Best techniques for most vapor? As in LOADS of vapor.

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VG gives significantly more vapor than PG. For hardware I find cartos the best for vapor production of anything I have tried so far. I suspect that a properly set up rba will trump that, but there is definitely a learning curve there as you are making the wick and coil yourself and it can be finicky. Having enough power to run your coil properly is necessary in every case.

If you gave a bit more information about what you are already thinking of pursuing, we could probably help you better.
 

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Been seeing some different techniques for more vapor such as special atties, blue foam, types of juice ect.
what are some of your opinions (or equipment) used to produce a TON of vapor. Like hookah smoke?
links to equipment would be nice too :)

May I ask why you want so much vapor? It's more of a hot tasteless vape IMHO and I've never even attempted a really Hott setup yet. I'd be more after flavor and quality of vape every vape. Maybe I'm missing something?
 

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I just like it. I like the effect from hookah smoke (tobacco) and wish I could get something like this as it looks similar. He has some kind of description on what he's using but I don't know what he's talking about. I would just get a reg hookah but one I want to stay away from tobacco and two my fiancé is allergic to different kinds of smoke.
 

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Flavor and vapor production are both important in my world... you need both, plus a nic hit (when you got lots of vapor you have to lower your nic mg ratio)...
These vids focus on vapor but... I'm pretty sure you get decent flavor as well... with your RDA/RBA set up with low ohms, multi-coils, and mostly if not exclusively silica thick (multi fold wicks).

When i first heard about Genesis sub 1.0 Ohms i thought it was crazy, but Bingo! its great... not as crazy as this, but more flavor than what i was getting with conventional setups.

OP, those facebook pages mention IgoL which i believe is a dripping rba or RDA.... rebuildable dripping atomizer... you also need a mechanical device that won't limit the amount of wattage generated from the batt to a sub 1.0 Ohm coil or dual coil setup (i.e. on the cheap side, a K 100, or on the $$$ side, a Chi You).
Silica wick is doubled up for holding lots of juice (with lots of VG).

This is like what hot rods were to mom's sedan...
 
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May I ask why you want so much vapor? It's more of a hot tasteless vape IMHO and I've never even attempted a really Hott setup yet. I'd be more after flavor and quality of vape every vape. Maybe I'm missing something?

Vape is warm but taste is still there and not like it seems the general assumption is. Lung hits and larger and multiple vent holes keep the temps (for the most part) in check.
 

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Been seeing some different techniques for more vapor such as special atties, blue foam, types of juice ect.
what are some of your opinions (or equipment) used to produce a TON of vapor. Like hookah smoke?
links to equipment would be nice too :)

mechanical mod with a dual coil drip atty at sub 1ohms :vapor:
 

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Flavor and vapor production are both important in my world... you need both, plus a nic hit (when you got lots of vapor you have to lower your nic mg ratio)...
These vids focus on vapor but... I'm pretty sure you get decent flavor as well... with your RDA/RBA set up with low ohms, multi-coils, and mostly if not exclusively silica thick (multi fold wicks).

When i first heard about Genesis sub 1.0 Ohms i thought it was crazy, but Bingo! its great... not as crazy as this, but more flavor than what i was getting with conventional setups.

Definitely need to lower the nicotine when chasing dragons. When I'm on that fix I vape no more than 6mg. More than that and I can easily get "nic'd out" after several hits.

In my evods and mini novas on a twist I use 12mg. Anything less (at least for now) and I'm not getting my nic fix.
 

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Vape is warm but taste is still there and not like it seems the general assumption is. Lung hits and larger and multiple vent holes keep the temps (for the most part) in check.

I've yet to experience that personally, but I've seen setups that produce enormous vapor, however the user always states the bad taste.. However I am speaking of extreme setups with multiple coils and big power running through the PV. I think there has to be a fine line between useable vapor production and vapor for the sake of big clouds.

The other thing that is partially concerning is being out in public blowing out hugeeee clouds of vapor. The last thing we need to do as vapers is to make the public annoyed like analogs. I enjoy vaping everywhere in public :). I'd bet if I was blowing out huge amounts of "smoke" at a restaurant I'd piss off quite a few.
 

