Bipolar disorder. My story, smoking.

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Oh, I think it's all well and great to keep this thread in the general e-smoking section. If anything, it should stay where it is just because of the awareness and whatnot. I thought I was reading in a previous post about someone not wanting to specify details or something. And there's more detailed responses I might've wanted to give but I refrained in this thread because I guess I'd feel they'd be too revealing (though really, who the heck would be able to identify me here...but I do feel like I've already run around naked here to some degree). But yeah, here's the Wrecked and Bonkers area if anyone's interested, but like I said, crickets. And by crickets, I mean me posting stupid annoying crap.
Wellness: Wrecked & Bonkers
Antipsychotics are just used to sedate crazies so they won't go running around infecting other people. Antipsychotics are commonly administered through blow guns at a safe distance by a trained professional. This was all on a National Geographic special. This special also featured Fire Trucks. And now I'll seem like all I watch is Family Guy:
 

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It's good to have an ally. Weird deal..my doc prescribed Abilify to me a few years ago. I took it at night with just Lithium I think. In under 60 seconds I was throwing up like crazy. I took it again the next night not knowing, same thing. Called my doc and he said take them an hour apart. Abilify started me on the rapid cycling nightmare, had to get off.
Glad you got through it Ed.

Thanks Phil (that's right isn't it?). It's funny how we each can react so differently to meds. I used to have a lot of stomach problems, yet Abiliify does nothing to it. Lithium was horrible for me. Couldn't stop itching and didn't help my mood swings either. SSRIs are what really get to me. Last time I took one I started getting homicidal thoughts. Went off it immediately and all was well again.

As far as people knowing I have a mental illness. Fine with me. I think this thread is great for awareness and has the added benefit of being like a support group. I just wish more people with mental illness vaped. Seems smoking and MI go hand in hand too often.

Flarg, that clip is great. I don't like Family Guy, but that was genius.
 

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Doesn't look like "wellness & wrecked" has as much activity as this little thread...I could be wrong, of course...
I know, right? Whether that's a good or bad thing, I dunno...but it gets lonely for me when I post and dance among the crickets. jj2 is kind enough to entertain me briefly, but that's not one person's responsibility, it's all of ECF's responsibility to entertain me! :p
 

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Glenn Close has an organization Bring Change 2 Mind about stopping stigma in MI. I mean Catherine Zeta Jones has BPII. Everyone knows it and what a spokesperson. :) Carrie Fisher, Stephen Fry, .... Cavett, I think Britney Spears.
Most people don't care, some do, some don't get it. I think we all should be proud of ourselves for seeking treatment and fighting back. This ain't no walk in the park.
Effexor made me itch for two hours every night then stop. 8-10, I could almost time it. No rash but itching all over. Really itching. Told my doc. "not going to stop we have to get you off this." How does a drug know what time it is? :)
 

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As far as people knowing I have a mental illness. Fine with me. I think this thread is great for awareness and has the added benefit of being like a support group. I just wish more people with mental illness vaped. Seems smoking and MI go hand in hand too often.

I go back and forth. I want people to be aware and sometimes I am very outspoken about what I go through. Other times I want to hide it and myself away. There are many things I've wanted to say in this thread but I know several people locally that are here on ECF so I keep my mouth shut. I probably shouldn't care but not matter what there is still that stigma attached. Then again the more open we are about our struggles the more the general public can understand and more people with MI would speak out. There is also the fact that if someone doesn't like me because I have issues with my brain chemistry then they can just go take a hike. I don't have room in my little world for closed-minded people.

As for vaping and MI, I think there are plenty of vapers with it. Just as many as with smoking. I just think that people are afraid to speak out about it here.
 

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I first thought when you guys were mentioning MI I thought you were referring to Michigan. :lol: I do have lots of legitimately crazy relatives there it's for sure...
I never knew about Catherine Zeta-Jones, and I certainly didn't know she had connections to Michigan. Oh, sorry, mental illness (MI). :p Gosh, she's beautiful.
And yeah, Ms. Spears...she sure is something.
When I knew the end was near I cut off all my hair. And by all my hair I guess I really mean to my ears, though that meant at the time doing a 25" chop. I hoped it would make me feel better, but it just made me feel worse. And it was a painful constant reminder. Still have the ponytail hiding away somewhere. 8 years later I think I've grown it all back. If I didn't have a 10" chop 2 years ago it would be even longer today! :p
 

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How does a drug know what time it is? :)
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Good thread, me and my wife suffer from a mental illness.
She has bi-polar and I have GAD/Panic disorder, two totally different things.
Sometimes I can't leave my house its so bad, my mind puts me into a state of worry (about everything).

been dealing with the .... for around 9 years now.

Just do your best to hang in there and enjoy what you have, take a few puffs of some sweet juice a pass it on..
 

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GAD is the worst. Are you being treated for it, Flexxx?

Mookie, I admire people that can keep their disease hidden but, as you can see by this thread, I'm not that good at it. I was doing pretty good at my last job but then had a nervous breakdown, yes at work, and was out for two months. Kinda blew my cover. That's when my diagnosis went to bipolar.

me...How did you diagnose me
doc..Phil you worked muscles you haven't worked in ten years for 14 hours a day, 30 days straight with little sleep.
me...Yeah but don't people with bipolar spend tons of money?
doc..You were living at Lowes, buying weedeaters, shrubs, gardening tools and you live in a RENT HOUSE.
me...Hypersexual?
doc..What did you say to your neighbor, again?
me...Well, there was that. Bad judgement?
doc..You came to your last appointment wearing a do-rag Phil!!! Fifty year olds don't wear do-rags....
me..doc, is that table new?
doc...no.
me..I've never seen that chair either.
doc..sigh.

a song about Lithium
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I have to talk. I've been treated for depression for 30 years. Ten years ago I had a meltdown at work, went home and called my psychiatrist and her office manager said come, now! I saw my doc and she wrote a note to work that I needed 2-4 months off. She told me to go home, rest, and get 15 minutes of sunlight a day.

