Please Help a Noob

[yamahadude9]

Look, a bigger hit, also called throat hit or also referred to as the "inhaled feel" of the real thing, comes from two things: higher nicotine content and warmer vapor which comes from better battery PV's.

If you want a better hit, then get a good 5 volt or variable volt PV and you will also get much better consistency. I would look at the 5 volt GLV2 or a good variable volt like the Darwin. I use dual coil cartomizers on both (5 volt/VV) and the hit is very, very good. Not burning, just nice and warm.

Alright im gonna get something else i guess, when i bought the 510 last year it seemed like the hot ticket but i guess things change. Wheres a good place to get this stuff ?

Get some boge 3.0 cartomizers from Good Prophets. They'll work with your 510. Shipping is pretty fast, I think they're in NY and you'll get a much better vape.

Boge 510 Cartomizers for 510 or eGo

I believe ive already got some of those boge style and they were the harshest of all the ones ive tried, the smallest puff was hot and harsh and would make me cough. Although it could be because they were prefilled and the e liquid in them was junk. Heres some pics of em

 

[swedishfish]

I think that once you get some cartomizers and a juice you like you'll start enjoying your pv. Hold on to your dual coil cartos in case you ever get a bigger battery. I know you said you have a pass through but you could always pick up a big battery pass through so you can use your dc cartos on that. Every so often you see them on sale.

 

[swedishfish]

Well it's the same style as a boge, a cartomizer with filling. It's doubtful it is a boge because they never usually come prefilled.
Are they the cartos you got at Health Cabin? Probably all PG juice with doesn't have as much vapor and a little harsher than juice with a PG/VG mix.

You could always do a reverse taryn spin and try to remove the juice that's in there and put some of your own in.

Reverse Taryn Spin - YouTube

You won't get it all out but you can get most of it out.

 

[Pepsifreak]

Yeah some vg in there will give you the nice puff cloud and will make it a bit smoother. I also started with the titan but batt life wasn't long enough so now using a tornado from TW. I really can't see much of a difference in vapor production just batt life. I use the same 3ohm cartos on both cause my wife is using titan and I want parts interchangeable.

I've found this stuff is pretty much trial and error (for me mainly error in the beginning). I've tried the conventional atty/cart combo, boge cartos, and the clearomizer ce2's. I actually switch between the 3 but tend to go to the ce2's most of the time out of convenience and I prefer the taste. As far as cartos are concerned I prefer the carto condom filling method. Fill the plastic cap on the end of the carto a little more then half way with juice, then slowly press the threaded end of the carto down into the cap. It will push it up thru the inside tube of the carto and get absorbed into the filling. I stick my cartos on the end of a bicycle pump to get most of the juice out, works ok.

Each person has their own preference of doing things and what they like. 20-30% vg will give you a nice vapor hit and smooth out the vapor also. Some prefer more. Biggest thing IMO is keeping everything wet with juice, the dryer the atty/carto the hotter/harsher the hit.

 

[wv2win]

What to get? Well, if you still need it to be slim(er) but better batteries that are still only 3.7 volts, then look at the Riva 510 or the E-Power 510:

e-Power

If you want really nice warm vapor on a model with a lifetime warranty that is almost indestructable, then look at the 5 volt GLV2. Definitely warmer vapor and more consistent than any 3.7 volt PV: Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

If you want warmer vapor, ultimate flexibility and ultimate consistency and 21 hours of heavy vaping on one charge, then look at the variable volt Darwin: Nhaler

All of these would be much better than what you currently have, especially the last two I mentioned.

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Hi Yamahadude, As far as battery size goes, the dual coils will likely give your 510(&xl) sized batteries a hard time because of the 1.6-1.8 ohm load. Most manufacturers recommend that you have a battery AT LEAST 650mAh for a load at or under 2 ohms. Do you want an analog sized e-cig? If the size of your 510 is good try to find a cartomizer that suits you(and your batteries) around 2.2-2.6 ohms. This will give you good performance and still be ok to use with your 510 batteries. From my experience and research most standard 510 batteries are around 180mAh, most of the longer ones are around 280mAh. I am one of those people who favors the ego sized batteries because just about anything will work well on them without fear of killing them off too quickly.
On your question about the e-liquid, I do agree with the others(and your) suggestion of more, or mostly VG juice. I find the majority of PG juices I have tried are just not right for me. I dont have an allergy to them, I just enjoy the smoothness and production of vapor more with VG.
I like cartomizers best out of all the devices I have tried, and I have tried a bunch. In my experience they tend to be very consistent, convenient, very reasonably priced and give the best compromise of flavor and vapor production.
With some experimenting you will get to where you want to be. You will find you favorite device and your preferred e-liquid.
Lastly there are a bunch of vape shows available to participate in or ask questions to live people who have been where you are who are willing to help you with equipment or use questions. GPTV is my favorite.
Good Luck, Happy Vaping.

 

[yamahadude9]

I think that once you get some cartomizers and a juice you like you'll start enjoying your pv. Hold on to your dual coil cartos in case you ever get a bigger battery. I know you said you have a pass through but you could always pick up a big battery pass through so you can use your dc cartos on that. Every so often you see them on sale.

