Batteries blowing up

[ReikiHealer]

Hi everyone!

If this should be moved to the Health section, please let me know. It didn't look like there was too much activity over there so figured I'd post here:

I've been vaping for two months now. Love it! Over the weekend, I was reminded that these things were blowing up occasionally (my husband has a friend that is very well-versed in vaping and told him that was happening mostly because people were using the wrong batteries for their tanks or building their own stuff but not well).

So I did a little bit of reading and saw that it's a big no-no to charge your vaporizer any other way than by the charger you were given. I didn't get a charger in my start-up pack with my Moto (plus, I think?) sub-ohm, and I didn't think anything of using a charger I had for a blutooth speaker at the house to charge it. The guy I bought it from didn't mention that to me, otherwise I would have bought a charger (honestly I didn't even realize it didn't come with one). So, my question is: Is it concerning that I've used the wrong charger on the vaporizer from here on out: meaning like, is it possible that it will just blow up because I have used the wrong charger in the past or is it more like, while the vaporizer is plugged in this would be an issue? I know it's rare that these things blow up but I just want to make sure my husband and I are being as safe as possible. I'll get rid of the vaporizer and get a new one if it's "ruined" so-to-say from plugging it in with a charger that didn't come directly from the manufacturer.

Sorry if any of this sounds kind of dumb. I tried to do as much reading as possible but you guys tend to be super informed on all of this so figured it may be easier to just ask you all directly.

Thank you!

 

[LX1X]

Hi everyone!

If this should be moved to the Health section, please let me know. It didn't look like there was too much activity over there so figured I'd post here:

I've been vaping for two months now. Love it! Over the weekend, I was reminded that these things were blowing up occasionally (my husband has a friend that is very well-versed in vaping and told him that was happening mostly because people were using the wrong batteries for their tanks or building their own stuff but not well).

So I did a little bit of reading and saw that it's a big no-no to charge your vaporizer any other way than by the charger you were given. I didn't get a charger in my start-up pack with my Moto (plus, I think?) sub-ohm, and I didn't think anything of using a charger I had for a blutooth speaker at the house to charge it. The guy I bought it from didn't mention that to me, otherwise I would have bought a charger (honestly I didn't even realize it didn't come with one). So, my question is: Is it concerning that I've used the wrong charger on the vaporizer from here on out: meaning like, is it possible that it will just blow up because I have used the wrong charger in the past or is it more like, while the vaporizer is plugged in this would be an issue? I know it's rare that these things blow up but I just want to make sure my husband and I are being as safe as possible. I'll get rid of the vaporizer and get a new one if it's "ruined" so-to-say from plugging it in with a charger that didn't come directly from the manufacturer.

Sorry if any of this sounds kind of dumb. I tried to do as much reading as possible but you guys tend to be super informed on all of this so figured it may be easier to just ask you all directly.

Thank you!

Some device has built in safety.

Google the device you have and search for user manuals.. start from there.

 

[snork]

Explosions are rare, but it's good you're being safe.
Looking at the specifications of a Moto Plus it says this:
"...The Moto plus battery can be charged through the micro USB port located at the bottom end of the battery. The battery should be charged with a 1.0A or 1.5A charger.
Do not use anything over 1.5A to charge the battery. Moto Plus battery has the pass-through technology, so it can be used while still being charged. The USB port is placed to the side of the battery which allows the users to easily vape while the battery is still being charged. However to ensure a long life of your Moto Plus kit we do not recommend using the battery while its being charged."

Most, if not all wall-wart type chargers will have some sort of input and output rating inscribed on them. The output is what you're looking for. It may be described as Amps or milliAmps. If whatever charger you've used doesn't exceed 1.5 Amps or 1500 milliAmps you're fine. There doesn't seem to be a specific charger for your Moto, so they're relying on you to use whatever works that you have around the house.
Check out your charger. I'll bet you're fine!

 

[VHRB2014]

Did you get a manual with it? If you did look and see if they tell you the "charge rate" for the device. If you did`nt get one go to the manufactures website and see if they have one you can download. Normally with these self contained batteries you want to know what the maximum amount of charge is ("charge rate") that is allowable, usually called out in milliamps.
What are milliamps?

Once you know this, you can select a charger that has the same or lower rating as the battery does. Its OK to have a charger with a lower charge rate number, but you want to stay away from anything that would force an overcharge into it, this is why they blow up, trying to cram too much charge into it that it can not absorb appropriately.

BOL.

 

[LX1X]

Explosions are rare, but it's good you're being safe.
Looking at the specifications of a Moto Plus it says this:
"...The Moto plus battery can be charged through the micro USB port located at the bottom end of the battery. The battery should be charged with a 1.0A or 1.5A charger.
Do not use anything over 1.5A to charge the battery. Moto Plus battery has the pass-through technology, so it can be used while still being charged. The USB port is placed to the side of the battery which allows the users to easily vape while the battery is still being charged. However to ensure a long life of your Moto Plus kit we do not recommend using the battery while its being charged."

