Havent been on here in a few days... what did I miss? More lawsuits?
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Attack of the Hana Modz Clone. Let's wait together!
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Nm. Just saw court doc for VT. I wonder where this is going.
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3 things.
1It will provide a consistant vape throughout the battery life.
2 charging via usb
3 aesthetics like you said. I like the feel of a box vs tube and it is very portable
Edit: also it probably won't hit quite as hard as a copper mech, but you can get some comparable reaults.
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Actually old sticky rosin is preferable to SG... Super glue can destroy some ribbon materials.
All the rest of the points were quite good... I'm an ex 2M (miniature / micro miniature) tech so I thought I would help a little...
carry on...
I may be wrong, but I believe you have to test both the volts and resistance of the +/- screw heads, then run the appropriate calculations.
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True a tiny dab of silicone would be preferable too..
GJ buddha... forgot to mention that...
Emphasis on "If ever" I totally gave up on them
The email mentioned was from May 29th. On the 31st they started shipping and several have posted in this thread that they received their clone from IllVapes; and they continue to receive and ship what they receive, just like all the rest of the companies.
From a previous post
That 10A limit will also start to limit the capabilities of the clone vs a mech at lower sub-ohm builds.
That's what I thought. Still done with them, they haven't refunded me for one of my clones.
I was okay with them attacking vendors that were selling the branded clones since brand is very important. It really wasn't until they started suing what seemed to be just anyone they can sue.
This is part of the problem I have with it now. If you're suing to protect your brand, that's totally acceptable. However, all they've done since the release of their DNA30 mod is damage their brand. Releasing defective units, taking pre-orders they can't fill and then taking a bunch of units to a con and selling them there even with unfilled orders, and now these lawsuits against sites which carried unbranded clones will tarnish their name.
Things like these are why I said in a previous post that I wonder what their business model actually is. If you're taking money for pre-order units and then selling those units at a con, that's highly unethical at the very least. It's also something that will be fairly noticed. I don't think too many people who are avid vapers don't know about that. If you shell out $250 to be put in line for getting something, and that something is fabricated and goes to someone else who pays $250 somewhere else, you'd be upset and rightly so. That gives their brand a pretty big hit right there.
Then there's the quality control thing you mentioned. People are paying $250 to wait for a product and that product is faulty. It's hard to argue against getting a "lower quality" clone when the legit ones that are priced three times as much are also pretty low quality. It's even worse when you stack that up against the having to wait longer for the product because they sold an available unit to someone else even though you'd already paid for it.
Then there's the supply issues. They're slow to make them. So, you get bumped on the list because your product went to some other buyer. Your product may or may not work correctly when you get it. Now you're waiting a really long time because they don't come close to meeting the initial demand for them.
Even though they're completely right with these lawsuits. I'm done with Hana. For the first time since I first began getting into mechs and didn't know any better, I'm happy to own a clone. I can't believe I just said that, or that I actually don't feel bad owning and thoroughly enjoying a clone. I'll buy a several more regulated mods to compliment my army of GP mechs and Provaris, and not one of them will be a Hana Modz.
I'm not arguing with you on their right to sue, but it's not exactly stacking up in their favor right now. When they first released their mod, it was the ZNA30, the Vapor Shark, and their mod. However, now their mod has been cloned because it's the most simple one to clone. On top of that, KSD has a DNA30 mod out for $70 or so. Tobeco has one out for $60. The Chana is around $70(and yeah, the Hana Modz DNA30 is pretty simple). It's one thing when you've got very little competition. It's another when you've fouled everything else up at this point and start suing everyone you can.
It honestly wouldn't shock me if they closed their doors and took whatever money they might get from the lawsuits because their business model is horrible and their brand name is trashed. The suits don't do anything for their brand name except drag it through the mud some more.
As far as mechanicals and clones go, clone makers offer things now that the legit ones don't. Anyone out there not own a copper nemesis? There's copper versions of a lot of mods that there are no legit copper version that exist. I own several clones, like the Chi Hammer(which I mostly use as a paper weight), the copper nemesis, and the copper hades. Clone makers in China are also starting to release their own mods, which is fine. It's kind of hard to justify waiting on something, paying five times as much, and it may not come in the material you want.
LOL And a good morning to youNite Fergie.....
Me too.....
Halfway through my first coffee and a vape of course.And the beat goes on
Morning coffee and a vape.........
Unusually read the daily newspaper with my morning coffee but this morning read the court filing....hum.....
Oh well.... I'm sure there will be interesting posts here going forward...... have a great day ALL..... back to the newspaper now....
Unusually read the daily newspaper with my morning coffee but this morning read the court filing....hum.....
Oh well.... I'm sure there will be interesting posts here going forward...... have a great day ALL..... back to the newspaper now....
Morning coffee here too. I'm waiting on order #33xx from arlind@elev8 for one orange unit for $71 shipped. I liked the original orange, but not the color cloupor has now settled on. I figure I'll get my unit in one or two weeks.
I have the choice of going with raj@wetvapes for $82 shipped. He expects to ship next week, and can get me any color I want.
Finally, I can order straight from cindy@cloupor for $644 for ten units shipped. I could keep three and eBay off the rest. They are quoting 7-14 day lead.
Decisions, decisions.
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I have the choice of going with raj@wetvapes for $82 shipped. He expects to ship next week, and can get me any color I want.
Finally, I can order straight from cindy@cloupor for $644 for ten units shipped. I could keep three and eBay off the rest. They are quoting 7-14 day lead.
Decisions, decisions.
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