Battery do's and don't?
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My eyes always auto-correct the auto-correct. I don't trust it at all.
Never trust a review with misspelled words or bad grammar ...
It was cute!
Altho, my favorite auto correct is "cape" for "vape". Can't help but picture Batman and Zorro with a Provari.
That is cute
At the other end of the spectrum are those auto-corrects or Freudian slips with g in them. Makes some posts hilarious.
At the other end of the spectrum are those auto-corrects or Freudian slips with g in them. Makes some posts hilarious.
wow, looks like i missed quite a bit...
anyways, in my last post, i claimed that i'd read that aw imr's are rebranded panasonic hybrids (tested by aw to ensure quality and performance), and that i'd follow up with any supporting evidence. i haven't found anything more than speculation regarding the imr's, but i did find this (hopefully ecf allows the link):
AW's LiIon Batteries Sales Thread *Part 12*
i concede that perhaps it's a stretch to claim that aw imr 2000 mah batteries are re-branded cgr18650ch's, but aw himself basically advertises the fact that he does use panasonic batteries
anyways, in my last post, i claimed that i'd read that aw imr's are rebranded panasonic hybrids (tested by aw to ensure quality and performance), and that i'd follow up with any supporting evidence. i haven't found anything more than speculation regarding the imr's, but i did find this (hopefully ecf allows the link):
AW's LiIon Batteries Sales Thread *Part 12*
i concede that perhaps it's a stretch to claim that aw imr 2000 mah batteries are re-branded cgr18650ch's, but aw himself basically advertises the fact that he does use panasonic batteries
That specific thread is only non-IMR batteries ... these appear to be panasonic hybrids though, but it seems he may not be getting his hands on the high drain hybrids. These appear to be the non-high drain models. In any event I'd say the biggest tipoff continues to be the inferior performance curve ... I doubt he would be getting those batteries and selling them underperforming the normal CGR18650CH.
Post 3431 on the above thread is quoted below.
(AW does sell AW lMRs via that thread. Some are also pictured on the first post.)
I don't know when he started selling the lMR's . I do know he didn't make/label the lMR 2000 mAh version until well after I was a vaper.
"Default Re: AW's LiIon Batteries Sales Thread *Part 12*
Hi,AW
AW IMR 18350 $7.5 each x 6 = 45.00
Postage 5.00
Insurance +3.00
Total $53.00
OK PP"
I've read many stories about AW. I have also read that the lMR's were the CGR's. I've also read that the Protecteds were all Panasonics. I've also read that none of his batteries are Panasonics. For years it seems people have been guessing....and the guesses change.
I've also read a day or so ago that his lMR's say made in China on them, when they clearly don't (on the label). Only the black labeled one's say that.
Super T used to have some great comparison charts. I can't find them anymore, so they may have been removed with his site remodel. All the "usual" places I know of for this type of info don't have comparison tests. Some discount the most posted tests (Calli's Custom I believe) because of their vested interest.
Editing to add a question. AW lMR 2000 mAh have been called high drain. "This one has a 10 amp Max. continuous discharge rate." From my recollection, the black AW's have not ever been called high drain.
What definition of High Drain are you using?
(AW does sell AW lMRs via that thread. Some are also pictured on the first post.)
I don't know when he started selling the lMR's . I do know he didn't make/label the lMR 2000 mAh version until well after I was a vaper.
"Default Re: AW's LiIon Batteries Sales Thread *Part 12*
Hi,AW
AW IMR 18350 $7.5 each x 6 = 45.00
Postage 5.00
Insurance +3.00
Total $53.00
OK PP"
I've read many stories about AW. I have also read that the lMR's were the CGR's. I've also read that the Protecteds were all Panasonics. I've also read that none of his batteries are Panasonics. For years it seems people have been guessing....and the guesses change.
I've also read a day or so ago that his lMR's say made in China on them, when they clearly don't (on the label). Only the black labeled one's say that.
Super T used to have some great comparison charts. I can't find them anymore, so they may have been removed with his site remodel. All the "usual" places I know of for this type of info don't have comparison tests. Some discount the most posted tests (Calli's Custom I believe) because of their vested interest.
Editing to add a question. AW lMR 2000 mAh have been called high drain. "This one has a 10 amp Max. continuous discharge rate." From my recollection, the black AW's have not ever been called high drain.
What definition of High Drain are you using?
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Do you mean this chart? If not, you might ask in the Super T supplier sub-forum:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sonic-imr-18650-2250mah-cgr18650ch-stock.html
Basically it all comes down what you are using your battery for and how long you wish it to function decently. Safety is always a concern but I believe those 2 batteries are considered "safe" chemistry.
Strange, I just saw an AW black 18650 3400 mah battery. Safety features... Safety Vent, PCB, then HRL... The HRL tech I thought was for Panasonics.. which I had not read (or have not remembered) any other main brand with the HRL. Please let me know if I wrong. So maybe AW does repackage tested Panny's. I have read similar to you... he does and he doesn't. The only battery I have seen at 3400 mah with PCB and HRL is the Panny NCR18650B 3400 mah.
This is first time I read "safety vent" not sure technically what that means.
