Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

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Look at it this way: Identifying the shortcomings of a product will eventually lead Cloupor to improve it. If they are not pointed out and everybody just stays mum, what incentive would they have to fix the issues in subsequent versions. Retird is doing Cloupor and us users a favor. And obviously not each and every issue is present in every mod either.

Identifying the shortcomings of the product is commendable. And Retird did a very thorough job with his list. Calling a product *Dangerous* and not elaborating, is quite a different story.
 

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Look at it this way: Identifying the shortcomings of a product will eventually lead Cloupor to improve it. If they are not pointed out and everybody just stays mum, what incentive would they have to fix the issues in subsequent versions. Retird is doing Cloupor and us users a favor. And obviously not each and every issue is present in every mod either.

Thanks for that thought... I only presented my test results and information readily available here and elsewhere.

Agree with Iceclouds and others here. It is a strange conclusion and leaving his suppositions unexplained and apparently silencing himself is doing no benefit to the forum or this thread.:confused:

No rudeness or antagonism intended by me as well.

Fully aware that all or none may agree and that's fine... I look forward to seeing facts that may cause me to rethink my conclusions. Will be happy to stand corrected after seeing the facts. Just explain to me (with facts) where my information needs to be corrected and I will graciously accomodate after verifying the information. So, if you would't mind please pass your facts to me so I can review them.
 

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Look at it this way: Identifying the shortcomings of a product will eventually lead Cloupor to improve it. If they are not pointed out and everybody just stays mum, what incentive would they have to fix the issues in subsequent versions. Retird is doing Cloupor and us users a favor. And obviously not each and every issue is present in every mod either.

Retird isnt the only one doing Cloupor and us a "favor" all he did was gather a list of all the issues with the mod that MANY people have been reporting since day one & that's the point of this forum. The credit goes to all the people, they will speak and Cloupor will listen. All companies do this, the smart ones anyways..
 

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Hey Iceclouds can you do a closeup of the 510 connector. Looks like little to no glue and the buttons too,how are they attached?

Hi Mega, I can take a picture later tonight and post it, but yes can definitely tell you, there is NO glue on the buttons or the 510 connector, the 510 connector is I think is called "pressed" (sorry not sure of the term) as are the buttons. Here is a couple of pictures that I have and maybe those will help.

My new DNA 30 32 2.jpgHotcig 510 connections.jpg
 

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Retird isnt the only one doing Cloupor and us a "favor" all he did was gather a list of all the issues with the mod that MANY people have been reporting since day one & that's the point of this forum. The credit goes to all the people, they will speak and Cloupor will listen. All companies do this, the smart ones anyways..

Agree.....pass the info to Cloupor....just e-mail your vendor and inform them of your concerns...
 

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Is there anybody in here still waiting on their Illvapes shipment? I was told my order would ship out shortly, two weeks ago. My order was for a black non-logo.

I'm still waiting on my refund from illvapes, been 20days now. Its in my banks hands now.

Also I just canceled and asked for a refund from elev8 for my 4 cana modz, so a lot of you should get yours a little earlier.
Going to order from FT instead.
 

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I have been doing more testing if the clone. IMO it is slightly under powered in comparison to my vaporshark DNA 30. I willing be testing this on a scope when it comes in. If my opinions are true my VS dna30 will be torn down and the chips will be swapped. The wife loves the VS but thinks the DNA is to powerful for her. Either way happy wife, happy life. It'll be good to get her off that old ego Batt anyway.

Say, if your are still around this thread...... did you ever get the scope.....
 

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I'm still waiting on my refund from illvapes, been 20days now. Its in my banks hands now.

Also I just canceled and asked for a refund from elev8 for my 4 cana modz, so a lot of you should get yours a little earlier.
Going to order from FT instead.

I'd be careful with the fastech clones, as they're not the cloupar ones. The clones from a to z vapor, and the fastech are hotcig clones. Many have been reported to fail. A quick way to identify is the line on the drip well.

Looks like vapor joes pimped the cloupars from 101 last night and they went quick. I'd keep an eye on 101 vapes. Luckily, I was able to snatch up a green.
 

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I'd be careful with the fastech clones, as they're not the cloupar ones. The clones from a to z vapor, and the fastech are hotcig clones. Many have been reported to fail. A quick way to identify is the line on the drip well.

Looks like vapor joes pimped the cloupars from 101 last night and they went quick. I'd keep an eye on 101 vapes. Luckily, I was able to snatch up a green.

That's why I'm ordering from FT. I have the dna20 from there, been using it for a week, great device. I guess I just don't like the finishes I have seen on the cloupars, I sold the one I had because of the terrible swirl marks around the fire button, but that's just me.
 

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I made no personal attack, I asked for clarification regarding a claim he made in big, bolded, and underlined letters. Retird claimed these devices are POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. I want to know HOW.

