BAD experiences with DIY so far.

[dannyv45]

I have not tried 0 nic yet. I am sorta afraid to.
The one drop thing was a typo. I meant 3mg in 30ml. I was compiling sentences and I forgot to edit it. Whoops.

I ordered the pg and vg from bulk apothecary. I don't think they come with nic but I will check.
update* they do not come with nic mixed in.

If your using 3ml's of 100mg NIC in 30ml of pg/vg your making a 10mg/ltr vape. If this is making you light headed then reduce it by half. Use 1.5ml's in 30 ml's of pg/vg. Or take what you've already made and cut it in half by adding 30ml of just pg/vg to accomplish the same thing. This will give you a 5mg vape. See if this still makes you light headed. It sounds like your using to much NIC for your level of tolerance. 10mg/ltr is still considered safe.

As far as NIC hotspots I find that very doubtful especially if the NIC is coming from wizard labs. These retailers mix there solutions very carefully and NIC does not separate from a base and form pockets once it's mixed properly. Of course as a precaution it's a good idea to shake well before using but it's still very doubtful that this is the problem.

As far as you reaking of the flavors your using in your vape. I've never experienced that at the levels your using. It may be that your sense of smell is more heightened then most. Ask others if they can smell it on you. If not and you enjoy the vape at that concentration then leave it alone. If the smell offends your scene of smell try reducing the percentage used.

 

[tazzle]

I love vaping. I love DIY. I think that vaping is very literally saving my life. BUT if anything about it made me lie on the floor with heart palpitations, I would stop immediately. Don't try anything else for the moment. Please go see your doctor right away and get a base level physical checkup before even thinking about continuing. You may be allergic to something, you may be making an error, you may be suffering something that isn't even related.

It's totally fine to get more opinions about any possible missteps in the DIY process, but before you go on with any experimentation, get checked out first. Then, I would definitely not continue with the ingredients you were using without ascertaining with testing that they really are okay. SOMETHING is wrong if this is your physical reaction. Do not pursue this recklessly.

 

[TheTinMan]

Nicotine is miscible in PG and VG. IT WILL NEVER COME OUT OF SOLUTION. A "HotSpot" is virtually impossible.

Please use a mixing calculator and measure/weigh "consistently".
Laboratory accuracy comes with practice. Start by just being consistent in your work flow.

Cheers
I

Nice use of the caps lock button. Was it necessary? The snarkiness of this forum is just total BS.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Nice use of the caps lock button. Was it necessary? The snarkiness of this forum is just total BS.

Excuse me? What's with the attitude? His/her caps were seemingly used for emphasis, perhaps italics would have been better or something but I didn't take it as snarky. But - your comment sure is off-putting. Really?

 

[AzPlumber]

If your using 3ml's of 100mg NIC in 30ml of pg/vg your making a 10mg/ltr vape. 10mg/ltr is still considered safe.

Lets clarify that we are mixing for mg/ml not mg/ltr.

 

[Izan]

Nice use of the caps lock button. Was it necessary? The snarkiness of this forum is just total BS.

Thank you for your feedback.
I often lack tact and more often; am oblivious of my lack of it.

Happy Holidays
I

 

[TheTinMan]

Excuse me? What's with the attitude? His/her caps were seemingly used for emphasis, perhaps italics would have been better or something but I didn't take it as snarky. But - your comment sure is off-putting. Really?

Maybe I'm just having a bad day. Apologies to Izan and to you and to anyone else I offended.

It seems that you read something long enough about shaking your nic and then repeat your experience to another poster and have, what appears to me, as an elitist attitude, it just makes you not want to post anymore. I see it time and time again here.

I'm not saying Izan's post signified elitist but several posters chimed in afterwards and I just felt a little ganged up on and I was just trying to help figure out an issue.

 

[TheTinMan]

I have no idea whether I'm supposed to shake my nic or not.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Maybe I'm just having a bad day. Apologies to Izan and to you and to anyone else I offended.

It seems that you read something long enough about shaking your nic and then repeat your experience to another poster and have, what appears to me, as an elitist attitude, it just makes you not want to post anymore. I see it time and time again here.

I'm not saying Izan's post signified elitist but several posters chimed in afterwards and I just felt a little ganged up on and I was just trying to help figure out an issue.

