Ban The Pods!

[DPLongo22]

Seeing it already... little plastic pods, in parking lots and the park, the new cigarette .... of the new Age.

Vapors used to be the good guys... the ones who didn't leave their nasty cigarette butts all over the ground.

How's about they just penalize people when they find someone discarding something that shouldn't be discarded in that manner? I believe our existing Littering laws cover most of it, at the very least.

See that? It wouldn't even require a single page of new legislation!!!

Occam's Razor.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Should we ban jerks?

Best not ban me, I won't go quietly.

 

[United States]

The big picture here is the nicotine.

I think folks, even government officials are glossing over is the addictive thing in the delivery system. The knee jerk reaction is that kids are getting hooked on nicotine through vaping and prefer candy flavors.

Hell, most of us adults do too, so why would kids who vape be any different? Am I in support of these draconian measures? Certainly not. But understanding the problems that led up to this whole thing needs to happen in order to achieve a solution we can all live with.

Yes, there will be taxes levied. Yes there will be limits installed. The unfortunate reality is that there will always be stupid people doing stupid things and politicians who make hay from sociatal shortcomings.

vaping is a fad for some, a scurge in the eyes of some and a great benefit to a lot of people. Old school thinking is that the addictive nature of nicotine leads to a lot of revenue in government coffers. It's why the tobacco industry still has clout. Banning pods is not likely to happen. Refillable type may be another matter. The trick will be find sources from states that allow that alternative juice in them. THC is our enemy right now, but may end up being our allie later if refillable nicotine pods are removed from availability.

The big question is how long we can acquire nicotine in the free and open market place.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Pods are the paper-plates, or cig-butts of the new-vape-world.

Not green. At all. Particularly the single-use variety.

Environmentally, a disaster. Just consider the chemicals and energy needed to produce them, and the environmental impact. Not only the trash.

But that won't fix the problem, because the problem is control of the nic market.

Don't worry about it, we have anywhere between eighteen months and twelve years and then is will be all over anyway.

 

[PatVapes]

Op has the right to be heard, and we have the right to disagree.

Litter is not going to stop if pods are banned. Every week I pick up glass and plastic bottles from my yard, plastic grocery bags, Skoal cans, candy and snack wrappers. Some people are jerks. And some jerks vape.

You couldn’t have said it any better. Sometimes we forget too easily that a specific characteristic can’t be attributed to a specific group of people.

 

[CMD-Ky]

If we are to believe the FDA and politicians (which I don't), everyone needs to find out WHY the kids are vaping, and figure out how to at least limit the sources. I don't believe for a second that its because they like the flavors, they like the high nic buzz they get from "Juuling". Places like Ebay and Amazon sell ecigs without age checking. Every kid knows an adult that will sell ecigs, alcohol, pot, or other drugs to them so even stiffer penalties for these crimes need to be enforced. Maybe offer some immunity for having kids giving up their sources.

I haven't heard a "find the root cause" argument for a while. I like it. I want all regulation of e-cigs, liquids and devices halted until we find the root cause of whatever and eradicate it. This will guarantee freedom for at least a millennium.

 

[CMD-Ky]

How's about they just penalize people when they find someone discarding something that shouldn't be discarded in that manner? I believe our existing Littering laws cover most of it, at the very least.

See that? It wouldn't even require a single page of new legislation!!!

Occam's Razor.

I agree but how do the control freaks get to exercise their perverted desires without new laws?

 

[DPLongo22]

Best not ban me, I won't go quietly.

Nor I.

We gotta stick together.

 

[DPLongo22]

I agree but how do the control freaks get to exercise their perverted desires without new laws?

"...a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma."

~Winston Churchill, 1939

 

[CMD-Ky]

Hell, most of us adults do too, so why would kids who vape be any different? Am I in support of these draconian measures? Certainly not. But understanding the problems that led up to this whole thing needs to happen in order to achieve a solution we can all live with.