Just looked at the dual coil cartomizers again that i got from TW and they actually say right on the box they are for the titan 510, i hate when a company sells you something thats not really gonna work right ! They should know the 280mah 3.3v battery isnt adequate. Im gonna sell everything that ive got as a lot any idea what kind of money i should be able to get for it ? heres what i have

 

[JD1]

As for the duel coils, they just say 510, which is the thread type, and the xl refers to them being xl, and has no reference to a battery. That means they will fit on anything with a 510 connection. They're way too low ohm for those small batteries though. The lower the ohms, the higher the current, and those small batteries just won't hold up.

I see that you have what I use to use, which is an atty. You should be able to get a very nice vape with those. Standard 510 batteries and attys are what I used to kick the habit over a year ago. I gave them to a friend when I got an ego, but the only reason I went to an ego was for longer battery use between charges. Get some good juice and give those attys a go.

Are you vaping straight into your lungs? If so, try filling your mouth first, then open your mouth slightly and inhale a little. Experiment until you get what works for you. There's several good videos in the stickies if you haven't watched them. Good luck and I hope you get things sorted.

Edit: Answer to other questions. 1. the pt you show might work with the duel coils, but I wouldn't risk it. It would be borderline at best. 2. I don't have any idea what your equipment is worth, but I highly recommend giving it another chance before ordering new. Order a few small juice samples and proceed from there.

If you do decide to go with big batteries I recommend taking a look at the kgo. (slb ego clone). Here's why. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFZjvTyKKUk

 

[VapingRulz]

Why not just get a larger 510-type battery and you'll be able to use those cartos? A Riva will do the trick because it's 3.7v. I'd stay away from the Ego because you're looking for a stronger vape and throat hit, and the Ego is only ~3.2v.

The KR808D-1's get a bad rap on this forum sometimes and I don't understand why. If you want a strong vape without sacrificing flavor, the 808 delivers where the Ego does not. I see a lot of people equating battery size with quality, without a mention of the difference in performance. A longer-lasting battery is not what everyone is looking for; some people really are more concerned with the taste, throat hit, and warmth of vapor.

 

[wv2win]

Why not just get a larger 510-type battery and you'll be able to use those cartos? A Riva will do the trick because it's 3.7v. I'd stay away from the Ego because you're looking for a stronger vape and throat hit, and the Ego is only ~3.2v.

The KR808D-1's get a bad rap on this forum sometimes and I don't understand why. If you want a strong vape without sacrificing flavor, the 808 delivers where the Ego does not. I see a lot of people equating battery size with quality, without a mention of the difference in performance. A longer-lasting battery is not what everyone is looking for; some people really are more concerned with the taste, throat hit, and warmth of vapor.

Part of the throat hit equation is warmth of the vapor and warmer vaper comes with better batteries. A good 5 volt or variable volt PV will out perform any 3.7 volt PV when it comes to warmer vapor. And if you want really nice warm vapor, use dual coil cartos on your 5 volt or VV PV, as many of us do.

 

[Marta]

Not sure if this helps or not but some people just can't do PG, I'm one of them, I use all VG, VG based nic and VG based flavors, the PG really irritates my throat and also makes me cough but the VG is nice and smooth with tons of vapor production.

 

[DaveP]

Try some mixes. 70pg/30vg is available from Backwoods Brew. Almost all of theirs are 70/30, with the exception of some sweet flavors.

 

[calucho]

I think its very important for you to have the right set up! I definately agree with DC2 on the hands on help. I really beleive that the right mod is very important. I myself started with an Ego-T and have moved to an Icon which satisfies me more. There is a lot of personal preferences in vaping, you just have to find the right help to be able to find your fit. Good luck on the search and keep on searching this forum because its really helpful!

 

[Nunnster]

Have you tired other venders juices other then TW? I have never tried any of there stuff, but there are venders who's juices are to harsh for me. Also to much pg feels to harsh for me.

 

[swedishfish]

Contact TW and ask them about the dual coil cartos. If they don't work with the pv you purchased from them see if you can return them.

I'm not a fan of mini's but this guy has a lot of equipment that he's trying to get to work. The answer to everything isn't always to run out and get a new kit.

Maybe he can get what he has to work first. As far as I can tell he isn't even vaping yet.

 

[yamahadude9]

definitely getting a new pv but i cant decide which one, there are so many mod 5v-6v pv's available. Heres a really comprehensive list Electronic Cigarette Mods | e-Cig Mod Reviews and Comparison i think ive narrowed it down to a few, variable voltage seems like the way to go but the issues with some like the provari is they dont like dual coil cartomizers and restrict the voltage due to the low resistance. For fixed voltage i like the glv, xhaler and the silver bullet. My favorite is the xhaler but it looks like they are out of stock ?

 

[mafig]

Im a chain smoker too and have iron lungs

U must be drawing short & hard on yr e-cig..try long,slow draw on yr e-cig..my 70pg/30vg 18 mg e-liquid produce lots of vapor and very satisfying TH..hope this help U get yr "thick cool rewarding vape"..regards mafig

 

[yamahadude9]

Yep slow and long draws seems to be the ticket. I Want to thank everyone for all the help in this thread, i just ordered a buzz pro variable voltage pv and some 50/50 pg vg 24mg e liquid. From what everyone has said this should be light years ahead of the joye 510 3.3v with the 18mg pg fluid i have now. Cant wait to get this stuff and start vaping for real. Thanks again everyone !!