AW IMR 18350 are these Protected batteries ???

[bnrkwest]

Hi,
I just got the Provari mini, love it. But I am wondering about these AW IMR 18350, are these protected batteries? Just trying to get all my details straight on these batts. Hearing about exploding batts makes me want to know what I am using. Thanks! bnrk

 

[9ball_AJ]

The AW IMR batteries do not have a protection circuit. They are a "safe chemistry" battery and do not need protection. They are regarded as the preferred battery to use due to their extremely high amperage drain rating.

In addition your provari has several safety features to protect you and your mod.

Enjoy your Provari!!

 

[bnrkwest]

The AW IMR batteries do not have a protection circuit. They are a "safe chemistry" battery and do not need protection. They are regarded as the preferred battery to use due to their extremely high amperage drain rating.

In addition your provari has several safety features to protect you and your mod.

Enjoy your Provari!!

Thanks for the response, when you say safe chemistry, what is the difference of the protected batts chemistry and the safe chemistry of AW IMR? Is it listed on the ECF somewhere? I have some chemistry under my belt so want to read up thanks! bnrk

 

[9ball_AJ]

I am on my phone so I can't point you to specific threads, but the IMR is a LiMn not Li-Ion like the AW ICR batts that are protected.

There are some good vids on Youtube of an IMR battery being shorted out. Also visit the battery university website, tons of info there.

 

[bnrkwest]

I am on my phone so I can't point you to specific threads, but the IMR is a LiMn not Li-Ion like the AW ICR batts that are protected.

There are some good vids on Youtube of an IMR battery being shorted out. Also visit the battery university website, tons of info there.

Thanks I will do some homework tomorrow I think I need "batteries 101" since different mods use different batts. So I need to keep up to speed on this. Thanks, bnrk

 

[bnrkwest]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-mods.html

I found this excellent post by Roygate that I think should be a must read for everyone using ecigs and rechargable batteries. Maybe vendors should ask for permission to put a copy of this in with all ecig sales. Most average users do not know this, so I think educating all consumers that buy ecigs need this info. bnrk

 

[thewomenfolk]

I am on my phone so I can't point you to specific threads, but the IMR is a LiMn not Li-Ion like the AW ICR batts that are protected.

There are some good vids on Youtube of an IMR battery being shorted out. Also visit the battery university website, tons of info there.

It sure would make it easier if they didn't call different batteries by the same name. I have the red AW IMR 18350 3.7V 700mAh batteries, but I don't know whether they're Li-Mn or Li-ion.... Are mine 'protected', or are they made with the 'safe chemistry'?

The ecf info on batteries would be good if they could use language that would let us identify our batteries. All this stuff is so confusing anyway. When they talk about AW IMR but don't specify the rest of the name it's hard to know what battery they're talking about.

 

[steliosak]

Are mine 'protected', or are they made with the 'safe chemistry'?

AW IMR's are safe chemistry . The are high drain batteries

 

[thewomenfolk]

AW IMR's are safe chemistry . The are high drain batteries

Thanks for that. Do you know what the difference is between the AW IMR "LiMn" and the "Li-ion"?

 

[Hoosier]

Thanks for that. Do you know what the difference is between the AW IMR "LiMn" and the "Li-ion"?

IMR means Li-Mn. Li-ion is different chemistry. (Since the same charger can be used to charge both types, some people mistakenly refer to IMR as Li-ion.)

 

[thewomenfolk]

IMR means Li-Mn. Li-ion is different chemistry. (Since the same charger can be used to charge both types, some people mistakenly refer to IMR as Li-ion.)

Thanks, Hoosier. That clears up things for me.

Do you happen to know why ProVape wouldn't tell us on the Provari pages what metal is used in the Provari's. (Or am I blind?)

 

[steliosak]

Thanks for that. Do you know what the difference is between the AW IMR "LiMn" and the "Li-ion"?

Well basically all of them are Li-ion

LiMn is a category of Lithium Ion (Li-ion) batteries which uses Manganese instead of Cobalt in the makup of the posistive electrode.

Li-Mn's are safer (emphasis on (er) ) than normal Lithium Ion batteries and so are marketed without safety circuitry.

They can be discharged at far greater rates that other Lithium batteries and in theory if they are shorted or discharged beyond their design limits , the reaction that occurs is of a far lesser magnitude.

This does not mean to say that they are "safe" and you must still take care with some basic rules when using,charging and handling them .

 

[Hoosier]

Do you happen to know what ProVape wouldn't tell us on the Provari pages what metal is used? (Or am I blind?)

The metal? The ProVari is mostly stainless steel.

 

[thewomenfolk]

Thanks again Hoosier. That's great news.

And thanks to you too, steliosak, your info will go into my file.

 

[steliosak]

No problem .
Glad to help.

 

[bnrkwest]

Maybe pics would be best I use protected AW batteries for my GLV 2 SM. They are black and have a bump on the rim top of positive end, i have been told this is the protection part. The AW IMR I have for the Provari mini are red and no bump at the rim top of positive end. That is what made me wonder what type of batt they were because they had no bump on rim. bnrk

 

[bnrkwest]

Well basically all of them are Li-ion

LiMn is a category of Lithium Ion (Li-ion) batteries which uses Manganese instead of Cobalt in the makup of the posistive electrode.

Li-Mn's are safer (emphasis on (er) ) than normal Lithium Ion batteries and so are marketed without safety circuitry.

They can be discharged at far greater rates that other Lithium batteries and in theory if they are shorted or discharged beyond their design limits , the reaction that occurs is of a far lesser magnitude.

This does not mean to say that they are "safe" and you must still take care with some basic rules when using,charging and handling them .

This is exactly what I was looking for, the material inside that makes them different. Something I always do is when I am done vaping I take everything apart, batt out of unit, carto off and store so nothing can get turned on accidentally. I don't leave a PV assembled when not using. A bit of safety can go a long way. I need to get some plastic battery boxes for when traveling tho. bnrk

 

[Str8V8ping]

Maybe pics would be best I use protected AW batteries for my GLV 2 SM. They are black and have a bump on the rim top of positive end, i have been told this is the protection part. The AW IMR I have for the Provari mini are red and no bump at the rim top of positive end. That is what made me wonder what type of batt they were because they had no bump on rim. bnrk

The real AW IMR's (RED) have a bump on top . You may have fakes if they dont. The protection part is not the bump on top . the protection is inside the wrapper and what makes the cell longer then a IMR.

 

[9ball_AJ]

The real AW IMR's (RED) have a bump on top . You may have fakes if they dont. The protection part is not the bump on top . the protection is inside the wrapper and what makes the cell longer then a IMR.

I don't think he meant flat top batteries, but I could be mistaken. If they are flat tops, the could indeed be counterfeit.

 

[bnrkwest]

The real AW IMR's (RED) have a bump on top . You may have fakes if they dont. The protection part is not the bump on top . the protection is inside the wrapper and what makes the cell longer then a IMR.

Do you have a pic? I got these batts from ProVape when I ordered the mini, hmmm. bnrk