Bought Xhale o2, Like But want better

[Hungryherb]

Hi, I have been smoking regular cigarettes for near 8 years, I am at about 2- 2 and 1/2 packs a day. terrible i know. I bought an Xhale o2 from 7-11 to see if I liked the vaping idea, I really do, Its great in fact, Problem is, Tastes nothing like tobacco, and the battery dies constantly, Like less than an hour of life and then a 2 hour recharge, I cut back in 2 days to 1 pack of regular smokes, I think i would be able to quit completely if i had more battery, Are there any models that will last a full day? or is my best course of action to buy multiple batteries? I have about 50-75 dollars US to spend on a kit, but I don't want to waste my money, From what i have read on here, seems like the Xhale is a good intro but not a good standby. Also any recommendations on good strong throat hits with a good tobacco taste would be great, at least until I can get over the analog fix, All thoughts appreciated!

One Love from Oregon.

 

[Hungryherb]

Also to add, What are some good flavors to try for enjoyment? Do you think that may help me get over my enjoyment of analog flavor?

 

[Hungryherb]

Another addition, What flavor goes good with black coffee? That is one of my smoking triggers, mainly because they taste really really good together... Any suggestions? Is the coffee flavor any good?

 

[aeroforce156]

I have an extra kit on me called the elips that is real good. Costed me $50 so you could get it from me for the same, Id even throw in some liquid for free to help with the cause. The battery generally lasts 4-5 hours depending on use and takes about 30mins to charge it. Message me and I will show ya a pic if interested.

 

[wv2win]

The best throat hit comes from 5 volt and variable volt models. But most of these are in the $90+ cost range. But in comparison to the one you tried, which is one of the worst, there are many better options in your price range.

First thing to remember:

Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance.

Second, you want manual batteries (small button) for better throat hit, better control and safer. Also for better throat hit, you want your eliquid, especially for a new vaper, to be in the 24mg nicotine strength range. Warmth of vaper and nicotine strength are the two main parts of good throat hit.

I would suggest you get a good beginner model that is in the "eGo" type but not an eGo because it is only 3.4 volts. The ones that I will recommend are the same size as the eGo but are 3.7 volts models with batteries that last longer and with one of them, cost much less.

Look at the E-Power 510 or the Kgo. Both come with 1000+ mAh rated batteries and will provide you 5 - 6 hours on a charge. Here are several reputable suppliers:

Crystal Clear Vaping

KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

e-Power

Good Luck

 

[wv2win]

I have an extra kit on me called the elips that is real good. Costed me $50 so you could get it from me for the same, Id even throw in some liquid for free to help with the cause. The battery generally lasts 4-5 hours depending on use and takes about 30mins to charge it. Message me and I will show ya a pic if interested.

The elips I saw on-line only has a 450 mAh battery. I would not recommend one less than 650+ mAh battery. Although it is definitely better than what the OP currently has.

 

[Retriever]

The KGo from Hoosier ecigs gets good reviews as well as the E-Power. Couldn't go wrong with either.

Hoosier E Cig Supply

 

[aeroforce156]

My elips produces the same amount of vapor as my roommates GLV2, I don't know what more you would need. Honestly I could take a kr808d or 510 automatic battery which I can get for around $15 and stick ce2's on them and keep up with the majority of other much more expensive models. I mean as long as it is functioning properly you don't really do much better until you make the jump to 6v. That leaves only the issue with battery life. My advice would be grab a kr808d with personal charging case, a spare battery, and a 5v pass-through. That will stay within the given budget and provide plenty of quality vaping. Generally one smokes more when they aren't occupied so having the 5v pass-through at the house is a good idea. Also the kr808d with pcc and two batteries will last all day easy and provides nice warm vapor much like cigarette smoke feels like.

 

[aeroforce156]

Also for liquid, I think the totally wicked m/boro goes great with coffee, I personally vape that with my coffee every morning. I would choose that or state express 555 which is also from totally wicked. Dekang marlboro is nice too, it is one of my personal favorite tobacco flavors and comes prefilled in 808 cartomizers.

 

[Tom950]

A 650mah Riva kit is a good start for $30. Leaves you plenty left over to get some juice.

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

 

[mynameisrob]

with the elips you wouldnt be able to use low resistance attys or cartos, which most people prefer. While it would be better than what you have now, I think for that price you can get a much better kit

 

[mynameisrob]

This is from another thread of someone asking pretty much the ame thing. They started with a slim ecig and now want something better. Sorry Im lazy and since Id be writing basically the same thing, Im just gona copy and paste it.

