Well i just got my first Slim style ecig as i found it cumbersome carrying my VV Buzz around sometimes and i went with a 84mm and 105mm auto batterys from MVS with Standard 808 cartomizers.I really do enjoy it, it just feels more natural and easier to carry.But with all the Buzz on the Bloog it caught my attention as so many have been raving about the BMF cartos.And i will purchase some of those to try out as i am running low on cartos.But For those that have tried the standard and bloog are they that big of difference in battery's.Say the bloog 72mm vs my standard 84 Just looking for insight from ppl that have used both
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Hopefully someone else can answer your question better. Bloog batteries are regulated at 3.6v, I'm not familiar with MVS but I think most standard 808 type batteries are regulated at 4.2v. The Bloog maxxfusion cartos are made to perform best with the lower regulated voltage but they will work on standard 808 batteries. Again I really am not the one who should be answering your question but I hated that you were going unanswered. Maybe Frick or Gardner will be along soon to help you.
I may not be the best person to answer, there are more technical people than I. But here's what I know...
All 808 bats should work, just not as well as a BMF bat.
For instance, people have compared BMF bats and cartos, vs V4L bats and cartos. Mix and matching. All combinations still work, but not as well as when the same company bats and cartos are combined.
I'm not exactly sure about the mha, whatever, but the BFM cartos go through quality control to be between 2.4 and 2.6 ohms. V4L cartos are 3.0 ohms. The BMF bats have a quicker switch, and consequently more room for battery cells, but the total voltage will differ if using a different carto/bat.
So your other company bats will work with BMF cartos, probably still better than any older style carto. But you'll get even BETTER performance when using the BMF bat that the cartos were designed to be used with.
Does that help?
All 808 bats should work, just not as well as a BMF bat.
For instance, people have compared BMF bats and cartos, vs V4L bats and cartos. Mix and matching. All combinations still work, but not as well as when the same company bats and cartos are combined.
I'm not exactly sure about the mha, whatever, but the BFM cartos go through quality control to be between 2.4 and 2.6 ohms. V4L cartos are 3.0 ohms. The BMF bats have a quicker switch, and consequently more room for battery cells, but the total voltage will differ if using a different carto/bat.
So your other company bats will work with BMF cartos, probably still better than any older style carto. But you'll get even BETTER performance when using the BMF bat that the cartos were designed to be used with.
Does that help?
Thanks Guys one last question,im trying to save money as it is tight for me right now so i as much as i would love to have the kit with the PCC ,i will end up just getting one battery and some carts.The charger is the same from a Standard Kr to the Bloog Correct?
Your standard kr808 charger should work fine with the bloog but as I stated earlier I'm not familiar with MVS so I can't promise you that is the truth. 
I'm clueless here but are you guys saying the bloog and the v4l are both kr808's and charger/batts/cartos could be interchangeable? Obviously on a tight budget trying to get something slim to try.
Yes, that is correct. You can use v4l chargers with Bloogs batts and vice versa.
Their cartos work on a Bloog. Bloog MaxxFusion cartos will fit on a v4l battery, but they don't work as well as they do on a Bloog battery.
Their cartos work on a Bloog. Bloog MaxxFusion cartos will fit on a v4l battery, but they don't work as well as they do on a Bloog battery.
so...Bloog wins~ehh?
I'm trying to pick some things up off classies but I'm almost thinking it's cheaper to just order the Bloog starter kit, of course it wouldn't be long before I'd NEED that uber-cool pcc!
I'm trying to pick some things up off classies but I'm almost thinking it's cheaper to just order the Bloog starter kit, of course it wouldn't be long before I'd NEED that uber-cool pcc!
Compare the prices of the individual pieces vs. a kit first. I think some of the kits are still priced higher than the parts.
The thing with BMF cartos on a VK battery is just that the vk isn't regulated so it can run around 4.2v and the BMF carto needs 3.6v. So the juices burn easily on a fresh vk until the charge runs down some. After that it's fine.
The thing with BMF cartos on a VK battery is just that the vk isn't regulated so it can run around 4.2v and the BMF carto needs 3.6v. So the juices burn easily on a fresh vk until the charge runs down some. After that it's fine.
I'm thinking a bloog batt and charger to see if i like it..oh and blank carts..which is almost $40..the kit is $44...
In the classies there's an offer for a basic bloog set up but a bunch of prefilled cartos justifying the $80 price tag, and honestly I'm happy with KBV joose so it'd be a waste for me.
edit~~~thanks for your help starsong. greatly appreciated
In the classies there's an offer for a basic bloog set up but a bunch of prefilled cartos justifying the $80 price tag, and honestly I'm happy with KBV joose so it'd be a waste for me.
edit~~~thanks for your help starsong. greatly appreciated
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BMF batteries are regulated and give a constant 3.6V.
General kr808d-1 batteries are not regulated and start giving out 4.2V when fresh out of the charger, drop quickly to 3.7V though most of the charge, and then a little lower at the end.
That being said, although initially there were some issues with using BMF cartos with other kr808d- batteries, that seems to have been overcome, and there are no issues anymore.
I use BMF cartos with other kr808d-1 bats without problems.
Sometimes, with freshlly charged bats, I take it easy in the first couple of puffs, but that's it.
General kr808d-1 batteries are not regulated and start giving out 4.2V when fresh out of the charger, drop quickly to 3.7V though most of the charge, and then a little lower at the end.
That being said, although initially there were some issues with using BMF cartos with other kr808d- batteries, that seems to have been overcome, and there are no issues anymore.
I use BMF cartos with other kr808d-1 bats without problems.
Sometimes, with freshlly charged bats, I take it easy in the first couple of puffs, but that's it.
I'm thinking a bloog batt and charger to see if i like it..oh and blank carts..which is almost $40..the kit is $44...
In the classies there's an offer for a basic bloog set up but a bunch of prefilled cartos justifying the $80 price tag, and honestly I'm happy with KBV joose so it'd be a waste for me.
edit~~~thanks for your help starsong. greatly appreciated
Happy to help when I can.
If you do order, maybe wait til Monday or Tues til the site it working better. I tried to enter my discount code tonite and it wouldn't take it. I heard they were working on that issue.
I wonder what itll be like now the mf cartos are up to 2,8 ohm.... My boge 2,8's are kinda bland on the mf batt...
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