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I've yet to experience that personally, but I've seen setups that produce enormous vapor, however the user always states the bad taste.. However I am speaking of extreme setups with multiple coils and big power running through the PV. I think there has to be a fine line between useable vapor production and vapor for the sake of big clouds.

The other thing that is partially concerning is being out in public blowing out hugeeee clouds of vapor. The last thing we need to do as vapers is to make the public annoyed like analogs. I enjoy vaping everywhere in public :). I'd bet if I was blowing out huge amounts of "smoke" at a restaurant I'd piss off quite a few.

Maybe has to do with the gauge of wire or not having enough wick. Only time I get an off taste is when the wick is drying out and/or I burned my wick (currently using cotton yarn). If it always had a bad taste for me, I wouldn't even bother.

Definitely have a point in regards to public impressions. If I'm amongst of fellow vapers or at a vape shop no biggie. Anywhere else, I use my twists and prefer a higher pg since it dissipates a lot faster. VG tends to hang around in the air a lot longer. Stealth vaping on high vg wouldn't even be an option.
 

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Ukeman is there anyway you could find some links for me on what I need . That way I make sure to get the right stuff.
not really because I vape Genesis at .8 to 1.0 Ohms... that is really low, and the vapor and flavor is powerful but this is with ss mesh wick and not the RDA with silica all tricked out with dual coils either.
This is a style sidious, not my style, but if i was you i would "like" those facebook pages, check out the gear these guys use, do a little "sherlock holmes" and network with them...
its like learning how to fish...you go to the guy who catches all the fish and see exactly what he does...
It does take some expertise, but you got to start somewhere...
There's a ton of vids out there, and lots of dudes who will give you some tips.
 

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Ukeman is there anyway you could find some links for me on what I need . That way I make sure to get the right stuff.

Get a cheap mechanical like the China GG and an rba like the igo-L. You're going to have to buy some 28 or 30 gauge A-1 kanthal, 2 or 3mm silica or cotton yarn wick and know how to wrap your coil and wick. A must is a multimeter to check your ohms and make sure you don't have a short. Get some juice high in vg or with at least 50%.

To reiterate, you have to know how to wrap coils, how to avoid creating a short, recognizing a short and knowing when to change your batteries. Mechanicals are fun to mess with and create endless possibilities, both good AND bad.

I don't recommend messing around with them unless you truly know what you are doing and are proficient at the things I mentioned above. There are NO safeguards in place when using mechanicals unless you buy a 2cent fuse or short stop. But, both of those I don't believe can handle the wattage you will be putting out. With a sub ohm coil and a fresh battery you will getting into the 20watts and up neighborhood.

I honestly won't let my gf use a mechanical on her own without supervision until she is fully versed in how to use it properly and can troubleshoot issues that may arise. In the wrong hands this can be very dangerous setup.

Do proceed with caution and not without doing lots of research before giving it a go.
 

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Ok so pretty much this isn't something you can just go buy? You have to build it? Maybe i can learn more as I go before trying something like this

Here i go anyway...
Like Jig says, get that gear;
-iigo-L is not expensive
-cheap mechanical; i'd look into a K 100 ($50)
- cheap multi-meter,
-28g A1 kanthal,
-3mm silica,
-some high VG juice
- IMR AW batteries (must have IMR for low resistance)

and start building coils... 4 wraps around a doubled over silica... will get you .8 to .9 ohms. there's lots of youtubes on coil building.

in my experience, silica wick coils are easier to work with than ss mesh because ss mesh is metal and causes shorts...

At the same time, keep your other gear going and just play around with this until you get it together...
 

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Ok so pretty much this isn't something you can just go buy? You have to build it? Maybe i can learn more as I go before trying something like this

Correct, you can't just go buy it. This is advanced stuff and probably deemed extreme vaping.

My advice, take your time to learn everything about vaping in general and all the options. In time, you will naturally progress to this type of style as your knowledge base and experience grows since you are interested in it anyways. I started on cig-alikes, moved on to twists, started rebuilding my vivi's and evods, vv mods and then moved on to rba's and mechanicals

I'm far from an expert of any sort, but I do take the time to thoroughly research and have friends to help speed up the learning curve. I treat this style of vaping with the same respect I do my motorcycle, knowing that I can never let my guard down. Even then, there is always a risk of something going wrong that is out of my direct control.

Good luck and enjoy the ride! :vapor:
 
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