Most, if not all wall-wart type chargers will have some sort of input and output rating inscribed on them. The output is what you're looking for. It may be described as Amps or milliAmps. If whatever charger you've used doesn't exceed 1.5 Amps or 1500 milliAmps you're fine. There doesn't seem to be a specific charger for your Moto, so they're relying on you to use whatever works that you have around the house.
Check out your charger. I'll bet you're fine!

In addtion.Don't use usb "speed/turbo" chargers... they run at higher amps.

 

[Hitmetwice]

The "charger is in the device" the cable is simply a cable, if it is of decent quality/not super thin it should be fine.

The wall wart(the block u plug into the mains) simply transforms the power to 5 volts. If it is capable of at least providing the power needed by your mod you're fine. 1 amp or higher.

If anything starts getting hot while charging it is a sign something may not be right. Warm is normal and fine.
Hot is not, unplug it.

I've been using a 5 volt 3 amp wall wart for months with my device that requires only 1 amp to charge. It creates less heat than the 1 amp wall wart supplied with the kit. Cheers.

 

[KenD]

The battery should be charged with a 1.0A or 1.5A charger.
Do not use anything over 1.5A to charge the battery.

Wrong information, and actually potentially dangerous. Amps are drawn by the device (the actual charger is in the mod), not pushed by the wall wart. The wall wart should be rated for at least the charging rate of the mod, preferably higher. If an underrated wall wart is used it's pushed beyond its limits, gets hot, and might potentially fail. Please check your facts before giving advice.

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[KenD]

In addtion.Don't use usb "speed/turbo" chargers... they run at higher amps.

Erroneous and potentially dangerous information. Please check my earlier post.

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[snork]

Wrong information, and actually potentially dangerous. Amps are drawn by the device (the actual charger is in the mod), not pushed by the wall wart. The wall wart should be rated for at least the charging rate of the mod, preferably higher. If an underrated wall wart is used it's pushed beyond its limits, gets hot, and might potentially fail. Please check your facts before giving advice.

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Okay, I defer to your expertise.

 

[LX1X]

Okay, I defer to your expertise.

Nah.. I defer to manufacurers.

Moto Plus Kit | Vapor Tech Online

What you posted is what I'd follow.

Maybe true if the dev has built in safeties from a well known manufacturer.

 

[GeorgeS]

I have a handful of different eGo type devices from Kangertech. Each one came with its own UNIQUE charger. (recall that these charge via the 510 connector)

I make it a point to only use the charger intended for the device.

I have countless USB type devices which can be charged via a standard 5V USB supplied power source. (including personal vaporizers or 'mods')

I really don't pay much attention as I cycle all my rechargable devices on the the same USB wall warts.

 

[KenD]

Nah.. I defer to manufacurers.

Moto Plus Kit | Vapor Tech Online

What you posted is what I'd follow.

Maybe true if the dev has built in safeties from a well known manufacturer.

Amps are pulled not pushed. I doubt the manufacturer has changed the laws of physics...

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[sofarsogood]

Hi everyone!

If this should be moved to the Health section, please let me know. It didn't look like there was too much activity over there so figured I'd post here:

I've been vaping for two months now. Love it! Over the weekend, I was reminded that these things were blowing up occasionally (my husband has a friend that is very well-versed in vaping and told him that was happening mostly because people were using the wrong batteries for their tanks or building their own stuff but not well).

So I did a little bit of reading and saw that it's a big no-no to charge your vaporizer any other way than by the charger you were given. I didn't get a charger in my start-up pack with my Moto (plus, I think?) sub-ohm, and I didn't think anything of using a charger I had for a blutooth speaker at the house to charge it. The guy I bought it from didn't mention that to me, otherwise I would have bought a charger (honestly I didn't even realize it didn't come with one). So, my question is: Is it concerning that I've used the wrong charger on the vaporizer from here on out: meaning like, is it possible that it will just blow up because I have used the wrong charger in the past or is it more like, while the vaporizer is plugged in this would be an issue? I know it's rare that these things blow up but I just want to make sure my husband and I are being as safe as possible. I'll get rid of the vaporizer and get a new one if it's "ruined" so-to-say from plugging it in with a charger that didn't come directly from the manufacturer.

Sorry if any of this sounds kind of dumb. I tried to do as much reading as possible but you guys tend to be super informed on all of this so figured it may be easier to just ask you all directly.

Thank you!

I follow ecig news as closely as I can. Nearly all the injury accidents associated with using ecigs seem to involve two factors, carrying a loose battery with unprotected terminals or using a mech mod. Having said that if you are going to use mods with replaceable batteries you should be able to do a Watt's law calculation from memory and know how to determine if the battery you are going to use at the settings you've chosen is prudent. If that's too much trouble buy regulated mods from reputable manufacturers with built in batteries. If you chooes the batteries you use you'd like to be confident that they are from a reputable source, and a trusted manufacturer. Your USB chargers should also be well made and from reputable companies. You have other devices with Li batteries, like your phone. Any of them can cause trouble if abused.

