Battery venting Aegis is it safe

[Punk In Drublic]

Five pin hole sized holes and the mangled wreck of a USB port. The other factor is how strong is the containing case? In the case of the ageis 100, very. That vent might get quite a bit bigger before it’s done burning, and the flames shooting out of it might get kinda long though with all the stuff escaping through that one hole. This is why I personally think the bottom door on the legend will probably just blow open. It takes a metal fire not just a vent to do that though, and if you’ve got a metal fire you’re looking at a future pile of melted slag no matter what you’ve got, Be it a mod, or an electric car, or a WW2 nazi rocket plane. The only thing to do is get the hell away from it. Or it the hell away from you. Luckily mods are small enough to be thrown.

You are picking straws. Never mid the “what if” scenarios. Find the pressure of release for battery venting and tell me without an ounce of doubt that those 5 small holes on the Aegis are adequate for all venting situations.

Battery venting is due to pressure increase from within the battery. This is caused by an increase in temperature and will be different depending on the situation and the cell. There is not static number. And if that increase in temperature from within the battery is not put under control within an extremely short time, the cell may enter a state of thermal runaway. Non of this can be safely predicted.

As for blowing up devices…the pressure release must be great enough to relieve enough pressure so that internal pressure does not exceed the devices integrity. Can you say without an ounce of doubt that every device that employs venting holes will allow this?

Bottom line: Do not fall for a false sense of security just because your device has a few vent holes. Respect your batteries so that you do not enter a state of venting to see whether your device has or has not the capability of keeping that venting under control.

 

[bombastinator]

Washing it? It's waterproof from the outside assuming the silicone seals and plugs are all intact. Inside the mod, it is just as vulnerable to water as any other electronic device.

True. But I don’t think she’s sniffing the inside... I think, anyway...

 

[bombastinator]

There is no metallic lithium in a lithium-ion battery. What burns in a thermal runaway is the electrolyte, which is a lithium salt in an organic solvent.

Yup. Same as an electric car fire. I posit the difference is effectively negligible.

 

[Baditude]

True. But I don’t think she’s sniffing the inside... I think, anyway...

 

[bombastinator]

You ask. “Pardon me, ma’am, but do you like to sniff the insides of electronic devices?” No thank you.

 

[stols001]

Vaping is as safe as you make it: you choose the right (authentic and from a reputable supplier) battery, you charge it externally if it's a removable battery mod, and you keep your batteries and their wraps clean and intact. It's pretty much the best you can do. We are all gonna die of something.

I'd say the chances of your mod venting if you aren't overstressing it or misusing it would be RATHER insanelly small. I'm not saying it DOESN'T happen, but even if it does, vaping is to smoking as airplanes are to cars.

You are far more likely to die of smoking related illness. FACT. Vaping has killed VERY few people.

And, if you are unlucky and your mod vents, you are still probably not going to die.

But if I have to go out via exploding vape I would choose that over COPD any day of the week.

And stop obsessing over vent holes it is a REGULATED mod, and one with a GREAT reputation.

Good luck,

Anna

 

[muth]

Tried washing it? It is waterproof

Der, I didn't think of that. I rubbed it down with 97% alcohol which did nothing. I found some solutions to removing odors from silicone and rubber products but most of them were soaks. I don't think it can be submerged, right? I guess it won't hurt to rub the solution on it and let it dry. Thx for the help.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

Der, I didn't think of that. I rubbed it down with 97% alcohol which did nothing. I found some solutions to removing odors from silicone and rubber products but most of them were soaks. I don't think it can be submerged, right? I guess it won't hurt to rub the solution on it and let it dry. Thx for the help.

A new Aegis is IP67 water resistant, which means it can withstand being submerged up to 1 meter deep (3.3 feet) for 30 minutes. But given you purchased a used one, ya have to ask if the original owner tampered with this seal or not. Especially given that it smells (which is really odd!). My Aegis does not smell.

I have found with silicone squonk bottles that odors do tend to fade with time. But that is with retaining the odor of e-juice.

 

[Baditude]

I don't think it can be submerged, right?

Well, it is waterproof. That and being able to withstand a drop without breaking are the two main reasons to own an Aegis.

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Don't ask "is it safe" on a public forum. Especially if you're going to be all dubious about the answers. Nobody here can make you any guarantees. If you do your own research you'll realize what a silly thing this is to fuss over. Cells don't vent unless you push them way past maximum rated current, so try not doing that.

 

[bombastinator]

Der, I didn't think of that. I rubbed it down with 97% alcohol which did nothing. I found some solutions to removing odors from silicone and rubber products but most of them were soaks. I don't think it can be submerged, right? I guess it won't hurt to rub the solution on it and let it dry. Thx for the help.

