Attack on UK vapers by TW

[arry]

OH !
Is that it just put my feet up got me Jaffa Cakes out and a Cup of Rosie lea !

 

[asha23]

..... Redact - alize .....

 

[Waspy]

I think it's someone who "falls in line" with the accepted paradigm... I've been trying to decode the meaning behind what he's banging on about and I think what he's trying to say is that we are all blind sheep, doing as we are told by the accepted reality-tunnel we are fed by the media, politicians and others in positions of power...

IE. We are told something. We listen. We believe. We act.

In sequence.

What the hell that actually has to do with anything in the context of en E-Cigarette vendor going hatstand on a forum I have yet to decipher.

Essentially it's a bunch of sub-par, re-hashed conspiracy bunk, probably intertwined with Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus trilogy and put through a filter of plagiarised Noam Chomsky half-truths. Misread and misunderstood and unfortunately rendered without the necessary articulation and common grammar to make the points clear. So it all comes out as disjointed and fractured.

An eloquent reply sir.

 

[CommaHolly]

The reality is that most of us could care less about vendor squabbles, and quite frankly they don't need to be washing their laundry on a public forum.

I owned a business for many years, and quite honestly, I would have fired me for a thread like this on a public forum!
There really are reasons that cooperations settle disputes with nondisclosure agreements.

I completely agree with you,,,,but if you WERE to take it public, it stands to reason you'd at least explain why you feel you've been jilted or whatever. You don't just go screaming at people.

 

[vereybowring]

I think it's someone who "falls in line" with the accepted paradigm... I've been trying to decode the meaning behind what he's banging on about and I think what he's trying to say is that we are all blind sheep, doing as we are told by the accepted reality-tunnel we are fed by the media, politicians and others in positions of power...

IE. We are told something. We listen. We believe. We act.

In sequence.

What the hell that actually has to do with anything in the context of en E-Cigarette vendor going hatstand on a forum I have yet to decipher.

Essentially it's a bunch of sub-par, re-hashed conspiracy bunk, probably intertwined with Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus trilogy and put through a filter of plagiarised Noam Chomsky half-truths. Misread and misunderstood and unfortunately rendered without the necessary articulation and common grammar to make the points clear. So it all comes out as disjointed and fractured.

I completely understood first time what was meant, however since I believe in free radical thought I did not want to engage in that way with those comments.
This is a basic misunderstanding, as far as I see it.
Believing what you have read without having an original thought about it, or indeed reading the whole subject rather than just one perspective of it.
Another case of Pot, Kettle, Black occurring in glorious almost incoherent rants.

Not you asha23, the rehasher of dodgy knowledge is who I mean in the last sentence there.

 

[dragonbone]

I'm in the mood for a nice cuppa with scones and cream .

 

[WCSR]

He's welcome to the publicity... I don't read his posts any more... He's essentially doing a Charlie Sheen. Didn't work out too bad for him.

I don't care about his company, his opinion or anything else particularly. He's nobody to me at the end of the day.

I'm just rather concerned as a fellow human being that somehow it's going to be bad for him spiritually. You don't go into meltdown mode like this without being in some form of personal anguish or other.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And it's actually really upsetting to see someone unravelling in public like this.

As I said on the other thread. He should maybe turn off his computer for a day or two. Have a good introspective look at how his negativity is actually affecting innocent bystanders of e-cig communities. Karmically it's not going to end well for him at all.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Very sad.

There's a difference between this guy and Charlie Sheen, though. Charlie is an entertainment star in America. In America, our reality-tv-watching sheeple welcome useless people to throw tantrums and tirades. See the Kardashians, Tom Cruise, or any of the d-bags on any reality show we have here.


The person who is the subject of the criticism on this particular thread, however, is a business owner. A business owner whom is attempting to burn his own customers at the stake. A business owner who seems to forget that the customers in which he's burning at the stake, are the same customers that butter his proverbial bread. Customers don't take to kindly to such antics.

 

[asha23]

I completely agree with you,,,,but if you WERE to take it public, it stands to reason you'd at least explain why you feel you've been jilted or whatever. You don't just go screaming at people.

It's what people who have trouble articulating and expressing themselves effectively tend to do though.

 

[grego66]

Talk about a wind-up.


I can't believe I read through 25 pages of that vitriol, misinformation and downright lies on the other thread. Here I was angrily ready to write my response and then the thread gets closed, so anyway.....