Yes, there will be taxes levied. Yes there will be limits installed. The unfortunate reality is that there will always be stupid people doing stupid things and politicians who make hay from sociatal shortcomings.
ailability.

I doubt capitulation to the politicians will bring us peace. They will always be back for more, be it taxes, regulation or control.

 

[Racehorse]

I use a pod system, with refillable pods. I don't litter.

Certainly, if you are purchasing ejuice in all those plastic bottles, they are piling up in the landfills as well?

Humans, based on their consuming habits, create a lot of waste.

I've replaced most of my hair and body personal care products with "bars" instead of plastic bottles. I make my own ejuice and use same glass bottles that I boil, clean and re-use. I generate exactly one 8-gallon bag of trash per week because I don't eat out of boxes, bags, or cans.

Bottom Line: If you are truly concerned about litter and waste, then you will look at areas of your own life to see where you can be less of a problem, instead of beating up on teenagers. and pointing fingers at "others". (because every little bit helps. )

 

[DPLongo22]

I doubt capitulation to the politicians will bring us peace. They will always be back for more, be it taxes, regulation or control.

Stories of inches & miles.

 

[icepickmaker84]

If someone likes mtl pods, I see no reason why they wouldnt like mtl tanks. Is it simply the size ? As for the actual vape, you should be able to get the same, if not a better vape from a mtl tank.

She doesn’t like having a mod and tank. Frankly I won’t argue with her if it keeps her from smoking.

 

[AttyPops]

How's about they just penalize people when they find someone discarding something that shouldn't be discarded in that manner? I believe our existing Littering laws cover most of it, at the very least.

See that? It wouldn't even require a single page of new legislation!!!

Occam's Razor.

Yes officer Obie, I put that pod under that pile of garbage. (Group W bench, here I come)

 

[DPLongo22]

She doesn’t like having a mod and tank. Frankly I won’t argue with her if it keeps her from smoking.

If she throws it into the street, will you pledge to report her to the authorities?

If so, case closed.

 

[barkfunklerbunk]

Let people consume what they want, and let nature take its course and sort out the problem. You want to vape this shady THC juice with vitamin C acetate? Go for it.
Just have everything with transparency, so people know what's at stake/risk. If I want to drink some industrial bleach, or eat a tide pod, or vape some nic juice.. well, that should be my freedom to do so. But I know that I'll most likely die if I eat a tide pod or drink bleach, so I don't.

 

[Letitia]

Best not ban me, I won't go quietly.

I'll sneak you in the back door sweets.

 

[Letitia]

Nor I.

We gotta stick together.

You too.

 

[zoiDman]

Seeing it already... little plastic pods, in parking lots and the park, the new cigarette .... of the new Age.

Vapors used to be the good guys... the ones who didn't leave their nasty cigarette butts all over the ground.

There's a bipartisan Bill working it's way around the Senate to ban pods and cartridge e-cigarettes and I hope it becomes law!
Teenagers love the easy convenience of the pods. Eradicating them, forcing adults to buy box mods (the horror! For their refillable tanks wouldn't be the end of the world.

Limiting vape sales to vape shops was a good idea. Eliminating gas station and convenience store sales was a good idea too.

Putting reputable e liquid manufacturers out of business? Not so much... maybe a modest sin tax on e-liquid wouldn't be a bad idea. If we're lining govt pockets with revenue, maybe they'd leave us in peace....

As with Just About Everything in life, it only takes a Very Few to screw it up for Everyone. Not sure why Taking the Time to throw a Pod in the Trash instead off on the Ground should be Any Different?

But do we want to Live in the World where everything is Banned because of a VERY Small percentage at the Expense of the Overwhelming Majority?

If we do, I'll give you that it will be a Clean World. But that will be because almost Everything has been Banned.

 

[fiddleshe]

Kids will be kids. They rebel and do crap they shouldnt do and have for Millennium. That's what politicians and parents don't seem to get. If it isnt vaping it will be something else.