrewed my Nautilus (filled with menthol), and put my Aerotank Mega on it. Clicked the fire button to make sure the ohms were right...thats when the screen went black and all that was showing was the battery icon. About 30 seconds after that it just started blinking with "CHECK ATOMIZER" and it kept doing that for a couple of minutes until I unscrewed the back panel and took out the battery. After I put the battery back in the full screen popped up with watts, battery, ohms etc. Then I tried to screw on every tank system I have and everything keeps reading "CHECK ATOMIZER". I just gave up after a half an hour of fiddling with it.

Just some info. Bought from Wet-Vapes. Color is silver. Battery was a VTC5. Last known ohm reading was 1.6 (nautilus coil). Wattage was set to 10.7

Wondering if the aerotank pushed the 510 positive pin down too far and cause a short which in turn caused the chip to malfunction. Seeing how you pulled the battery after this and the chip appears to be back to functioning as it should aside from the check atomizer you could try to pull the positive post up to ensure it is making good contact but try it with the nautilus. If not that then you would need to inspect the 510 connection points like suggested already

 

[toastedmarshmallow]

Wondering if the aerotank pushed the 510 positive pin down too far and cause a short which in turn caused the chip to malfunction. Seeing how you pulled the battery after this and the chip appears to be back to functioning as it should aside from the check atomizer you could try to pull the positive post up to ensure it is making good contact but try it with the nautilus. If not that then you would need to inspect the 510 connection points like suggested already

I pulled off the stickers and opened the sucker up about a half hour ago. Couldn't see anything of interest...just a ton of wires and hot glue and epoxy (white and yellow). I pulled the 510 pin up a little bit with some ceramic tweezers and tried all of my clearos on it. Still nothing, keeps reading "check atomizer". I'm REALLY bummed out about this. I know its a $80 mod and I shouldnt be...but I was going to purchase my first RDA on Friday and I was SUPER excited to try out my first build on the clone. Oh well, hopefully this will help someone else avoid what just happened to me.

 

[duroSIG556R]

I pulled off the stickers and opened the sucker up about a half hour ago. Couldn't see anything of interest...just a ton of wires and hot glue and epoxy (white and yellow). I pulled the 510 pin up a little bit with some ceramic tweezers and tried all of my clearos on it. Still nothing, keeps reading "check atomizer". I'm REALLY bummed out about this. I know its a $80 mod and I shouldnt be...but I was going to purchase my first RDA on Friday and I was SUPER excited to try out my first build on the clone. Oh well, hopefully this will help someone else avoid what just happened to me.

Sounds like the 510 connection came loose. You could have someone solder in a fat daddy vapes 510 with the hex nut/washer. Or, seek a replacement.

I have been comparing my clone to the real deal and there are a few quirks. It definitely doesn't hit as hard at the same wattages, and goes through battery life quicker. Also, the ohm reader can be off by .1 on sub ohm builds. The 510 connection appears to be slightly more recessed, which could be the reason for the ohm inaccuracies.

Also...the wattage will change on it's own by .2-3....

 

[Taylor]

Well, after just 6 days...my cana mod is finished.

Won't read ANY atomizer at all. Nothing. First all that popped up on the screen was the battery gauge. Then after about 20 minutes of that, it went all haywire and started blinking with check atomizer. And now it's done. An effing paperweight. Realllllllly ...... right now.

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/279a16/possible_cana_modz_design_flaw/

Hope a reddit link is ok.

 

[labowsky]

Unscrewed my Nautilus (filled with menthol), and put my Aerotank Mega on it. Clicked the fire button to make sure the ohms were right...thats when the screen went black and all that was showing was the battery icon. About 30 seconds after that it just started blinking with "CHECK ATOMIZER" and it kept doing that for a couple of minutes until I unscrewed the back panel and took out the battery. After I put the battery back in the full screen popped up with watts, battery, ohms etc. Then I tried to screw on every tank system I have and everything keeps reading "CHECK ATOMIZER". I just gave up after a half an hour of fiddling with it.

Just some info. Bought from Wet-Vapes. Color is silver. Battery was a VTC5. Last known ohm reading was 1.6 (nautilus coil). Wattage was set to 10.7

so elv8 vapes posted this....

"For anyone who has received their Cana Modz and is currently using it, PLEASE DO NOT USE A KANGER AEROTANK. The kanger aerotanks seem to be causing issues with the clones."

 

[CurlyxCracker]

so elv8 vapes posted this....

"For anyone who has received their Cana Modz and is currently using it, PLEASE DO NOT USE A KANGER AEROTANK. The kanger aerotanks seem to be causing issues with the clones."

I wonder what exactly it's doing

 

[CurlyxCracker]

so elv8 vapes posted this....

"For anyone who has received their Cana Modz and is currently using it, PLEASE DO NOT USE A KANGER AEROTANK. The kanger aerotanks seem to be causing issues with the clones."

Seems that the aerotank pin is not compatible with the cana modz 510 pin. It will not fire it

 

[labowsky]

Seems that the aerotank pin is not compatible with the cana modz 510 pin. It will not fire it

i been reading up on reddit that the 510 is fairly bigger on the cana, while the auth and other mods have a smaller pin. this seems like it could cause some problems.