Beta 5 510/801 fusion thread

[Iken]

It's so great to see you guys too! I missed ya's so much! Every chance I got, I tried peeking at an email but my wife was on serious guard

It's about time. Last I heard from yuo, you had been up all night and it sounded like you needed a little R&R. I'm glad you got some.

So are the platinum better than the gold 510s?

Oh man yes! Crashed for about 13 or so hours that day lol.
Personally, I don't think so. I don't like the way they retain liquid all that much and the build isn't the greatest. Apparently it's only my opinion as they are the hottest sellers in the store. With the Gold's, I had much more control over the development. They are well thought out and built to last. The liquid transfer was spot on with the design. The Drip-style 510 is an upgrade that we worked off of the Gold label as the Fusion is to the Platinum. They'll be coming in at 2.5 with and without Drip tips The break-through with the drip style has opened the door for HV cartomizers, they just need a few more kinks worked out to operate under extreme conditions.

Hey, Iken, good to see you on the boards again. My family sent me back to the office today, I think they had their fill, ha-ha!

The "hype" part of one of my comments came from early reviewer's statements that they were getting four plus fills out of them. I got three and the third wasn't that great.

I know all about the tendency of these two juices to ruin cartos. I've been battling it for some time. I had hoped that these would be different, but they were in-line with others.

If I use an atty, I never run in to this problem but cartos are easier for me to work with. Unfortunately, I haven't found any that can go the distance with these two juices.

I will say that the flavor and vapor production of the 801 fusions is pretty impressive. As you know, I bought quite a few more after my first order.

As for the CE2s, they're not any better. They can't wick the juices well enough to be effective. I've been a part of the syringe mod movement and even those can't go the distance.

It looks like my only options are to clean cartos (I do it all the time but I hate it), throw them away when they go bad and start fresh (do-able but certainly not ideal) or stick to attys (which is probably my last choice).

At the end of the day, I'm right back where I started. I've got two juices that I really enjoy and helped me finally kick my analog habit but my favorite way to experience them is a pain-in-the-.... I guess I'm just S.O.L. for now, ha-ha.

LOL IA! It's always great to see you too!
Ahh IA I know it's hard man. Especially when you find that special juice that does the job and that helped you through trials. It's the technology of cartomizers that just aren't agreeing with the favored juice. It sounds like Grimmer is on to something about playing with the liquid levels. Maybe try adding just a tiny bit of water to the liquid so it can burn more smoothly or a little more PG and less VG. VG is a sugar too so maybe without harming the flavor a bit of water or PG will help. What your really doing is just taking a bit more sugar out of the equation so the liquid can transfer and have a little less harsh burning. I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself in awkward stances. I'm watching the kids today

 

[5cardstud]

Great because my package will be arriving soon (Ikenvapes fast shipping) and I couldn't pass up the price when I saw the others out of stock. I'm one Happy customer or I guess I should say Ikenvape family member.

 

[Switched]

I was able to do an autopsy today of the last fusion Blackberry Menthol. I had misplaced it so I am sorry for the delay. Better late then never.

This carto has an exposed coil (no wick) wrapped with the fire ......ant blanket. Although it can clearly be seen that I burnt through the protective sheathing, it did not reach the polyfill. This carto never went above 4.2V therefore my recommendation is to keep 'em at 3.7 or 3.2V.

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[Iken]

Great because my package will be arriving soon (Ikenvapes fast shipping) and I couldn't pass up the price when I saw the others out of stock. I'm one Happy customer or I guess I should say Ikenvape family member.

Totally Family member

I was able to do an autopsy today of the last fusion Blackberry Menthol. I had misplaced it so I am sorry for the delay. Better late then never.

This carto has an exposed coil (no wick) wrapped with the fire ......ant blanket. Although it can clearly be seen that I burnt through the protective sheathing, it did not reach the polyfill. This carto never went above 4.2V therefore my recommendation is to keep 'em at 3.7 or 3.2V.
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Ah indeed Switcher!
Would you say that this burn-age came from the voltage or liquid viscosity or combined?