 

[muth]

Do ya think his vape tasted a little chlorinated the first few pulls?

 

[englishmick]

I've got an Aegis Mini which is a bit different since it has an internal battery. On the bottom it has 6 small holes. They don't go all the way through the rubberised covering. I read on their site that the holes go most of the way through the rubber leaving a thin layer of rubber in place to keep it waterproof. If the battery vents that thin layer of rubber would blow out from the pressure.

I don't know whether the other Aegis mods use a similar system. Or whether those 6 small holes would be enough to let gasses from a venting battery escape. Got to be better than nothing, Maybe there are other weak spots on the case, like around the screen or the button. I just took a look and my iStick 40 has its vent holes on the top next to the tank.

Never really worried about regulated mods venting. Anything can go wrong but the odds are pretty low on this one.

 

[bombastinator]

I've got an Aegis Mini which is a bit different since it has an internal battery. On the bottom it has 6 small holes. They don't go all the way through the rubberised covering. I read on their site that the holes go most of the way through the rubber leaving a thin layer of rubber in place to keep it waterproof. If the battery vents that thin layer of rubber would blow out from the pressure.

I don't know whether the other Aegis mods use a similar system. Or whether those 6 small holes would be enough to let gasses from a venting battery escape. Got to be better than nothing, Maybe there are other weak spots on the case, like around the screen or the button. I just took a look and my iStick 40 has its vent holes on the top next to the tank.

Never really worried about regulated mods venting. Anything can go wrong but the odds are pretty low on this one.

Sounds like an ageis mini. It’s tiny compared to the other ones. There were vague rumblings of ageis thinking about doing a removable battery version of the mini. Apparently there may be an 18650 in there.

 

[stols001]

More like kid pee.

I don't go near ANY pool if I can help it. The husband occasionally drags me into mountain streams, but I totally hate it. The OCEAN, even before we polluted it, was a horrible mishmash of things that could hurt, maim, and kill you, etc.

Oh I would take the kid swimming in our totally unpolluted stream by my house, but it is ONLY my great love for him that would take me searching for CRAWFISH. I wore shoes, but it still sucked.

I only need waterproof mods because I dunk them in my coffee sometimes. And, OP, here is a fun fact, I have a totally NON waterproof mod (the target mini) that I dunked in coffee TWICE, and both times, I dried it in front of a fan, and it didn't die. It also did not blow up and I'm pretty sure I don't know where the vent holes even ARE IF they are.

Yes, you can approach vaping like a timid childlike creature, but really mods (apparently) can sometimes take a ton of abuse.

The first time I fired it up, I didn't even have my fire extinguisher handy. Maybe I should have but life is short. I only have time to worry about SO MANY things.

Like how in god's name we are gonna finish this house. It's getting packed and the amount of remediation it needs ALREADY is frightening.

Anna

 

[muth]

More like kid pee.

Ew, I didn't even think of that....*ugh*blech*spit*gag*

 

[muth]

I've got an Aegis Mini which is a bit different since it has an internal battery. On the bottom it has 6 small holes. They don't go all the way through the rubberised covering. I read on their site that the holes go most of the way through the rubber leaving a thin layer of rubber in place to keep it waterproof. If the battery vents that thin layer of rubber would blow out from the pressure.

Ya mean like a hymen?

 

[muth]

Sounds like an ageis mini. It’s tiny compared to the other ones. There were vague rumblings of ageis thinking about doing a removable battery version of the mini. Apparently there may be an 18650 in there.

I would love a removable li-po pack or the option of charging (if only I had a li-po charger)

 

[Mooch]

If a battery goes road flare it doesn’t matter if it has magnetic battery doors or not. If it can vent it won’t explode. Gotta have a strong airtight casing to build the pressure for an explosion. A lithium fire is a lithium fire though. All you can do with a metal fire is throw the thing onto something non flammable and wait for it to be over. They burn really really hot and nothing puts them out.

There’s no metallic lithium in a rechargeable Li-ion battery though. Only non-rechargeable lithium-metal batteries have metallic lithium.

Our batteries burn so “well” because of the violent, exothermic chemical reactions that occur when the thermal runaway threshold temperature is reached.

 

[bombastinator]

There’s no metallic lithium in a rechargeable Li-ion battery though. Only non-rechargeable lithium-metal batteries have metallic lithium.

Our batteries burn so “well” because of the violent, exothermic chemical reactions that occur when the thermal runaway threshold temperature is reached.

So can they be put out or not? My understanding was that they couldn’t. If the high temps are denaturing lithium salts back into free lithium, it’s a metal fire again. The dangers of a metal fire are they burn at very very high heat and cannot be put out with anything.