BBC article e-cig etiquette

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Vocalek

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Sunday Times columnist Rod Liddle, who smokes conventional cigarettes, has little time for e-cigarettes. "They're effete and cowardly."

Wow! What a brave guy! Why are we too yellow-bellied to laugh in the face of getting COPD, cancer, a heart attack, or stroke? We should all go back to smoking and let the chips fall where they may.

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Not a horrible article- certainly ignorance is shown here but the article also admits that e-cigs are better for you than real smoking... Just didn't like the way they portray e-cigs as a "novelty" item... Oh well...like I said, those who don't understand trying to comment on them...so it's their take...
 

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I think he makes a point or two in hassle vs. reward, if I am at friends house I ask first, if I am work where they have a draconian smoking policy any way can only smoke in cars. Some times I stealth vape like in the bathrooms no cameras in there. (i work in a grocery store so thats the only place with out cameras.) They way I look at it is the only place I really want to vape is in a place where I am having a drink, so at a restaurant/ bar I will usually ask first, but in saying that last weekend I was at a bar/resturant and just didn't feel like it so I just pulled it out and started vaping and no one said a word. :toast:
 

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Yeah, I always ask in a restaurant/bar...
A few places in town, they said "no problem," as there are also vapers on their staff.
However, when I tried to give them a CASAA window sticker to put up (next to their no smoking sign), I was flatly denied..."We don't want people to thing that this is a vaper's haven." So, there is still an undercurrent. If a lot of people were vaping at the same time in these particular bar/restaurants, I'm sure we would be told to "keep it down."
 

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I came across this (both childish and ignorant, IMO) quote in a relatively recent BBC News story and wondered what people thought...

Sunday Times columnist Rod Liddle, who smokes conventional cigarettes, has little time for e-cigarettes. "They're effete and cowardly." The ban on flights is absurd but then people should either give up or show some willpower if they need them so much, he argues. "They're a demonstration of craven addiction."
So if he hosted a dinner party and someone asked to smoke an e-cigarette what would he do?
"It is inconceivable that anyone I'd invite would own an electronic cigarette. But if they did I would sit close and blow smoke at them."

The full story can be found here...

BBC News - What's the etiquette with electronic cigarettes?


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My thoughts exactly... ignorance!

I think he is assuming that everyone who smokes e-cigs does so to give up analogues - I don't think for one minute that he has ever imagined that some people may actually prefer it - myself included - giving up analogues was a bonus. I now think analogues are nasty (each to their own though, i'm not ever going to bash analogue smokers) and can't see myself ever going back, even if my e-cig does die/run out and the postman is late with replacements (it happened before - I bought a disposable from the local Tesco (supermarket)).

EDIT: I will say that I initially got into vaping as a way of giving up tobacco (and a certain other smokeable plant :-/) but quickly found that it is preferable.
 
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Yeah I started for health reasons, but vaping is enjoyable in itself. I still like the taste of tobacco, but few tobaccos have flavors that pop like they do with vaping. Either that or some of the better tobaccos are just too expensive. So vaping also becomes a poor man's way to getting the same pleasures. This goes without mentioning all the other flavors. It's a smorgasbord. I can see why very moderate smokers still like vaping at 0nic or low nic.
 

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That's ludicrous...

To say they are ineffectual(effete) is a moronic and uneducated statement. Amongst my family they have been 100 percent successful and that's considering my parents are from eastern europe and both have smoked for 35-40 years. The prevailing attitude towards smoking in some parts of eastern europe is much different then it is here now. It's still not considered a big problem and you can smoke almost anywhere.

To go on to say he would blow smoke in a vapers face just proves that this guy has a screw lose. It's hard not to give your head a shake when you read something like that.
 

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Awwwwwww. That's cute. If I'm ever near Rod, I'll pat him on the head and offer him a puff on my Zenesis. Then I'll try not to call him cowardly when he hacks up both lungs.

Actually..... FORGET that. He's not touching my Zen. Maybe one of my Volt X2s... but not the purple one... or the blue one.. those are MINE. He can use one of the black ones, with a carto, he's not touching my pretty clearos.

I'm glad there's no chance I'll be anywhere near him.
 

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