Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[herb]

Reading some comparisons between the Clouper and FT clones on FT's site and saw some mention the FT exceeds the 30 watts but who knows if it's credible.


I know a lot of people plan on replacing the board but why should that be necessary is my question , when you pay $70.00+ it should be proven and work without reliability issues .

If Clouper allowed a 6 month return option like FT i would feel a lot more confident about rolling the dice. If it's still kicking without issues by then i'm happy.

 

[Iceclouds]

I guess maybe I have been lucky so far, I have 2 of the Hotcig version dna 32 with the split on top and have not had any issues except for the ohms reading about .2 higher than my Original Evolve dna 30 and as long as I keep at VCT 5 in it. My Cloupor version is working GREAT, have not had any problems with the unit being Locked, the Ohms read almost Identical to my VS dna 30 and I get both a read light and green light(which I can see in a dark room looking straight down the display window)....I'm actually so happy with my unit I just ordered a fourth one from WetVapes in Silver, as per Raj his new batch that came in today has the smaller diameter 510 firing pin. With my newest order of today I have spent a total of 280.00 and I have 4 devices in 4 different colors........it would have cost me that much for one Original _______A DNA 30 (not to mention the aggrevation of waiting months to get it).....Just my

 

[synaptik]

OK, here are probably the least expensive DNA 30 devices unless you build your own. There may be wait time involved for either or both.

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[MrBeo]

Well I am enjoying both my FT clone and my Cloupor clone. I enjoy using my FT clone more tho and feel its a better Build then the Cloupor and that it will last longer too! FT clone was less money $56 over the cloupor at $75 with shipping and the FT I will have better support if I encounter a issue. The $20 savings from one to the other makes the FT version the better buy but both are nice

My SX350 mod will kill them both tho but it cost a bit more $99 so I am calling it a win, win, win for the cost and over all Quality! What ever you get you should be Happy - Ft cloupor or SX350

 

[Completely Average]

That was my point; if I'm gonna drop 120 and possibly still have power cables and ground wires in there that can't handle the load; or, a charging port that may be less than acceptable. I'd rather spend the extra 30 bucks and make sure it's all to spec.

I haven't looked into the high wattage stuff at all yet. In fact, I just got my first mech yesterday. While I'm all about cost effectiveness; I'm also all about longevity and not having to replace pieces and parts over time too. Which is why i spent little more than my comfort level on my regulated mod. Noe I'm exploring the possibility of playing with more power. Yes I want to keep the cost down; but, not to the point that I'm gonna get aggravated with it and be ...... for spending the money, if that makes sense. It's not like throwing a 20 bucks on a clone mech that you don't like.
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No problem, I can totally understand what you want. You want this....

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OK, now we're up to $170, but really, that's what you're wanting. High quality, durable, REAL DNA30, with a decent warranty period. That's about the best you're going to get for a real DNA30 device without DIY.

 

[Completely Average]

I know a lot of people plan on replacing the board but why should that be necessary is my question , when you pay $70.00+ it should be proven and work without reliability issues .

In my experience Chinese VV/VW mods rarely last a year, clone or not. I had two SVDs fail inside of 4 months and they cost about the same. Innokin also has a very short warranty period, so I was just out the money.

So, should it work? Yes, I think for $70 it should. Definitely.

However, the realities are that a LOT of these types of devices fail after a few months. At least with this clone I can replace every part in it myself, unlike the SVD, which means if something in it breaks I don't have to buy a whole new one, which is a plus for me.

 

[synaptik]

In my experience Chinese VV/VW mods rarely last a year, clone or not. I had two SVDs fail inside of 4 months and they cost about the same. Innokin also has a very short warranty period, so I was just out the money.

So, should it work? Yes, I think for $70 it should. Definitely.

However, the realities are that a LOT of these types of devices fail after a few months. At least with this clone I can replace every part in it myself, unlike the SVD, which means if something in it breaks I don't have to buy a whole new one, which is a plus for me.

Purely coincidental that they always seem to fail right after they are no longer warrantied, of course

 

[chief63]

No problem, I can totally understand what you want. You want this....

Vapor Shark DNA Buy Now!

OK, now we're up to $170, but really, that's what you're wanting. High quality, durable, REAL DNA30, with a decent warranty period. That's about the best you're going to get for a real DNA30 device without DIY.

The Vaporshark warranty is only 4 months. Better than none, but kind of short IMO.

 

[Fir3b1rd]

No problem, I can totally understand what you want. You want this....

