Attack of the (Kayfun Mini V3) Clones!

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ccwaters

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Does it have more airflow than the kfl+? That's too restricted for me these days

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Easily, my 316L version
is about equal to my KF4 with 4S kit, maybe slightly less, substancially more then a lite+ I did remove my AFC screw completely.



No, it is at least that restricted (kfl+) about the same. I wish they made a kit to open up the center airflow on this.

Interesting, Mine is no where near that restricted opened up, yes it will shut down that tight, but also opens a fair bit more. I'm also lung hit only, and find the Mini 3 an acceptable restricted lung hit when AFC is removed.

I do prefer a more open air flow, and have quite a few of the latest rda/RTA



Literally hundreds of orders out of China my preference
fasttech orders 200+
3F Orders 100+
Focal orders 70+
Gearbest 25+

Ships next day 24 hours speed
3F 100%
FT 99%
Focal never had one ship next day fastest 5 days average 10 days
Gearbest never had one ship next day fastest = 3 days average 12 days

Customer Service
FT typically answers tickets within a day, they do have a VIP system, once you are in it is as little as 8 hours
Agents go from very good to very bad.
# of issues 10 varying from broken items to missing items, favorable resolution 100%

3F typical time for response 24 hours, unless they choose to ignore you, then it can be weeks.
Agents OK until they ignore you.
#of issues 3, favorably resolved 1 33%

Focal Doris is a great person to deal with and normally resolves issues favorably. However shipping time is typically minimum of 10 days so not my first choice.

Gearbest: Customer service up to 1 month, typical 5-10 days They do not provide replacement parts typically offer a discount for damaged/missing items
#of issues 23 of 25 orders. I stay away unless cannot order elsewhere.

Of all these vendors fasttech is the only one that has resolved all my issues 100%

Focal I still have one outstanding issue
3F screwed me, Gearbest the same.


If you order close to CNY EXPECT problems/delays, just a fact of life. This year CNY seems to have caused a bit more delays then usual. FT/3F still recovering.

You cannot blame vendors for supply problems, you can blame them for not being up front and letting customers know of the issues.
 

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Wow. That pretty much sums it up.

I only had one problem (wrong item sent) with FT. They asked for a pic which I provided and that was it. They sent me the correct item right away.

Besides delaying orders (which is understandable after NY in China), never had an issue with them.

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Easily, my 316L version
is about equal to my KF4 with 4S kit, maybe slightly less, substancially more then a lite+ I did remove my AFC screw completely.





Interesting, Mine is no where near that restricted opened up, yes it will shut down that tight, but also opens a fair bit more. I'm also lung hit only, and find the Mini 3 an acceptable restricted lung hit when AFC is removed.

I do prefer a more open air flow, and have quite a few of the latest RDA/RTA



Literally hundreds of orders out of China my preference
Fasttech orders 200+
3F Orders 100+
Focal orders 70+
Gearbest 25+

Ships next day 24 hours speed
3F 100%
FT 99%
Focal never had one ship next day fastest 5 days average 10 days
Gearbest never had one ship next day fastest = 3 days average 12 days

Customer Service
FT typically answers tickets within a day, they do have a VIP system, once you are in it is as little as 8 hours
Agents go from very good to very bad.
# of issues 10 varying from broken items to missing items, favorable resolution 100%

3F typical time for response 24 hours, unless they choose to ignore you, then it can be weeks.
Agents OK until they ignore you.
#of issues 3, favorably resolved 1 33%

Focal Doris is a great person to deal with and normally resolves issues favorably. However shipping time is typically minimum of 10 days so not my first choice.

Gearbest: Customer service up to 1 month, typical 5-10 days They do not provide replacement parts typically offer a discount for damaged/missing items
#of issues 23 of 25 orders. I stay away unless cannot order elsewhere.

Of all these vendors Fasttech is the only one that has resolved all my issues 100%

Focal I still have one outstanding issue
3F screwed me, Gearbest the same.


If you order close to CNY EXPECT problems/delays, just a fact of life. This year CNY seems to have caused a bit more delays then usual. FT/3F still recovering.

You cannot blame vendors for supply problems, you can blame them for not being up front and letting customers know of the issues.
This is one of the best posts I've read on ECF. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
 
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Ya'lls opinion on Out of the KFL+ v2 or V3.1 ES .. or others...which is better? and is going to compare to the KFM3 + build set-up?
lower wattage +/- 10..MTL only.
Thanks
Both are pretty old and newer designs are better all around. The v3.1 needs needle nose bottles to fill and it's slow and sloppy. The KFL+ has slightly better filling but you need to take it off your mod to fill. Every time. KF4 is better and top filling makes it easy but if you use TP, it's not very stable unless you make a few mods. Lung hitters think it's too tight, MTL'ers think it's too airy.

