FDA Blu Ecigs UK chief expects few e-cigarette sellers to survive

[Vocalek]

We aren't imagining things. Even the tobacco companies believe that the FDA regulations will preserve the market for tobacco companies. Straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c082...44feabdc0.html?siteedition=intl#axzz32r6HA1MF

The number of e-cigarette sellers in the UK will plunge from “hundreds” to fewer than 10 over the next four years, according to the head of one of Britain’s biggest e-cigarette groups.


Jacob Fuller, chief executive of Blu Ecigs UK – which was bought by US tobacco group Lorillard last year – said the number of e-cigarette companies would be “vastly lower” in a few years’ time.

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[stevegmu]

I don't see how FDA regulations will impact the UK...

 

[Stosh]

I don't see how FDA regulations will impact the UK...

Vaping is under attack world wide. The FDA deeming regulations that were proposed are more draconian that the regulations currently being proposed or enacted in the UK. The UK recognizes the benefits of vaping more realistically than the US FDA.

 

[stevegmu]

Vaping is under attack world wide. The FDA deeming regulations that were proposed are more draconian that the regulations currently being proposed or enacted in the UK. The UK recognizes the benefits of vaping more realistically than the US FDA.

I know. I have trouble with safety caps...

 

[EddardinWinter]

I don't see how FDA regulations will impact the UK...

I know. I have trouble with safety caps...

You don't think the number of vendors who are able to sell in the US will impact people in the UK? You don't see that at all...well then riddle me this: Do you think the article is wrong? If so, why?

And I see that you are still sticking to the "safety caps are all we are gonna be regulated with" stance, eh? Well Steve, you are consistent, I will grant you that!

 

[stevegmu]

I can't access the article. Do many people in the UK buy from the US? I thought most bought from FastTech...
I go by what has been published by the FDA, not on speculation...

 

[Stosh]

The new and improved "FDA Safety Caps", 100% effective. You simply crazy glue the caps on the bottles...

 

[DC2]

I go by what has been published by the FDA, not on speculation...

Does this imply that you trust what the FDA says, word for word?
Because that would make your posting history make a lot more sense to me.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Does this imply that you trust what the FDA says, word for word?
Because that would make your posting history make a lot more sense to me.

What is published for regulations is a lot more than child caps. It doesn't take hundreds of pages to specify child-proof caps. That comment "only what is published" is completely disconnected from the reality of the proposed regulations.

I don't care if Steve reacts or not, but I don't understand why he feels the need to ridicule everyone who does.



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[Oliver]

The EU regulations are pretty severe - in the UK we will have vastly fewer e-cigarette companies than we do now. FYI, we have a thriving home-grown e-cigarette industry currently.

However, we are at least likely to have some selling 2nd/3rd generation devices.

In the US it's not at all clear that this will happen, especially when one considers that the FDA believes there will be only between 20 and 80 PRODUCTS left on the market. Many observers believe that under the current trajectory, these will all be cigalikes.

Fasttech doesn't do too well in the UK. Being a small country, many of their packages get stopped for tax at customs.

 

[Stosh]

Seems almost like the US and EU are competing to see which can hamstring the vaping industry the most and/or the fastest. Science be damned.

I'm almost afraid to ponder which will be the first to consider jail time for vaping in public...

 

[Anjaffm]

Seems almost like the US and EU are competing to see which can hamstring the vaping industry the most and/or the fastest. Science be damned.

Of course. One set of unelected bureaucrats is just as mercenary as the other.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Slightly OT:

If you emailed a comment to OMB please read the last paragraph in rolygates post here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/advocates-updates-usa/567740-action-alert-omb-oira-today.html , you may need to resend it by 12pm tonight.

 

[DC2]

I don't care if Steve reacts or not, but I don't understand why he feels the need to ridicule everyone who does.

Because he has enough nicotine for three years, after which time he is moving out of the country?

 

[stevegmu]

Does this imply that you trust what the FDA says, word for word?
Because that would make your posting history make a lot more sense to me.

I know legally, if it isn't documented, it isn't going to happen...

 

[DC2]

Seems to me it's all documented, albeit hidden behind the curtain of substantial equivalency and premarket tobacco applications.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Seems to me it's all documented, albeit hidden behind the curtain of substantial equivalency and premarket tobacco applications.

They're trying to go after everything, they covered the bases pretty well.. It's all in plain sight...


They even specifically mentioned flavorings for e-liquid, as well as flavor powder one adds to the water at the bottom of a darn hookah... One could argue that they're even going after zero-nic, in not so many words...

Basically throwing everything at the wall & hoping it all sticks, or at least most of it..


They did have years to work on it, after all..

No stone left unturned...

 

[DC2]

It's like I said before... they wrote it EXACTLY how I would have written it if I were them.

 

[Kent C]

They're trying to go after everything, they covered the bases pretty well.. It's all in plain sight...


They even specifically mentioned flavorings for e-liquid, as well as flavor powder one adds to the water at the bottom of a darn hookah... One could argue that they're even going after zero-nic, in not so many words...

Originally Posted by pamdis View Post

Third reading passed in Senate 53-2 with another amendment that changes the definition of "electronic cigarette" to provide that an electronic cigarette is a battery-operated device that contains a combination of nicotine, flavor, or chemicals or any combination thereof (instead of a combination of nicotine, flavor, and chemicals) that are turned into vapor which is inhaled by the user.

Assuming that since it was amended in the Senate, it needs to return to the House. If so, it passed the House originally 105-10, so it will probably sail through.
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The "any combination of thereof" would cover no-nic. IE. flavor or chemicals only.

 

[Berylanna]

What Senate? What House? Bill #?