I def recommend going with a bigger battery PV. As youve noticed already, slim ecigs need to be charged a LOT.

The eGo is a popular model and alot of people use them. Personally though, I agree with wv2win and prefer the 3.7V PVs over a 3.3-3.4V eGo. I would check out the kGo, E-Power, and newer Riva(3.7V). All 3 have 510 connections and give a great vape. Any of them would be a LOT better than what you have now and are actually the same price if not cheaper than what you paid for your current kit. I have an E-Power and love it. The main difference between the E-Power and Riva/eGo/kGo is that the E-Power uses non-proprietary batteries. Also everything on the E-Power is replaceable so it really helps keep maintanance costs down. E-Power batteries cost $4-5 while eGo/Riva/kGo batteries cost $14-20. E-Power batteries are 1050mah and I get avg a day to a day and a half on one battery. Because of the non-proprietary batteries I find it alot easier to carry a spare battery. With the Riva/kGo/eGo you basically have to carry a second PV to have a spare battery. With the E-Power you can just throw a spare battery in your pocket and if needed unscrew the switch and pop in a fresh battery. The E-Power batts are about the size of a AA but alittle longer so its easy to carry one in your pocket or bag. I also like that everything is seperate and can be replaced individually. With the Riva/kGo/eGo, the tube, battery, and switch are all one piece. So if your switch fails or you need to replace a battery, you have to replace the whole unit. With the E-Power, the tube, battery, and switch are all seperate, so if you need a new switch you can buy just a switch and keep using your existing tube and battery. Crystal Clear Vaping has a great deal on the E-Power and you get $25 in free stuff, plus free shipping.
If I hadnt gotten the E-Power, I def would have bought the kGo. Besides the proprietary batteries which Im not a huge fan of for the reasons stated above, its a really solid PV. The batteries are 1100mah so they last a long time before needing a recharge. The kGo gives a great vape and most people that use a kGo love it. Hoosier Ecig Supply has a good deal for the kGo.
The Riva is also a nice PV. If you get a Riva, make sure its one of the newer ones that are 3.7V. The older Rivas were 3.4V like the eGo. The Riva has different size battery options you can choose from and is very affordable. LiberyFlights has a great deal for the Riva, just remember to hit the 20% off button first.
The eGo is also a popular PV and works well. It is 3.3-3.4V though, and while I personally think the 3.7V PVs give a better vape, the eGo is still a nice PV. Many vendors carry the eGo and even more carry eGo knockoffs and clones.
With the eGo and Riva you have the option to get a passthrough battery.

Another plus to the bigger battery PVs is that you will be able to use low resistance attys and cartos. Slim ecigs can only use standard resistances. Low Resistance (LR) is considered 2.0ohm and below. LRs give a warmer vape and more TH and most people prefer them. Another reason I like the 3.7V PVs more than the eGo is bc they handle the lower resistances better. The eGo can handle LRs, but personally I dont recommend using below 2.0ohm on an eGo. Using a 1.5ohm or 1.7ohm on an eGo can potentially fry the battery, the 1.5ohms are the most likely to fry the eGo. Many eGo users use below 2.0ohm and havent had a problem, but theres also alot of people that have fried an eGo using them. Really youll hear both sides. Many eGo users will say that they use below 2.0ohm without a problem, and then many others wil say dont use below 2.0ohm bc theyve either fried one or know someone who has. 2 of my good friends both use eGos and bought them from the same vendor. The one uses 1.5ohm DCs, which stresses the eGo the most, and has never had the slightest problem. The other one fried his eGo last weekend using a 1.7ohm Ressurector carto. Even though the 1.7ohm cartos dont put as much stress on the eGo mosfet as the 1.5ohms, his eGo still fried while my other friends hasnt. So its kind of a crapshoot and if you do get an eGo its hard to tell what it can handle and what would push it over the edge. Thats why I dont recommend using below 2.0ohm, just to be safe. Thats also why I like the 3.7V PVs more bc I like the lower resistances and the 3.7V PVs handlethem better. I use the 1.7ohm Ressurector cartos on my E-Power. They are designed for 3.7V PVs and work great on the E-Power, kGo, and Riva.

Really any of them, including the eGo, I think youd be really happy with. THeir all good PVs and will be a big upgrade from what your using now.

Goodluck with everything!