Considering this is a claim regarding the safety of a device that is in the hands of dozens of members here, I believe it is absolutely justified to ask for specific evidence of this claim. If true, it puts our forum members at risk. If not true, it could cause some forum members to loose money as they dump the devices they believe to be unsafe based on his claims.



I have in the past made my own claims that I believe the Innokin SVD is potentially unsafe, but I fully explained my position based on how the wires are spliced together and even included pictures of the specific parts I had a problem with. I expect nothing less from someone else making similar claims.
 
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And here i was, 2 weeks in, thoroughly enjoying my cloupor clone from 101, so much so i haven't even picked up my mechs/touched another mod in that time.

Little did i know i was vaping a ticking time bomb that's obviously more deadly than Cyanide and cost me the equivalent of a whopping 10 packs of cigarettes.

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I made no personal attack, I asked for clarification regarding a claim he made in big, bolded, and underlined letters. Retird claimed these devices are POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. I want to know HOW.

Considering this is a claim regarding the safety of a device that is in the hands of dozens of members here, I believe it is absolutely justified to ask for specific evidence of this claim. If true, it puts our forum members at risk. If not true, it could cause some forum members to loose money as they dump the devices they believe to be unsafe based on his claims.

You can really answer your own questions by reading up a bit on what can cause electronics to fail... heat is but one... a device actuating itself without human intervention imo is not a good thing... continual short circuits that may be caused by improper width of the 510 post causes the safety feature to kick in, so, similar to a house circuit breaker each time it trips the breaker degrades and will eventially not function as designed. These are just a few thought and please quote me correctly as you post... my post was " may be dangerous".

Hopefully that helps...now my question to you as there are alot of peep with these up to their mouths..... show me evidence that it is without a doubt safe?
 
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Here's my experience thus far with the hana clone. I have a blue one on order with elev8vape since 5/24. Still waiting on it. My local store got their black ones in on 6/2 so I dropped by and snagged a black one. Vaped on it fine from 6/2 till the evening of 6/4 at which point, it fried itself. I had just popped on my Stillare dripper with a 0.6 ohm build. When I hit the fire button, it immediately said too hot. I unscrewed my atomizier and stuck it on my Sigelei 20w to start vaping on while my dna 30 clone "cooled" off. Just as I was about to take a vape I noticed an electrical burn smell and looked at the clone and there was a wisp of smoke coming from the usb port. I immediately removed the back plate and popped the battery out. The sony vtc4 battery was fine but the clone wasn't. The screen was fried and from what I could see shining a flashlight into the red see through cover on the inside, all the hot glue had melted and flowed around inside. On 6/5, I returned it to the local shop and they exchanged it for me without a problem. So far I have not had any issues out of the second one. Works fine with all my atomizers, including my Kanger Aerotank Mega. In talking about it with the shop owner I got my clone from, they stated mine was the third to come back. But mine was the only one that had fried. One, the screen had a flicker. No firing problems at all, just the screen flickered. The second one went into locked mode and would not come out. If I'm not mistaken, the shop had gotten 20 and out of 20, only three had a problem. Now, before you start going off about how high a failure rate that is (aprox 1 out of 6) let me explain that I used to work for a retail computer electronics store. So I can assure you 1 out of 6 having an issue is actually not that bad. Bet Chevy wishes they had as low a failure rate on their starter switches lol.
 

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You can really answer your own questions by reading up a bit on what can cause electronics to fail... heat is but one... a device actuating itself without human intervention imo is not a good thing... continual short circuits that may be caused by improper width of the 510 post causes the safety feature to kick in, so, similar to a house circuit breaker each time it trips the breaker degrades and will eventially not function as designed. These are just a few thought and please quote me correctly as you post... my post was " may be dangerous".

Heat causes the chip to give a warning and shuts down. That's not dangerous.

A device turning on a display by itself is a problem, but not necessarily dangerous. It's symptomatic of a bad button or bad wire connection to the button.

A short circuit that causes the safety feature to kick in is made safe by said safety feature.

Where is the REAL danger?

And before you try to lecture me on electronics safety, what exactly are your qualifications? I'm a Nissan certified automotive electrician and a Systems Administrator who routinely builds $80,000 servers for a living. What exactly makes you an expert to lecture me?

And please don't tell me that comment was just a personal attack meant to harass me. Not after you got an admin involved.



Hopefully that helps...now my question to you..... show me evidence that it is without a doubt safe?

Water can kill you if you drink too much, but I'm not going to make posts saying WATER IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS!!! like you did.


If you're going to make a claim like that, justify it with specific information, not some hypothetical ramblings. If you can't, admit it was an unjustified claim.
 
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@Completely Average: Please take a time out so things cool down a bit. Admins get involved all the time and I bet most of us have received their warnings (I'm no exception). Retird most certainly would not have called an admin. Anyway, we're all here to learn about each others' opinions and there is no reason get bent out of shape about any particular post.
 
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