Vapor Shark DNA Buy Now!

OK, now we're up to $170, but really, that's what you're wanting. High quality, durable, REAL DNA30, with a decent warranty period. That's about the best you're going to get for a real DNA30 device without DIY.

If it's a quality built device I don't mind spending the money.
My fear on the clones (I've never owned one)Is that for 70 bucks, I'm gonna open it up and end up changing all the guts. I have mental block on wasting the money when if I can get the board for 50 and spend 30 for other parts from mcmasters and hopefully just find an empty case. Maybe I can do it from scratch for 70-80 in parts total; now that's worth it.
I need to find someone with one. Every Chinese regulate mod I've seen has had shotty workmanship on the ground; and general solder points especially. And I would rather drop 170 -200 on good workmanship that'll last than throw away 120 on shotty work that'll turn into a paperweight
The reason I got my current mod was I knew the workmanship and that the unit would have it pay for itself in the long run.

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[Completely Average]

The Vaporshark warranty is only 4 months. Better than none, but kind of short IMO.

I don't think I've ever seen a warranty beyond a year, and you're going to have to spend $250+ to get that.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

In my experience Chinese VV/VW mods rarely last a year, clone or not. I had two SVDs fail inside of 4 months and they cost about the same. Innokin also has a very short warranty period, so I was just out the money.

So, should it work? Yes, I think for $70 it should. Definitely.

However, the realities are that a LOT of these types of devices fail after a few months. At least with this clone I can replace every part in it myself, unlike the SVD, which means if something in it breaks I don't have to buy a whole new one, which is a plus for me.

Idk about the SVD but the MVP is a solid device. I haven't been vaping a year but I've had the MVP a good six months, was my daily vape, still going strong. I know plenty of MVP owners who have them for a year +. It sucks when a device fails but there's the opportunity with failure no matter who makes the device... I know people with Vamos still going about a year later. Imo, you'll want a new device before one fails MOST of the time. I've also seen some fail within weeks though. All that said elev8 has offered the best warranty against manufacturer failure I know of, 60 days.... Wetvapes is only 7 days. So you're more at the mercy of the vendor than the manufacturer with the Cloupor Clone

 

[Completely Average]

If it's a quality built device I don't mind spending the money.
My fear on the clones- I've never owned one. Is that for 70 bucks gonna open it up and end up changing all the guts. I have mental block in wasting the money when if I can get the board for 50 and the other parts from mcmasters and hopefully just find an empty case. Maybe I can do
It for a 70-80 in parts total; now that's worth it.

If you're willing to build your own there are box kits which can make it cheaper.

http://jcmsvapes.com/DIY-Mod-Supplies/DNA-DIY-Mod-Board

http://www.madvapes.com/diy-parts.html

I need to find someone with one. Every Chinese regulate mod I've seem has had shotty workmanship on the ground and general solder points especially. And I would rather drop 170 -200 on good workmanship that'll last than 120 on shotty.
The reason I got my current mod was I knew the workmanship would have it pay for itself in only needing the one and not having to replace it 6 months later like the mods that came before it. I
Could have bought 2 of these things for what I spent on less quality work. Hope that makes sense

I totally understand your point. There are definitely things I buy that I'm willing to spend a LOT more on for their quality. (I've got $500 brake pads on my car). You've got to do what you feel is best for you. If that means spending more for peace of mind, spend more.



In my case I'm looking at $70 or so to build a DNA30 from the ground up or just pay $70 for a working clone, knowing if the clone breaks then all I have to replace is a $45 chip. Unlike you I work as a network admin and occasionally do custom car stereo installation for some extra spending money so I've already got all of the tools, wires, solder, and other things I need to rebuild it. For me it's no extra cost outside of the chip and the time it would take would be minimal.

I'm willing to buy the clone and use it as long as it lasts. If that's 1 month then fine. If it lasts a year then it's exceeded all my expectations. But even in a worst-case scenario I would only be saving about $45 by building my own from the start vs buying the clone and then rebuilding it. In my case I'm willing to take the risk because the loss is minimal and if I do rebuild it I know I'll end up with a mod that's just as good as anything else out there.

 

[BlueSnake]

I don't think I've ever seen a warranty beyond a year, and you're going to have to spend $250+ to get that.

Protovapor XPV $214.99 with one year warranty.

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[BlueSnake]

In my experience Chinese VV/VW mods rarely last a year, clone or not. I had two SVDs fail inside of 4 months and they cost about the same. Innokin also has a very short warranty period, so I was just out the money.