 

[Switched]

Voltage if you ask me. If I remember correctly that was with my old PG liquids. Mind you in testing we do put 'em through their paces. No wick = no burnt wick taste. If I recall one of the many posts I have read, the wick helps maintain the coil cool. Is the lack of a wick a culprit here? I do not know. The first one was accidentally destroyed while doing the autopsy. So I have no comparative notes. The protective blanket may not wick sufficiently, who knows?

 

[mwa102464]

Voltage if you ask me. If I remember correctly that was with my old PG liquids. Mind you in testing we do put 'em through their paces. No wick = no burnt wick taste. If I recall one of the many posts I have read, the wick helps maintain the coil cool. Is the lack of a wick a culprit here? I do not know. The first one was accidentally destroyed while doing the autopsy. So I have no comparative notes. The protective blanket may not wick sufficiently, who knows?

Funny thing because as of the last few weeks I have been tying extra wick around the bridge of my 306 Attys Switched as a little test

 

[Switched]

I de-wick my 306s = much much better. Remember my comment was directed at carto builds. Dripping ensures we remain wet, unless ya vape 'em dry though.

 

[mwa102464]

I de-wick my 306s = much much better. Remember my comment was directed at carto builds. Dripping ensures we remain wet, unless ya vape 'em dry though.

I know you where on Cartos, but I wanted to just throw it out there when I saw your post, please add some more if you would after reading mine if you would be kind enough to do so,

I got ya and so do many others remove the wick and even some the bridge, but I've been wrapping a good bit of extra silica around my Bridges on my 306 LR & HV and I'm using a Bottom feeding VV Mod, I wont mention which because no need, but I'm finding Switcher that the bridge is holding more liquid and longer, I don't have to squeeze my bottle and feed as much juice since the wicks hold on to more liquid with this set up and keep the bridge from getting quite as hot it seems, allowing for the Atty not to run as hot it seems as well and the wicks stay sopping wet and don't burn,,,,,,,, maybe I'm nut's, wrong,even crazy but it seems to be working for me I also seem to get more flavor in my vape when I do this and can taste my liquids better,,,,,,, your thoughts again ???? still the same, different, more, please

 

[Switched]

It does make sense in some sense. If we look at the purpose the cart served (maintaining the atty wet).

 

[grimmer255]

THANK YOU SO MUCH, ISAIC !!!!!!!...... I've been looking forward to getting the fusion 801's for two weeks now..... I ordered these up the other day and poof in my mail box today, just like magic..... The vapor and draw is so niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice....... I love these cartos so much I got 15 in one shot... with a side order of a "semi" 801 attie..... after christmas I'm ordering me up some more of these.



KEEP ON

 

[cos]

hey can any of you guys tell me how to de-wick a 306 atty? is it that much better? are you saying take that mesh thing out with that stringy thin stuff inside. is that the wick? and what about that metal piecethat shapes the mesh? sorry if i am being confusing here but i think you guys know what i mean. Cause i have no idea what i even just said Thanks for any help.

cos

 

[IndustrialAction]

hey can any of you guys tell me how to de-wick a 306 atty? is it that much better? are you saying take that mesh thing out with that stringy thin stuff inside. is that the wick? and what about that metal piecethat shapes the mesh? sorry if i am being confusing here but i think you guys know what i mean. Cause i have no idea what i even just said Thanks for any help.

cos

I wouldn't go messing around with a 306. De-wicking and de-bridging is usually done on 510 and 801s. The wick is the white string running through the coil and the bridge is the metal 'v' and the silver mesh that covers it. I'm sure there are some that recommend it on 306s but it would pop (most likely) the instant I fired up my Phidias.

 

[Switched]

The 306s can be de-wicked without any problem, and no they do not pop when current is applied to them.

With a toothpick gently push the wick (white stuff under the bridge) to the other side. Then gently tease out the wick using tweezers. I normally do not de-wick my atties, but the 306 seems to run hotter and more prone to burning the wick then my other atties. I have carried out the procedure on both LR and HV 306s.