I can't recommend the v3.1. If you go with a KFL+, EHPro makes the best version if it's still available. I like the KF4 but not enough to buy an authentic because there is a fundamental design flaw with the center pin. It's worth it at less than $20 but not $180. The KM3 should be what you're looking for but it does have a small tank. Shouldn't be too much of a problem with easy top filling.
 
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Easily, my 316L version
is about equal to my KF4 with 4S kit, maybe slightly less, substancially more then a lite+ I did remove my AFC screw completely.


Interesting, Mine is no where near that restricted opened up, yes it will shut down that tight, but also opens a fair bit more. I'm also lung hit only, and find the Mini 3 an acceptable restricted lung hit when AFC is removed.
CC, you are right, I found a restriction due to my wick getting out of place...since resolving that it is much more open on the air flow. It is a MTL or restricted lung hit...as you said. Not bad for that type of vape.
 

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Easily, my 316L version
is about equal to my KF4 with 4S kit, maybe slightly less, substancially more then a lite+ I did remove my AFC screw completely.





Interesting, Mine is no where near that restricted opened up, yes it will shut down that tight, but also opens a fair bit more. I'm also lung hit only, and find the Mini 3 an acceptable restricted lung hit when AFC is removed.

I do prefer a more open air flow, and have quite a few of the latest RDA/RTA



Literally hundreds of orders out of China my preference
Fasttech orders 200+
3F Orders 100+
Focal orders 70+
Gearbest 25+

Ships next day 24 hours speed
3F 100%
FT 99%
Focal never had one ship next day fastest 5 days average 10 days
Gearbest never had one ship next day fastest = 3 days average 12 days

Customer Service
FT typically answers tickets within a day, they do have a VIP system, once you are in it is as little as 8 hours
Agents go from very good to very bad.
# of issues 10 varying from broken items to missing items, favorable resolution 100%

3F typical time for response 24 hours, unless they choose to ignore you, then it can be weeks.
Agents OK until they ignore you.
#of issues 3, favorably resolved 1 33%

Focal Doris is a great person to deal with and normally resolves issues favorably. However shipping time is typically minimum of 10 days so not my first choice.

Gearbest: Customer service up to 1 month, typical 5-10 days They do not provide replacement parts typically offer a discount for damaged/missing items
#of issues 23 of 25 orders. I stay away unless cannot order elsewhere.

Of all these vendors Fasttech is the only one that has resolved all my issues 100%

Focal I still have one outstanding issue
3F screwed me, Gearbest the same.


If you order close to CNY EXPECT problems/delays, just a fact of life. This year CNY seems to have caused a bit more delays then usual. FT/3F still recovering.

You cannot blame vendors for supply problems, you can blame them for not being up front and letting customers know of the issues.
I bought 2 tanks from Focal and both were useless with stripped screw holes on both bases. Doris was not helpful at all. She got involved and disappeared. Had to get refund with PayPal.

Bought the same 2 from GearBest and all was good except one of the tanks was cracked and they did nothing to help. Again had PayPal to the rescue.

Fasttech has been slow to ship the last year or so. Before that they were 10-12 days delivered on everything. Now just some slow for help for broken parts and taking almost a month to ship an item that I was told it had shipped last month.

No problems with 3F yet.

It will be different for everyone and at different times but it's just hit or miss with all stores I guess.
 

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Well, I'm looking at mine and the first thing I notice is that the drip tip appears to be 1-2mm shorter on the clone than on the auth. Can anybody confirm?

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Not sure if the supplied drip tip is shorter...but I suggest you try those black Teflon drip tips I sent with the Manta. I like that combo a lot with the KF Mini v3. Actually I like those drip tips better with everything.

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ccwaters, you getting one? I think I'll wait for some reviews first on this one. Looks really nice tho. Kind of ...... I didn't wait.

More then likely I will, don't really mind the smaller size so I'll probably wait for a bit see what else the Chinese comes up with for the OG.
 

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Finished cleaning the mini v3.

Now I remember why I'm not fond of buying attys... The OCD makes me strip, inspect, scrub, clean, inspect, clean again every single bit, at least twice. :(

Atty was pretty clean but I could smell a faint hint of machine oil. Nothing dishwasher detergent, isopropyl alcohol and hydrogen peroxide wouldn't solve.

Anyway, next step: coiling. :)

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