So, should it work? Yes, I think for $70 it should. Definitely.

However, the realities are that a LOT of these types of devices fail after a few months. At least with this clone I can replace every part in it myself, unlike the SVD, which means if something in it breaks I don't have to buy a whole new one, which is a plus for me.

I've had at least 20 Chinese made mods and only had one real cheapie crap out. The rest still work great. But then again I take care of stuff and am not hard on anything.

 

[Completely Average]

Idk about the SVD but the MVP is a solid device. I haven't been vaping a year but I've had the MVP a good six months, was my daily vape, still going strong. I know plenty of MVP owners who have them for a year +. It sucks when a device fails but there's the opportunity with failure no matter who makes the device... I know people with Vamos still going about a year later. Imo, you'll want a new device before one fails MOST of the time. I've also seen some fail within weeks though.

I've always got my mech mod as a backup. And a Halo Triton VV as backup to that.

The MVPs seem extremely solid and reliable, and I've recommended them many times. The SVD though, is definitely a problem product for Innokin....

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=innokin+svd+failure+broken

 

[Completely Average]

I've had at least 20 Chinese made mods and only had one real cheapie crap out. The rest still work great. But then again I take care of stuff and am not hard on anything.

Do you think that perhaps the reason you don't have many failures is because with 20+ mods you've never actually used on long enough for it to fail? My wife's SVD failed after 3 and a half months of using it exclusively. That's almost 4 months solid of 4ml per day of use.


And there is a specific reason why it's so easy for the SVD to fail. The wires to the battery and 510 connector are spliced together, not single wires. And the splicing is done by twisting the wires together and then holding it with a 3mm wide piece of tape. No solder, no crimping, no connectors, just twisted and taped. Let the adhesive on the tape age and lose it's tackiness and then give the mod a decent shock and the wires disconnect.

 

[BlueSnake]

Do you think that perhaps the reason you don't have many failures is because with 20+ mods you've never actually used on long enough for it to fail? My wife's SVD failed after 3 and a half months of using it exclusively. That's almost 4 months solid of 4ml per day of use.


And there is a specific reason why it's so easy for the SVD to fail. The wires to the battery and 510 connector are spliced together, not single wires. And the splicing is done by twisting the wires together and then holding it with a 3mm wide piece of tape. No solder, no crimping, no connectors, just twisted and taped. Let the adhesive on the tape age and lose it's tackiness and then give the mod a decent shock and the wires disconnect.

I thought those looked like crap when they came out. I didn't buy one. I used some of my mods steady for over a year. My wife has used the same 4 cheap mods for about 1 1/2 years with no problems. She uses all of them daily loaded with different flavors. Neither one of us vape one flavor exclusively.

 

[Fergie]

Guess I'll need that soldering iron. I accidentally pulled the positive wire off the fire switch. If it ain't broke don't fix it. LOL

All better now.

 

[Fergie]

I thought those looked like crap when they came out. I didn't buy one. I used some of my mods steady for over a year. My wife has used the same 4 cheap mods for about 1 1/2 years with no problems. She uses all of them daily loaded with different flavors. Neither one of us vape one flavor exclusively.

Mine is still working fine, but hey I'm easy with my stuffssss

 

[pharzus090]

Haha ok I stepped in the wrong thread apparently.
I'm a 37 year old former body mechanic who just graduated with a degree in electrical engineering.
I have the skills and ability. I was competing I'm robotics competitions the last two years that I was in school.
I've also been out of work for the last three years; because when I got hit by the truck that put me in the wheelchair I was unable to continue working as a body mechanic; hence, the education.

The disability check doesn't exactly give me the money to go out and drop a ton of money on mods every month. So, before I spend the same amount upgrading a clone I want to make sure hay doing so makes the most sense from the long term financial aspect.
A ground that may not be able to Handle the load will kill the 50 dollar board. Then I'm left with a 120 dollar paperweight or I'm spending another 50 bucks; because I've voided a warranty zone I'm spending 170 when I could have spent the 150.

I guess I just don't think right...
Sweet Baby Jesus forgive me for asking questions before I spend money.... I forgot ECF was NOT the place to go to learn about vaping; it's, only for those who know everything.


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lol. the premise of this thread prior to your post jas been specifics of these mods, and rebuilding real dna's in them. If you had posted this. (your background, and mose specifics about what you are trying to do) in your initial post... I think the responses whould have been better for you

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