When I finally wear out one of my 16 month old AW 18650 IMR's I plan to strip the heat shrink outer coat to see if Panasonic markings are underneath. All 4 of mine are still going strong after being rotated constantly in my Provari since April 2012.
I'm betting that underneath the red exterior will be a metal can with cryptic markings (if there are any at all). There should be some kind of ink stamp for in house manufacturing control.
I'm betting that underneath the red exterior will be a metal can with cryptic markings (if there are any at all). There should be some kind of ink stamp for in house manufacturing control.
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Just by numbers, chances are good most our batteries are made by Sanyo, the worlds largest battery manufacturer. Which is now a subsidiary of Panasonic.
... just wild speculation on my part. Disclaimer:
It's just a hole that lets gases out to prevent build-up of pressure in case a chemical reaction starts to ... well... create gases.
... just wild speculation on my part. Disclaimer:
It's just a hole that lets gases out to prevent build-up of pressure in case a chemical reaction starts to ... well... create gases.
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Do:
Don't:
People with zero electrical knowledge, no means of testing voltage, resistance and current and who don't want to be bothered with the fact that electricity is dangerous and requires religious allegiance to safety protocols should stick to eGo systems. You're not ready for a big shiny mod with telescoping tubes, whether or not it has VV or VW circuitry.
Somebody somewhere who grew up in the age of the internet, microwave popcorn, instant Starbucks and cheap electronics is going to hit youtube and see a cloud of vapor in a video. He'll throw together two cheap, no-name batteries and stack them in a tube with few safety features. Just like a flashlight, right? Then he'll throw a low resistance atomizer on the top, juice it up and mash the button.
Since he doesn't even know what a multimeter is or what it's used for, he won't know what's going on until he and his mod become the neighborhood fireworks display and the top story on the local evening news.
You wait. It's gonna happen.
- Gain a working understanding of electricity and electrical theory. Be able to calculate Ohm's law in your head.
- Buy name brand batteries of the type and size best suited for your needs.
- Buy quality chargers and follow manufacturer instructions.
- Buy a dedicated multimeter.
- Learn how to read a battery spec and interpret it.
- Know the difference between IMR and ICR.
- Know the difference in protected and unprotected batteries.
- Know what type of batteries your device requires and supply them.
- Buy quality equipment with redundant safety features, such as protection circuitry, fuses and weak points to allow venting.
- Let batteries rest after charging or discharging (i.e., using them in an APV).
Don't:
- Use unprotected ICR batteries in an APV.
- Charge batteries unattended.
- Fall asleep while batteries are charging.
- Trust the batteries or chargers that came with your mod kit.
- Get in the habit of stacking rechargeable batteries in an APV.
- Build or buy mods with questionable or nonexistent safety features.
- Mix batteries of differing capacities, charge levels, sizes or chemistries.
- Use non-rechargeable batteries in an APV. Those are for toys, and these are not toys.
- Defeat any safety mechanisms included with or built into your device. That 2 cent fuse was included for a reason.
- Charge in a vehicle on a regular basis.
- Leave unattended in a hot vehicle (charging or otherwise).
People with zero electrical knowledge, no means of testing voltage, resistance and current and who don't want to be bothered with the fact that electricity is dangerous and requires religious allegiance to safety protocols should stick to eGo systems. You're not ready for a big shiny mod with telescoping tubes, whether or not it has VV or VW circuitry.
Somebody somewhere who grew up in the age of the internet, microwave popcorn, instant Starbucks and cheap electronics is going to hit youtube and see a cloud of vapor in a video. He'll throw together two cheap, no-name batteries and stack them in a tube with few safety features. Just like a flashlight, right? Then he'll throw a low resistance atomizer on the top, juice it up and mash the button.
Since he doesn't even know what a multimeter is or what it's used for, he won't know what's going on until he and his mod become the neighborhood fireworks display and the top story on the local evening news.
You wait. It's gonna happen.
I nominate IBCR Media for president. That post should be copied to a sticky.
At least the ones I use has ... how should I put it... pierced nipples?
At least the ones I use has ... how should I put it... pierced nipples?
Hmm not a piercing man... I think I got an image though... will check mine when I get home from work and dance... No I don't dance my daughters do.
Ahh maybe those are the "slits" in mine at the positive terminal. Some funky wierd slit in the negative.
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This topic had strayed too far off of the VapePath and needed a VapeZen Master to steer it deftly back on course.
Carry on, ladies and gentlemen.
Carry on, ladies and gentlemen.
He has a separate thread for the IMRs. Someone posting their order in this thread does not make this thread about IMRs.
The only high drain panasonic hybrids I know of are the NCR and CGR batteries designated high drain (NCR18650PD and CGR18650CH). I think these days high drain starts at about 10a continuous. The black AW batteries are definitely Panasonics, he goes into detail about the chemistry and design, which are pretty much straight up Panasonic stuff. However they are not the high drain models, judging by the specifications, so he does not appear to be getting those. His IMRs seem to be straight IMR chemistry, not hybrid chemistry, evidenced by the fact that his capacities are underperforming the CGR18650CH. Like I said I don't see how he would be getting the CGR18650CH, picking the best ones, and they would underperform the CGR18650CH.
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