Two days later I opened my door to go outside and saw opportunities to fix this rental property weedy, ten year neglected yard. I didn't know it but I was full blown manic For 30 days I felt better than a mountain of ....... could never touch. I would have worked an 18 year old athlete till they gave up. I spent money like a kid in a candy store. I hauled huge limestone rock from a creek out back for landscaping. I know nothing about carpentry but built a small porch. I talked fast when asking two neighbors if I could detail their cars. I told one, half my age, that she had a great .... This is why mania can get you in trouble.

My neighbor, leaning on a shovel in his worse off yard said he saw me and it inspired him. He said he had to go do some stuff and would be back around 4, it was 10 a.m. I said hey man I love this weedeater can I work on your yard? Well, OK. When he got home his yard looked like a putting green at Pebble Beach. We became friends. Until his girlfriend told me I didn't know that he was the best guitar slinger in Austin(I'm a drummer).

For 30 days I was one of those people we meet in life that have this special spark that attracts curiosity and admiration. I was hitting on all cylinders and then some.

What goes up must come down. A thirty day bottomless pit of despair followed. If I only had a stale small package of crackers to eat I might survive two days on them because I hadn't taken a shower in three weeks and getting to a store was impossible. So, I was on first name basis with pizza delivery people.

95% of people with bipolar deal with depression 95% of the time and the rest, mania. Some suffer almost exclusively mania. Mania progresses, my fun mania left untreated could morph into psychotic mania. One out of 5 people who are bipolar commit suicide. It's the worst mental illness in this regard. Some people say one in four.

My brother and I were close, he died of lung cancer a year and a half ago. I know the process. Two months later I was part of a layoff at a job I had been at for ten years, seven to go to retire. It was too much because stress is my worst enemy. I haven't worked or looked for work, it's too much. At the urging of my doc, therapist, and several close friends with mental illness, I filed for disability. In my wildest dreams I never thought I would do. If this process drags out too long I'll be homeless.

I didn't ask for this disorder and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I like adding things up so in the last 30 years I think I've taken 80 medications adding up to 30,000 pills. I don't totally rely on big pharma but they own me anyway.

In the midst of this madness sometimes sleeping 16 hours a day I quit smoking with an e cig. I feel hope. I did good. My best friend of thirty years, when he hears me moaning about life always tries to put a fresh coat of paint on the sh$thouse. We were talking on the phone and I said, R, I can't do this. He encouraged me. I said no listen ....... it, I can't do this! His voice changed. He said Phil, after seeing what you've been through the last three and a half years, I don't think I would have made it.

If you have a friend or loved one with mental illness, learn all you can. Support them unconditionally. Realize that they aren't crazy, lazy, shouldn't take those pills or it's all in their mind. If they would just ___________ they wouldn't have those problems. If they improve gently nudge them to maybe go outside, take a walk, see a friend. If they are ready they will.

If I lose an arm in an accident people come running to help. If I have heart surgery visitors come to see me. When I was in a locked psych ward for an attempted suicide, nobody called, nobody has ever asked, what was it like. What do we hear? Your psychiatrist is just taking your money, get off those pills, you don't seem bipolar to me. You just need to ____________. Works for me every time.

I'm not a bipolar person, I'm a person who happens to have bipolar disorder. We are good at hiding our illness. If I met you on the street today you wouldn't have a clue.

I have a blog and could write this there but my job in life is to tell this story so people that don't know may get a better idea from my story. I am so proud of quitting smoking but it pales in comparison to getting slammed hundreds of times over the years and somehow managing another day of dreaming of being 28 again, before this journey began.

If you've read this highly personal novel, thanks. Almost everyone knows someone that's bipolar. If you weren't sure exactly what that was, I hope this helps. Now I must clean my vivi nova.
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Thank you. I think that this may just be the most awesome post that I have ever read here at ECF.
I can't believe that I am just now seeing it but am glad that I finally did.
 

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Yes, taking some meds for it but it still gets me 50% of the time.

I have GAD and SAD and suffered from agoraphobia previous to starting my medication. You may want to think about taking something else. I also found that counselling along side the meds helped a super amount, as it gave me some coping skills that really help bringing my levels of anxiety down and helps to avoid full blown panic attacks.
 

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Thanks Starrlamia, I have been through tons of meds like a lab rat.
I ended up lexapro since it was the only one to actaully help without all the side effects.

It usually new things that will trigger my anxiety, non smoking is a big issue right now.

Trying my best to not smoke and vape on, but with my worry my mind keeps telling me that the vap is going
to give me some bad reaction, I know its not true but my mind likes to argue with me...if that makes sense LOL
 

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I love juice on my hands! Gives me that extra kick! I specifically deal with filling and such when I'm most in need of a nicotine fix, since I know there will be drool (of course, I do need to have at least something working at the time while I do my filling). Granted, this is with pre-mixed juices and not straight/undiluted nicotine. Straight nicotine on the skin is bad.
 

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I love juice on my hands! Gives me that extra kick! I specifically deal with filling and such when I'm most in need of a nicotine fix, since I know there will be drool (of course, I do need to have at least something working at the time while I do my filling). Granted, this is with pre-mixed juices and not straight/undiluted nicotine. Straight nicotine on the skin is bad.

you are braver than me haha! Im always paranoid about having too much there and oding on nicotine (not sure how possible that actually is...) Im a bit of a hypochondriac....
 
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