Find a youtube video on the search terms 18650 venting and see what that looks like.

 

[snork]

Nah.. I defer to manufacurers.

Moto Plus Kit | Vapor Tech Online

What you posted is what I'd follow.

Maybe true if the dev has built in safeties from a well known manufacturer.

Yes, that was my train of thought. I suppose the most helpful answer would be to suggest a specific charger. Maybe some expert can do that.

 

[Two_Bears]

Hi everyone!

If this should be moved to the Health section, please let me know. It didn't look like there was too much activity over there so figured I'd post here:

I've been vaping for two months now. Love it! Over the weekend, I was reminded that these things were blowing up occasionally (my husband has a friend that is very well-versed in vaping and told him that was happening mostly because people were using the wrong batteries for their tanks or building their own stuff but not well).

So I did a little bit of reading and saw that it's a big no-no to charge your vaporizer any other way than by the charger you were given. I didn't get a charger in my start-up pack with my Moto (plus, I think?) sub-ohm, and I didn't think anything of using a charger I had for a blutooth speaker at the house to charge it. The guy I bought it from didn't mention that to me, otherwise I would have bought a charger (honestly I didn't even realize it didn't come with one). So, my question is: Is it concerning that I've used the wrong charger on the vaporizer from here on out: meaning like, is it possible that it will just blow up because I have used the wrong charger in the past or is it more like, while the vaporizer is plugged in this would be an issue? I know it's rare that these things blow up but I just want to make sure my husband and I are being as safe as possible. I'll get rid of the vaporizer and get a new one if it's "ruined" so-to-say from plugging it in with a charger that didn't come directly from the manufacturer.

Sorry if any of this sounds kind of dumb. I tried to do as much reading as possible but you guys tend to be super informed on all of this so figured it may be easier to just ask you all directly.

Thank you!

Reiki Healer

Tge batteries are blowing up for two reasons.

1. Hybrid mech mods abd using an Atomizer that doesnt have a 510 PIN extends far enough.

Tge problem is tge 510 is positive. Tge collar around the pin is negative. When both positive and negative connect to tge positive end of the battery sets up a loop like placing a copper penny on both connections on a 9 Volt battery. The battery gets hotter and hotter until the battery vents or blows.

2. People who wont take time to learn ohms law and battery safety.

They get a 20 amp battery abd build STUPID LOW resistance not knowing they are trying to pull 30 amps out of a 20 amp battery. Batteries can only stand so much abuse before they vent or blow.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Quick question about Wall to USB chargers

This does get confusing if one is not an electronics expert, which I'm not, but hopefully this link will shed some light on the issue.

It's important to read through to page 2 to get a good written explanation.

 

[ReikiHealer]

Reiki Healer

Tge batteries are blowing up for two reasons.

1. Hybrid mech mods abd using an Atomizer that doesnt have a 510 PIN extends far enough.

Tge problem is tge 510 is positive. Tge collar around the pin is negative. When both positive and negative connect to tge positive end of the battery sets up a loop like placing a copper penny on both connections on a 9 Volt battery. The battery gets hotter and hotter until the battery vents or blows.

2. People who wont take time to learn ohms law and battery safety.

They get a 20 amp battery abd build STUPID LOW resistance not knowing they are trying to pull 30 amps out of a 20 amp battery. Batteries can only stand so much abuse before they vent or blow.

Most of this just seems like Latin to me. I am trying, I swear! My train of thought was so long as I'm not buying like, overseas, buying directly from Vape shops, and not building my own stuff, using the battery and atomizer (or tank) that all come together I should be good, is this correct?

I didn't realize until recently that there could be an issue with using a different battery, and one did not come with my device. The battery I've been using is 500milliamps, Moto's website says:

"The battery should be charged with a 1.0A or 1.5A charger.

Do not use anything over 1.5A to charge the battery."

So I guess technically the 500 has been OK, but I need to purchase a 1.0A or a 1.5A charger, which I will. Sorry, that information existed on the website but I had no idea exactly what that meant without you all helping to explain to me! I do appreciate it so much!

 

[daviedog]

Dear Reiki,,for your own piece of mind, buy the exact tranny 1.5 amp that Moto suggests.
And no, your mod is not ruined..

 

[englishmick]

Dear Reiki,,for your own piece of mind, buy the exact tranny 1.5 amp that Moto suggests.
And no, your mod is not ruined..

I've got a question. I think I've asked it before and not got an answer. Maybe someone here knows.

Is there any way of figuring out the condition of your battery, whether it's separate or built in? Seems like there should be something you could do with a multi meter to give you that information but I'm not too well up on this stuff.

 

[LX1X]

I've got a question. I think I've asked it before and not got an answer. Maybe someone here knows.

Is there any way of figuring out the condition of your battery, whether it's separate or built in? Seems like there should be something you could do with a multi meter to give you that information but I'm not too well up on this stuff.

Bad batteries doesn't hold charge for certain length of use.

One indicator.. If you were able to use the battery for x of time when it was new.. and suddenly that time got shorter without changing your usage/setup.