No worries man. You certaintly did not offend me. I just wasn't sure where you were coming from and the comment seemed off to me, but your response shows me where you were coming from. Sorry you felt that way, I'm sure (and hope) people didn't mean to upset you.

FWIW, I was also under the impression nic should be shaken well. Now I'm also unsure. But I'll always shake it, regardless. I shake everything

 

[Izan]

Cheers,

I shake anything that can be shaken.
I know it does nothing in most cases, but it makes me feel better.
However, I try to avoid mixing more air into my nic base then necessary...so I don't shake nicotine base.

Izan

 

[AzPlumber]

I have no idea whether I'm supposed to shake my nic or not.

It has been stated by several Chemists that once mixed properly nicotine will not separate from VG or PG.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I would contact WL. Tell them of the problems. Ask if it is possible you were sent a higher concentration than the 100mg by mistake?

WL has a test that will tell you what strength the nic is. If you don't trust yourself to conduct it, send it back and have WL sent you a new bottle. And let them know there is something horribly wrong with this bottle.

It sounds like you got a bottle that was meant to be cut down prior to selling it to the public. I personally would not do anything else with it except to send it back.

From your reaction, this isn't something most of us are equipped to deal with. Be sure to put on gloves when repackaging it.(good rule to use gloves anyway)

Let us know what happens.
Good luck.


eta...just read all the other posts.....my bad....should have read them first....
I am in total agreement with poster davep.

 

[DaveP]

Apparently, this has happened before and the details are in the thread below. The jury is out on why and how, but posters are saying that they got a hot bottle of nic. Shaking is recommended, but the supplier says the solution is miscible and doesn't separate.

Nude Nicotine ridiculously strong? • /r/DIY_eJuice

 

[OlderNDirt]

@RottenJeeves

Based on my own past experience, finding one's self on the floor with perceptible heart palpitations after feeling light headed, dizzy, and drowsy is nothing to take lightly. Please get checked out and very soon.

 

[Capt.shay]

Based on my own past experience, finding one's self on the floor with perceptible heart palpitations after feeling light headed, dizzy, and drowsy is nothing to take lightly.

With me it usually meant that I just blew $1000 on hookers and an eight ball.

 

[RottenJeeves]

I appreciate peoples concern for my well being. I assure you I am fine. Its very common to have heart palpitations when having a panic attack. I have had my heart checked out in the past and I am 100 percent healthy folks.

I think for now I am going to put away the DIY stuff and stick with chain vaping the commercial stuff. I have been vaping 12 mg for quite a while from tons and tons of different vendors with no issues.

I did try making a 0 nic batch but while it didnt put me on the floor it made me feel a bit weird. Drowsy is the best way to describe it. Might be reacting to the flavorings as well or might be a placebo thing since I am so focused on how I am feeling.

Thanks guys for the help.

 

[JCinFLA]

My guesses would be 1 of 2 things:

1. You might have mixed in more nic by accident, than you were supposed to.

2. Some of your flavorings you're using may have ethyl alcohol in them. Perosnally, it gives me a horrible pounding headache at the back base of my head almost immediately...if I try vaping a newly made eliquid without evaporating it off first.

 

[RottenJeeves]

My guesses would be 1 of 2 things:

1. You might have mixed in more nic by accident, than you were supposed to.

2. Some of your flavorings you're using may have ethyl alcohol in them. Perosnally, it gives me a horrible pounding headache at the back base of my head almost immediately...if I try vaping a newly made eliquid without evaporating it off first.

You may be right. Not sure if TFA flavorings have ethyl or not.

 

[dannyv45]

Lets clarify that we are mixing for mg/ml not mg/ltr.

My Bad you are correct 10mg/ml. Guess all this commenting on what nicotine strength to buy questions that I've done in the past left me with bad habits

 

[dannyv45]

I have no idea whether I'm supposed to shake my nic or not.

The point that I think is being made is that NIC rarely separates if blended properly from the supplier so the likely hood of getting hot spots is rare. BUT by all means there is no harm in shaking before use. I myself shake my NIC before every use. And I pre-make my base in 500ml batches and shake that before every use as well. So it's OK to shake it.