Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!

[blueGrassTubb]

What exactly do you believe is DANGEROUS about these clones?


That's a very strong accusation to make when nothing you listed as being a problem is dangerous. The worst you've listed is that some components on the board may be covered with glue which would cause them to overheat faster, but that's not dangerous. Where is the risk to life and health?

And even that is no more than a theoretical concern which may or may not apply.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

It is factually unimpeachable and everybody is free to draw their own conclusions. I don't see any problem with that.

Uh . . .

It seems like you need to look up the meaning of unimpeachable. There is plenty to qualm with in these so-called "facts."

 

[blueGrassTubb]

Well...since you're here...don't you have an extra MCM laying around? I think the charitable thing to do would be to sell it to me...

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I don't know if Kat has an MCM, but I do know she has an EPM. But I don't see her giving that one up.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

I average 300 "puffs" a day, so that extra click has cost me approximately 30 seconds a day, (.3 sec at 100 clicks), so in a year I will waste about 3 hours a year with these extra clicks to wake up! Crazy!! (Can you tell I am bored!!)

That's if you wait until you get the mod to your mouth before you click. If you click it en route to your mouth or as soon as you get it in your hand there's no wasted time at all.

The only confusing aspect of the double click is its arbitrariness. It doesn't happen all of the time. I've simply learned to double click every time I pick it up, and it's now a complete non-issue.

 

[retird]

Understand what you are saying.... vaping has inherent danger and we just need to understand, as best we can, what those dangers are and how to prevent bad things from happening. That's all.... anytime you have a battery, electronics, a coil, and etc. there is a possibility that things can happened. I believe we all just need to be educated about them.

That's a mostly fair analysis on the whole.

That said, some of these issues are also found on authentic hanas. The swirl marks, crooked 510 atomizers (which seem far more prevalent in hanas than they do on the clones), poor screws, and poor threads (all aluminum threads are poor by nature of aluminum being so soft). All of these are issues with the original as well. The only difference in that regard is that you won't have the privilege of paying an extra $180 for those flaws if you buy a clone.

And many of these issues don't seem to be happening with any sense of frequency to be a legitimate gripe for the product as a whole. I've not read a single instance of buttons falling out (except for on the test unit). Boards falling out or shifting don't seem to be a widespread problem either. It seems like a lot of conjecture based on very few real instances, if not simply based on theoretical concerns rather than real-life experiences.

I haven't noticed a dearth of "Too Hot" messages on the clone as you have, and certainly no more than on an authentic dna. In fact, I haven't had any on my clone. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen to some, but it seems like you're purposefully overblowing the issue (and many others) to fit your conclusion. Lots of this stuff needs verifiable substantiation (notes on exactly how many times it happens and under what circumstances) rather than how you feel about it.

Judging clones with NO LOGO and no trace of HANA on them whatsoever along with those that do have said materials isn't quite fair. They are different products (even if the only substantive difference is the inclusion of the trademarked logos/names). To address them as the same product is an attempt at tarnishing one thing for the fault of another thing. How can you judge a no logo clone because another product made by the same manufacturer does have logos? It's purposeful dishonesty.

From the information provided my "analysis" was the tests I conducted and the rest of the post let me just highlight how I started that part of the post.... Issues and/or comments reported either here or elsewhere:

If you feel that is purposefully dishonest then I accept that as your opinion and respectfully disagree as that information was compiled from posts in this thread by many others, myself and from blogs, facebook, and etc.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

From the information provided my "analysis" was the tests I conducted and the rest of the post let me just highlight how I started that part of the post.... Issues and/or comments reported either here or elsewhere:

If you feel that is purposefully dishonest then I accept that as your opinion and respectfully disagree as that information was compiled from posts in this thread by many others, myself and from blogs, facebook, and etc.

The "purposeful dishonesty" part was specifically referencing conflating two separate products as one. They may be the exact same hardware, but they are separate products. One has a logo, one does not. To call out the logo-less clone because there is also a logo-ed clone isn't playing straight.

 

[Yotdawglife]

The whole thing about this being a first run and reliability was my main reason to order another American regulated device ( BCModz ) because I don't want to have this as my only reg device. There is a lot of room for improvement, if the company marketed these as another product, not a clone, with added improvements from the user base of problems, and imagine the product they could produce. With all this said I am still terribly happy with my device, for 70 dollars it was a stellar investment with A- Performance.

