automatic cut off?

[Charlz]

I have an kr808 with a 20 second cutoff time. At least that what i've been told. I'm never able to hit it. It's the 10 dollar starter one from mad vapes. carto was crap though but who cares. I own 3 pv styles. the echo is my number one, my kr8s (cig style) come next and my ego last. I would have gotten a Riva but supplier issues made me cancel the order (this was pre ECF). Sometimes I'd rather go with my kr8s because my 1100 mah just won't do when I'm doing something physical.

There is nothing wrong with cig-style PVs. Unless you don't like it and that's up to the user

 

[Adam the Aussie]

I'll never bag the 808's. They give great vapor, flavour and throat hit and I highly recommend them as a great introduction to vaping. The problem with most people on this site is they assume every noob who comes here wants to be a vaper for life. The noobs are often getting advice from people who are 100% committed to vaping and have no intention of ever quitting. Who knows, maybe a couple of months with an 808 may be enough to get them off smokes and vaping full-time, which surely should be what we're encouraging? I know I don't want to vape forever, i don't think the majority of noobs who come here looking for advice want to either.

 

[ChrispyCritter]

My XL 510 autos have a 14 sec cutoff..5 secs seems way too short the coil is just getting warmed up after a second or so...

 

[Charlz]

You shouldn't go lower than 2.5ohms on a slim ecig, it's recommended to use batteries rated 650mah or over for low resistance heating elements.

Volts, ohms and wattage all come into play. You can actually run an atty/carto as low as 1.8ohms on a standard 3.7v. (i/e a typical 808) although for a little less time on slim e cigs.

2.0ohm 901 atomizers really do a good job on 808s without go so far as burning all the flavor. Really it's all about making the battery run too hot and thus.....a cutoff switch. The only thing that can hurt these batteries now becomes a faulty cutoff switch and that will cause the battery to become too hot even if you chain vape at 2.5.

the reason I bring this up is not to contradict you but to add to the value of your comments. I can find 808 threaded stuff from 2.0 to 3.2 meaning I can vape at any watts the 510 can with my 808s. (hv units excluded...for now) Especially now that I have my echo which is everything I love about the auto KR8s in higher mah form!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

I'll never bag the 808's. They give great vapor, flavour and throat hit and I highly recommend them as a great introduction to vaping. The problem with most people on this site is they assume every noob who comes here wants to be a vaper for life. The noobs are often getting advice from people who are 100% committed to vaping and have no intention of ever quitting. Who knows, maybe a couple of months with an 808 may be enough to get them off smokes and vaping full-time, which surely should be what we're encouraging? I know I don't want to vape forever, i don't think the majority of noobs who come here looking for advice want to either.

Adam, you pretty well nailed my thinking on this. I think the first REAL question for me was, "Why do I want to try this? I enjoy smoking, have been for nearly half a century, and absolutely deplore Anti-nicotine nazis! So what's the point?" For me, the point was part curiosity, part half-hoping I could save a little money, part being able to 'smoke' (vape) around children, and so on. I had no specific intention of giving up tobacco, and the truth is I still don't. I ENJOY vaping more all the time though, and I'm finding less pleasure from cigarettes all the time as well. To me, what it's all about is FREEDOM. If I approach it from any other direction it just won't work for me because that's just the way I'm made. As it is, my tobacco consumption has dropped from about 30 a day to maybe 5, and if any of the "anti-stinky nazis" have a problem with that they're no better than any other breed of nazis, as far as I can tell.

Just a thought from my cave....

 

[Nashy08]

That's a bunch of bigoted BS about looking like you are a "druggy". Get a clue. I am in and out of court houses every week. I use and show my variable wattage Darwin to more shrieffs and police than any other single group. Have also passed out more educational cards on vaping to this group and helped a number of them transition to vaping. They neither have the time nor inclination to bother with someone vaping and the vast majority are well aware of vaping and know it has nothing to do with drugs.

And instead of hiding or pretending to smoke like you, I and many of us vape openly with our modified PV's and use it as an opportunity to educate the uninformed. And we receive far more positive feedback when we don't look or act like we are smoking or hiding something.

I don't get the bigoted BS part, but that's your opinion. I don't personally own an analog style e-cig, and I do vape discretely in public, I'm not ashamed of that. Not all of us like to take informing the public as our personal duty, I'm just happy to not be smoking for a year and grateful for e-cigs. Don't take me as attacking you personally, because that's not my intent and I'm definitely not into personal attacks as this has turned in to. I'm merely saying I disagree with you. I'm not all for the elitist vapour club thing and I respect others personal choices. I vape discretely because I don't want the hassle of explaining to police like some vaping friends have had to do. I'm only 21 so police would assume I'm up to no good over an older vaper. I'm not in to e-cigs to be an evangelist, I'm just trying to stay off analogs and improve my health. However, if someone does ask along the way and if they seem genuinely interested in quitting I'll probably give them some tips and point them to this forum. Hope you can understand my personal reasons even if we do not agree. I don't think this is getting anywhere and it's starting to seem more aggressive so I'll just leave it a this. Happy vaping!

 

[Skennard]

That's a bunch of bigoted BS about looking like you are a "druggy". Get a clue. I am in and out of court houses every week. I use and show my variable wattage Darwin to more shrieffs and police than any other single group. Have also passed out more educational cards on vaping to this group and helped a number of them transition to vaping. They neither have the time nor inclination to bother with someone vaping and the vast majority are well aware of vaping and know it has nothing to do with drugs.