 

[mynameisrob]

As for juice, nothing is ever going to taste like a burning cig unfortunately. There are some tobacco juices that are kinda close, but none that will resembe burning tobacco and paper. Most newbies, including myself when I started, only want tobacco juices and search one that tastes like a cig. Like I said though, none will taste like a burning cig, and frankly, alot of the tobacco juices that are supposed to resemble a certain cig brand, are just gross. There are a few though that are good, buteven those dont taste like a cig, their good for other reasons.
I recommend being open to options and trying juices besides tobacco juices. Most people end up finding juices that arnt tobacco juices that they love and realize that there are alot of really good juices, that arnt a tobacco juice.

Check out BlueMist Vapor. I think they are a great vendor for someone just starting out because they have a huge selection of juices and really cheap prices. There are alot of good juice vendors but many of them are pricey, which can get expensive for a newbie that wants to try a bunch of different juices to find out what they like. Thats why I like BlueMist. They have over 250 juices so you should be able to find a few that interest you. They have alot of really good juices and their cheap which is always a plus, $5 for 10ml and $10 for 30ml. They also offer sample packs which I recommend you get so you can try a lot of different ones without spending a ton. BlueMist allows you to pick your own juices for a sample pack which I like bc you can try the juices you want to try. You can get all their juices in either 80/20 PG/VG or 100%VG. I recommend the 80/20 bc it works better in attys and cartos and doesnt clog then as fast as a thick mostly VG juice. You can also get extra flavor shots for .50cents more and if you find a juice you really like you can get a 180ml bottle for $30, which is an absolutely awesome deal, and breaks down to only $5 for 30ml.

 

[wv2win]

My elips produces the same amount of vapor as my roommates GLV2, I don't know what more you would need. Honestly I could take a kr808d or 510 automatic battery which I can get for around $15 and stick ce2's on them and keep up with the majority of other much more expensive models. I mean as long as it is functioning properly you don't really do much better until you make the jump to 6v. That leaves only the issue with battery life. My advice would be grab a kr808d with personal charging case, a spare battery, and a 5v pass-through. That will stay within the given budget and provide plenty of quality vaping. Generally one smokes more when they aren't occupied so having the 5v pass-through at the house is a good idea. Also the kr808d with pcc and two batteries will last all day easy and provides nice warm vapor much like cigarette smoke feels like.

It's not about the amount of vapor, which is strictly a PG/VG breakdown. It's about the warmth, fullness, consistency and throat hit produced by different powered batteries. You are implying that a 3.7 volt mini battery provides the same throat hit and has the same battery drain characteristics as a good 5 volt or variable volt model. That's just ludicrous, inaccurate and misleading to a new person. You can't change the physics of battery performance. A 5 volt battery with standard resistence attys will always out perform a 3.7v mini battery. And your kr808 at 180 mAh will give a "heavy" vaper a little over an hour of vaping time. That's a lot of batteries at $15 a pop. The 1000 mAh batteries I am recommending cost about $4 with a recharge life 4 times greater than any mini battery, not to mention 5 - 6 hours on a charge.

I would rather a new person get one good model than several that he will have to replace when he gets frustrated. We read these type of posts all the time on this forum.

 

[JCG95]

Welcome to ECF Hungryherb. Sounds like your biggest problem is gonna be battery life and I realize everybody has their favorite vendor but I personally would recommend the E-Power available at MyVaporStore. Probably available elsewhere, but it's a 2200mAh battery and you could get it, cartos and your choice of juice for a reasonable price.

 

[Eternityroad]

I started out with Xhale02. Great to get started or to see if vaping is for you. From there I started adding flavored juice to empty xHale carts. From there it was on to the Riva. I am now parked with the VMOD bottom feeder. But I am sure the journey isn't over yet. Stay tuned.

 

[bp400]

I dunno about black but copper creek has some good coffee flavors.

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[Logunn]

Would anyone recommend the Riva 1100?

 

[bp400]

Yes many people recommend riva

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[bobsyeruncle]

The Riva-T is nice. You need either a needle bottle or a syringe to fill it up. And it wicks at the top, so you occasionally have to swish the atomizer to get a good hit, but overall it works pretty well. Overall performance is similar to the aforementioned VGO, KGO and e-Power. You do get more mAhs with the 1100 Riva battery, if that's important.

If you compare that with the approx. 150 mAhs the Xhale02 is probably putting out, you should see a dramatic improvement whichever way you go.