 

[retird]

The "purposeful dishonesty" part was specifically referencing conflating two separate products as one. They may be the exact same hardware, but they are separate products. One has a logo, one does not. To call out the logo-less clone because there is also a logo-ed clone isn't playing straight.

I guess this is what you are referencing...

. Logo devices and those that display Hana Modzs on the display seem to violate USA trademark laws. Some vendors have gone underground and China is still sending them and vendors are still selling them then that is dishonest.

Or maybe you are referencing my decision not to recommend the clone..... since I won't be recommending the logo device and I won't be recommending the non-logo either then that is dishonest....

 

[lot17ss]

Any orange orders from elev8? I am really surprised at the lack of post about people getting their mods compared to the amount they sey thay are shipping accorfing to the spread sheet.

 

[mgmrick]

Come on ecf.... The mod is not to his liking we get that.

Now he is being disruptive to what end... getting this thread closed

 

[lot17ss]

Beating a dead horse! Its getting old guys. Really.

 

[retird]

Come on ecf.... The mod is not to his liking we get that.

Now he is being disruptive to what end... getting this thread closed

I am trying to discuss his concern with him... He posted and I merely answering to his comments... I do not see it as disruptive....but you are correct.... all this has been covered....

 

[armadillo]

But this is precisely why this thread is so informative. There is simply no "objective" verdict on these clones. Obviously, neither the original nor the clones are perfect. Each have their own sets of issues. This thread simply compiles them and then some folks will say that the price offsets the deficits of the clone, while others may feel differently and wait until the quirks have been fixed. I belong to the latter group. At this point, I don't think I could put up with the double-click issue and the spontaneous activation is the second fatal flaw for me, so I'll wait (I'm pretty sure those will get fixed). But I have absolutely no problem if others here don't consider those big deals.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

But this is precisely why this thread is so informative. There is simply no "objective" verdict on these clones. Obviously, neither the original nor the clones are perfect. Each have their own sets of issues. This thread simply compiles them and then some folks will say that the price offsets the deficits of the clone, while others may feel differently and wait until the quirks have been fixed. I belong to the latter group. At this point, I don't think I could put up with the double-click issue and the spontaneous activation is the second fatal flaw for me, so I'll wait (I'm pretty sure those will get fixed). But I have absolutely no problem if others here don't consider those big deals.

I don't know exactly what to think about the spontaneous "activation" (I'm not sure that activation is the right word - the screen turns on for a minute then turns back off). I've seen it a couple of times (though I suspect it happens more often than what I've seen).

It isn't firing. Mine doesn't change wattage without my input. The screen simply turns on as if to say "Vape me!" then after a minute it turns off.

I have a feeling that the sleep functions in the code are sloppily written, and that this is a byproduct of that (as well as the double click arbitrariness). I don't see it as a problem or a flaw, but a quirk. It would obviously be better if it didn't do it, but it's not any kind of deal breaker.

 

[CurlyxCracker]

What it comes down to in the end....
Can you deal with the quirks? MOST of us who purchased this KNOWING it wouldn't be perfect. I for one am happy it turned out as good as it did.
Final conclusion of if it's worth it..
$70 and quirks?
Or
$250 and other quirks?
For a device that is specifically how YOU like it, build it....

 

[armadillo]

Sloppy code is precisely the issue. I just don't trust the electronics and the software for now. What if it actually develops more serious sloppiness and actually does fire? I'm just not going to risk it. I'm not saying it will happen, but saving a couple of bucks is not worth it for me. As I said, this will likely get rectified and we will hear about it in this thread. That's just me.

 

[Taylor]

Elev8 order #2254 black has been shipped.

 

[Katdarling]

I don't know if Kat has an MCM, but I do know she has an EPM. But I don't see her giving that one up.

She does. She does. You see the lite. NevAH!

 

[blueGrassTubb]

Sloppy code is precisely the issue. I just don't trust the electronics and the software for now. What if it actually develops more serious sloppiness and actually does fire? I'm just not going to risk it. I'm not saying it will happen, but saving a couple of bucks is not worth it for me. As I said, this will likely get rectified and we will hear about it in this thread. That's just me.

If it doesn't fire now, it won't spontaneously develop the flaw of firing spontaneously later. That's not how code works.

 

[retird]

She does. She does. You see the lite. NevAH!

Dang.... Kat... isn't this your night out or did I get the wrong day....