FWIW, de-wicking a 306 is probably easier than any other atty, because the wick is exposed.

 

[IndustrialAction]

It is easier than any other atty, I'll give you that. I have popped 306s at 3.7 and 5v. Without the wick, the coil drys out faster. I learned my lesson pretty quickly though.

 

[namle]

Hello All
The fusion looks pretty sweet but i have one question. When i saw the picture on your site it has LR on the side, are they LR carto's?

 

[Switched]

At 2Ohms it does indeed make 'em LR at IkenVape.

 

[5cardstud]

Hello All
The fusion looks pretty sweet but i have one question. When i saw the picture on your site it has LR on the side, are they LR carto's?

I would say yes. On the site it says: (Recommended for 3.4-4.2V) and I've noticed that's where they perform the best. I didn't see that before but they do say LR IKV on the side of them. These are my favorite cartomizer out of all the ones I've tried.

You closed the Attn: Beta thread so I'll just put it here I'm ordering some more Fusions, I might as well stock up.

I posted at the same time switched but I only use one finger so your faster than me.

 

[Iken]

UGH I know 5Card, it's not you my good man. I was on with Tech support as this problem has been occurring since B Friday. They said it's due to high volume, but didn't have an answer when my reply was that I am paying for the full package that includes Unlimited bandwidth and the fact other companies from the same source is not having these lags. It's almost impossible to work with the site in this condition. Took all morning just to get these things listed. Needless to say, I'm considering provider alternatives as we speak. I locked out the thread just to keep it simple when there's a post it can be found easily.

 

[Iken]

hey can any of you guys tell me how to de-wick a 306 atty? is it that much better? are you saying take that mesh thing out with that stringy thin stuff inside. is that the wick? and what about that metal piecethat shapes the mesh? sorry if i am being confusing here but i think you guys know what i mean. Cause i have no idea what i even just said Thanks for any help.

cos

Hiya Cos,
Alot of folks have taken a shining to doing it if the wick becomes burnt and gives off a strong acid like harsh taste. I haven't tried it yet as I didn't come across problem as of yet.

 

[FeistyAlice]

I know you where on Cartos, but I wanted to just throw it out there when I saw your post, please add some more if you would after reading mine if you would be kind enough to do so,

I got ya and so do many others remove the wick and even some the bridge, but I've been wrapping a good bit of extra silica around my Bridges on my 306 LR & HV and I'm using a Bottom feeding VV Mod, I wont mention which because no need, but I'm finding Switcher that the bridge is holding more liquid and longer, I don't have to squeeze my bottle and feed as much juice since the wicks hold on to more liquid with this set up and keep the bridge from getting quite as hot it seems, allowing for the Atty not to run as hot it seems as well and the wicks stay sopping wet and don't burn,,,,,,,, maybe I'm nut's, wrong,even crazy but it seems to be working for me I also seem to get more flavor in my vape when I do this and can taste my liquids better,,,,,,, your thoughts again ???? still the same, different, more, please

MWA, I'm with ya on the benefits of the wick on the 306. To me the native extra wick going up to the bridge is an added benefit especially for bottom feeders. The only thing I use a debridged atty for is testing several flavors in a row, as they can be dryburned quickly.

Getting back to point, I read, at least a month ago about you adding wick to the 306. You gave a description of what you do but I didn't quite understand and asked for a picture. Can you please explain in a little more detail how you do it? Do you run the wick through the arch and tie it on one side or perhaps a figure eight through the arch and then knot on one side? Sure would appreciate more detailed instructions.

I'm using primarily bottom feeders and I think the more wick the better, especially with thicker VG juices. I'm only getting about 24 hours use out of LR306 before having to boil, due to the juices I use. Every 4 or so boils I do a very careful dry burn. Haven't ever popped an atty dry burning but I'm extra careful with the LR306.

Thanks, Alice