LOL, this is the UK, pretty much bankrupt and in massive debt for the next few generations (thanks to "Prudance McIdiot").
Tax, tax and some more tax is all we need to fear...and in that scenario...hello Eastmall/Heavensgifts etc.
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LOL, this is the UK, pretty much bankrupt and in massive debt for the next few generations (thanks to "Prudance McIdiot").
Tax, tax and some more tax is all we need to fear...and in that scenario...hello Eastmall/Heavensgifts etc.
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Cluster, you made my day . . . I can not stop laughing.
"I'm sure there isn't the smallest possibility that big tobacco could get away with making e-cigs more dangerous on purpose, not in these days."
"I'm sure there isn't the smallest possibility that big tobacco could get away with making e-cigs more dangerous on purpose, not in these days."
I called my local smokers shop to see if they had any e-cigs in stock because my first order for a starter kit is delayed from China. The worker there told me that the owner decided not to stock them because the FDA is trying to ban them.
i dont think they would be able ( well they could but ) to tax the batt,atty or cart itself besides the sales tax ... i think where we will get raped so to speak is the juice!!! the will tax the crap outa of that if they consider it a tobacco product
hey any one with me for making a couple 55GAL drums full of e-juice?? (kidding) but not really.... anyone? lol
i dont think they would be able ( well they could but ) to tax the batt,atty or cart itself besides the sales tax ... i think where we will get raped so to speak is the juice!!! the will tax the crap outa of that if they consider it a tobacco product
hey any one with me for making a couple 55GAL drums full of e-juice?? (kidding) but not really.... anyone? lol
Hell, tax isn't a bad thing for e-juice. The massive taxes wouldn't hit it for a few years, and if it's proven to be a safer alternative, I'm sure they'd keep taxes lower than with analogs to promote their use. I mean, RYO/pipe tobacco, snus, and cigars aren't taxed heavily if at all. (BT would love this if they actually got into the market LIKE THEY SHOULD FFS)
As for the 55 GAL drums of e-juice, sign me up.
Okay, I could be wrong, but by my calculations ... 27.5 gallons vaping 30 ml / week is about a 65 year supply ... give or take. LOL
Anybody know PG's shelf life? I almost bought 1/2 gal. But I thought I should research the DIY thread first. Haven't mixed my own yet.
Since most juice is said to have a shelf life of 2 years I would say it's safe to say PG will last that long too.
I would love to know if there are any vapers here that have been doing it for 2 years that could back this up.
I would love to know if there are any vapers here that have been doing it for 2 years that could back this up.
Yes, Cluster, I've noticed - scanning backyard for potential tobacco plant garden area - that in similar mode of force-feeding citizens cigarettes, the pendulum has swung to the far other side. For BT or B who-have-you its always about the bottom line. I've not followed it but I believe BT has been branching out to more politically correct endeavors, adopting a benevolent persona.
Dow Chemical's website states:
PG USP/EP has a shelf life of two years when stored below 40°C (104°F) in closed containers away from sources of ultraviolet (UV) light.
A 55-gallon drum might be overkill.
PG USP/EP has a shelf life of two years when stored below 40°C (104°F) in closed containers away from sources of ultraviolet (UV) light.
A 55-gallon drum might be overkill.
I read somewhere on here that lobelia can be used instead of nicotine and that one or two companies are thought to be already using it. I think that JC was one of them.
For Juice the only thing you have to worry about is the nicotine ! you can buy it in the USA as CAS-15115 ( number might be wrong ,from memory !! ) it's approved as a WAIT <<<<<< PESTICIDE , the PG and VG are already FDA approved and son are the flavors As far as I know on the flavors ? )
Te machanical parts can be shipped as well " Mechanical parts / metal parts / machine parts " and will NEVER be stopped ( i MFG in China and have no problems with machine parts )
Anyhow these is NO WAY that you wont be able to get what you want , it might be technically illegal but broken up into pieces there aint a damn thing they could do IMO !!
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Te machanical parts can be shipped as well " Mechanical parts / metal parts / machine parts " and will NEVER be stopped ( i MFG in China and have no problems with machine parts )
Anyhow these is NO WAY that you wont be able to get what you want , it might be technically illegal but broken up into pieces there aint a damn thing they could do IMO !!
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Search by CAS: 54-11-5 , it makes a big difference where the - is !
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chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/54-11-5.html
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chemexper.com/chemicals/supplier/cas/54-11-5.html
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Wow, that's an interesting thought! Big Tobacco vs China... 10 years ago, I would've banked on Big Tobacco winning the e-cig battle (even though e-cigs didn't exist then, but for the sake of hypothesis)... now, I'm not so sure...
Hey, let's face reality... China owns us right now! Get over it! And if China and it's products disappeared tomorrow... well... there'd be a whole bunch of empty Walmarts 'round here! The only way we can truly make sure that e-cigs aren't banned nationwide is to show the Chinese what a lucrative market they have by promoting/converting others to vaping.
That's right! Let's use capitalism to woo the commies to our side... ironic, isn't it?
Man... I love a two-edged sword... a pointy one, at that!
Hey, let's face reality... China owns us right now! Get over it! And if China and it's products disappeared tomorrow... well... there'd be a whole bunch of empty Walmarts 'round here! The only way we can truly make sure that e-cigs aren't banned nationwide is to show the Chinese what a lucrative market they have by promoting/converting others to vaping.
That's right! Let's use capitalism to woo the commies to our side... ironic, isn't it?
Man... I love a two-edged sword... a pointy one, at that!
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