And instead of hiding or pretending to smoke like you, I and many of us vape openly with our modified PV's and use it as an opportunity to educate the uninformed. And we receive far more positive feedback when we don't look or act like we are smoking or hiding something.

I think your missing the fact that there is a BIG difference between the US and the UK. I think it's great that you are able to openly go into court houses with your mods. Here in the US you can also own and carry a lock blade knife (not in a court house)in the UK not so much. If you had your darwin confiscated upon entering the court house or hassled by the police walking down the street while holding a tube mod you may have a different outlook on leftfeilds point of view. I'm just sayin...

 

[Charlz]

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Although I've seen here at ECF many that plan on vaping for the rest of their lives it's not so with myself. Started @ 36 mg 3+ months ago and am now on 20 mg- will lower down to 15 mg soon. I vape 10 mg in the evening. My plan is to eventually not smoke or vape but as to when I have no idea and will not pressure myself. My original plan was to be vape free by Spring but after further research I know that's far too soon. The key motivator in changing my game plan was when I read a piece on researchers stating it takes 6- 12 months to deprogram the brain from analogs. So at this point I'm looking at approximately 1 year of vaping nic before going to non nic. Believe me when I say there are many vapers here that don't plan on vaping for an eternity and we look at vaping as a means to an end.
Cheers.

I'll never bag the 808's. They give great vapor, flavour and throat hit and I highly recommend them as a great introduction to vaping. The problem with most people on this site is they assume every noob who comes here wants to be a vaper for life. The noobs are often getting advice from people who are 100% committed to vaping and have no intention of ever quitting. Who knows, maybe a couple of months with an 808 may be enough to get them off smokes and vaping full-time, which surely should be what we're encouraging? I know I don't want to vape forever, i don't think the majority of noobs who come here looking for advice want to either.

 

[Charlz]

this is all right and good, but I've never seen a worse hijack of the OP ever. Hopefully he doesn't think too negatively of us.

 

[wv2win]

I don't get the bigoted BS part, but that's your opinion. I don't personally own an analog style e-cig, and I do vape discretely in public, I'm not ashamed of that. Not all of us like to take informing the public as our personal duty, I'm just happy to not be smoking for a year and grateful for e-cigs. Don't take me as attacking you personally, because that's not my intent and I'm definitely not into personal attacks as this has turned in to. I'm merely saying I disagree with you. I'm not all for the elitist vapour club thing and I respect others personal choices. I vape discretely because I don't want the hassle of explaining to police like some vaping friends have had to do. I'm only 21 so police would assume I'm up to no good over an older vaper. I'm not in to e-cigs to be an evangelist, I'm just trying to stay off analogs and improve my health. However, if someone does ask along the way and if they seem genuinely interested in quitting I'll probably give them some tips and point them to this forum. Hope you can understand my personal reasons even if we do not agree. I don't think this is getting anywhere and it's starting to seem more aggressive so I'll just leave it a this. Happy vaping!

You obviously have the right to hide your vaping. And everyone is different. But like a number of so-called "rights", your right to vape is significantly threatened. Being young, you probably don't care if they ban vaping. But if we who vape do not take a stand, openly for our right to vape, who will?? Here is just two of many threads on this subject:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...at-senators-urge-fda-ban-flavored-cigars.html

If you don't want to "personally" stand up for the right to vape, the least all of us should do is join and financially support CASAA. They are the only group trying to defend our right to vape nationwide and they are all ECF members who volinteer their time and effort.

Is that too much to ask?

 

[dormouse]

re the original topic

I only use batteries from V4L - V4L standard size and manuals for the best hit. Almost all of their batteries have a custom 10-13 second cutoff as stated in their descriptions instead of the usual 5 seconds every other brand of KR8 seems to have.

I have one 5-second cutoff manual battery from SmokelessImage that I now use as my late night and overnight battery. I am not a big dragger but 5 seconds is too short when i want to press 1-2 seconds early so good vapor is waiting - that may leave only 3 seconds to drag (which is plenty for me when the carto is brand new but not enough after a carto has has close to 20ml run through it).

 

[Nashy08]

You obviously have the right to hide your vaping. And everyone is different. But like a number of so-called "rights", your right to vape is significantly threatened. Being young, you probably don't care if they ban vaping. But if we who vape do not take a stand, openly for our right to vape, who will?? Here is just two of many threads on this subject:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-products-eliminate-many-most-companies.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...at-senators-urge-fda-ban-flavored-cigars.html

If you don't want to "personally" stand up for the right to vape, the least all of us should do is join and financially support CASAA. They are the only group trying to defend our right to vape nationwide and they are all ECF members who volinteer their time and effort.

Is that too much to ask?

It's not that I don't stand for it, I just don't go out of my way in public. I've signed many petitions and sent emails to my state reps, helped a hall manager in my job write an appeal to exclude e-cigs in our campus smoking ban (which luckily worked), and I joined CASAA within my first few months of vaping and always check out emails from the group. I haven't had the time to participate in a skype meeting unfortunately.

I'm not against supporting e-cigs, I'm just not a huge activist, though I do understand what you mean in your post.

 

[wv2win]

It's not that I don't stand for it, I just don't go out of my way in public. I've signed many petitions and sent emails to my state reps, helped a hall manager in my job write an appeal to exclude e-cigs in our campus smoking ban (which luckily worked), and I joined CASAA within my first few months of vaping and always check out emails from the group. I haven't had the time to participate in a skype meeting unfortunately.

I'm not against supporting e-cigs, I'm just not a huge activist, though I do understand what you mean in your post.

I'm glad you joined CASAA and support them financially. How about adding their banner to your signature? Might help other new vapers check into it and join.