....It's McVities Chocolate Digestives that are the Daddy.

 

[Cinnamonkey]

Call me crazy (no really.....I am! ), but don't we, as vapers, have enough drama and crap to deal with from people who are against vaping? I mean, seriously.... there are groups and government "leaders", etc. ad infinitum that we have to write, email, call, and prove why vaping is really a GOOD thing? We have jackbags all over the flippin world trying to put an end to vaping and tell us it's bad. We defend our right to vape and here at ECF, and other vape forums, we are supposed to be coming together and standing united and HELPING people!!! Isn't that what it's supposed to really be about?

In the end, from what I have read so far, there is greed, and middle school pissing contests abound, which shows that even on this great forum there are people out there that seriously need a grip on reality and remember just why the heck they are really here. Otherwise they may as well cast their lot with the very ones that would love to oppress vaping in general. I'm sure quite a few "anti-vapers" would laugh their butts off and do their best to add this to their fuel to their own fires and "agenda".

Hello...is this thing on? Get back to basics. Are you here because you appreciate vaping and what it's done for you?

Stop the madness......nuff said.

Respectfully,

Cinnamonkey

 

[asha23]

There's a difference between this guy and Charlie Sheen, though. Charlie is an entertainment star in America. In America, our reality-tv-watching sheeple welcome useless people to throw tantrums and tirades. See the Kardashians, Tom Cruise, or any of the d-bags on any reality show we have here.


The person who is the subject of the criticism on this particular thread, however, is a business owner. A business owner whom is attempting to burn his own customers at the stake. A business owner who seems to forget that the customers in which he's burning at the stake, are the same customers that butter his proverbial bread. Customers don't take to kindly to such antics.

I agree. It's a rather obtuse way of doing business.

 

[vereybowring]

There's a difference between this guy and Charlie Sheen, though. Charlie is an entertainment star in America. In America, our reality-tv-watching sheeple welcome useless people to throw tantrums and tirades. See the Kardashians, Tom Cruise, or any of the d-bags on any reality show we have here.


The person who is the subject of the criticism on this particular thread, however, is a business owner. A business owner whom is attempting to burn his own customers at the stake. A business owner who seems to forget that the customers in which he's burning at the stake, are the same customers that butter his proverbial bread. Customers don't take to kindly to such antics.

Also at least Charlie Sheen is entertaining in a much more intriguing way.

 

[dragonbone]

Why is everyone so surprised. He has behaved like this all along (from the beginning) on TW's Facebook Page, YouTube and on the English forum. He doesn't accept critisism of any kind. The end.

 

[CommaHolly]

It's what people who have trouble articulating and expressing themselves effectively tend to do though.

true, but I think this is the worst example of it that I've ever seen.

 

[asha23]

Call me crazy (no really.....I am! ), but don't we, as vapers, have enough drama and crap to deal with from people who are against vaping? I mean, seriously.... there are groups and government "leaders", etc. ad infinitum that we have to write, email, call, and prove why vaping is really a GOOD thing? We have jackbags all over the flippin world trying to put an end to vaping and tell us it's bad. We defend our right to vape and here at ECF, and other vape forums, we are supposed to be coming together and standing united and HELPING people!!! Isn't that what it's supposed to really be about?

In the end, from what I have read so far, there is greed, and middle school pissing contests abound, which shows that even on this great forum there are people out there that seriously need a grip on reality and remember just why the heck they are really here. Otherwise they may as well cast their lot with the very ones that would love to oppress vaping in general. I'm sure quite a few "anti-vapers" would laugh their butts off and do their best to add this to their fuel to their own fires and "agenda".

Hello...is this thing on? Get back to basics. Are you here because you appreciate vaping and what it's done for you?

Stop the madness......nuff said.

Respectfully,

Cinnamonkey

Fair play.

 

[inter_ceptor00]

I would be curious as to why UKV did decide to shut down over what we assume is just a matter of opinion...

 

[johnpencraig]

In Britain, we call them Daily Mail readers

Or even Guardian/Independent readers, BBC viewers - The left can be Sheeple too!

 

[micksmith1968]

that would only be possible if we were ants or bees

 

[yuttynutt]

It got shut down before I could read it what happened I liked UK vapers

 

[micksmith1968]

An eloquent reply sir.

yeh he spat his dummy out