Braided wire coils

[brianc11111]

heres the pics of the storm-a

this build has improved my opinion of this atty tremendously. lots of flavor and it even puts out the clouds now

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

put quad 28ga braided in the tobh today.
have to say its freakin awesome.
1/8id...4 wraps .18ohms
i like this sooo much better than 22ga. no ramp up time...no let down time....flavor is better...vapor is better....thicker
its even a cooler vape...i believe because the heat is spread out and the intake air cools it more efficiently.
i get more surface area and lower ohms than using bigger wire.....what is there not to like?

to get the leads in the holes, i took two sets of pliers and twisted the leads down to about the size of 22ga...worked great!

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im telling ya.....try it youll like it!

looks awsome man! im defo gonna try it, i just got a fresh roll of 28g in so hopefully by the end of the week i'll be tasting that awsomeness too

have you always done tight braid or have you progressed to it from loose, i started out doing loose & now do tight

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

heres the pics of the storm-a

this build has improved my opinion of this atty tremendously. lots of flavor and it even puts out the clouds now

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is this one 1/8 aswell?

 

[brianc11111]

looks awsome man! im defo gonna try it, i just got a fresh roll of 28g in so hopefully by the end of the week i'll be tasting that awsomeness too

have you always done tight braid or have you progressed to it from loose, i started out doing loose & now do tight

i thought this was loose......what ive done with 32ga is a lot tighter...
i figured i didnt want it too tight or too loose

 

[brianc11111]

is this one 1/8 aswell?

no its 3/32.....next time i believe ill do 1/8th

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Brian i unwrapped and braided up enough 28g 4strand to make about 6 of they 1/8 4wraps like you did,...

are your Tobh post holes standard? i did a sleeper build with the braid but even so, it took quite along time to get the wire through the center post, how easy or hard was it to get yours through? im wondering if braiding tight like i did compared to yours actually makes the wire thicker cus for the life of me i couldnt get the ohm's above 0.12Ω i'm also looking at your braid thats entering the post's, it looks twisted?

well, i ended up wicking it and vaped the wicks dry just to try it out before ripping it all out and starting again, i was a bit gutted i had to rip it out, your right it was an awsome vape without being hot/harsh
heres a pic of that wire i used so you can compare to yours:


so after ripping the atty down i quickly braided up 3strand 28g, same again, braided as tight as possible, 1/8th id, 4wrap each and it ends up giving me 0.18Ω ..... heres a pic of the wire below and some coil pics....




vapes like a beast, would be good for competitions for sure

 

[brianc11111]

i drilled out the center post to a little more than 1/16(drilled it then wallowed it out with same bit). negatives are standard size.

yes, i did twist the leads..took 2 pliers and twisted them up. it took a little effort, but it wasnt too much of a pain in the ayus.
after twisting, the size was about like 22ga. i didnt do a sleeper....two separate coils

that is some nice looking braid!

 

[juggalofisher88]

Hey sloppy how you get that braid so tight and neat?
You got a clamp or something?
Im really wanting to build another braid coil but i want it single, and above .3ohms (don't feel like ripping out my TOBH build)
Don't have much 28g to work with so if ya can get me a ball park estimate on that so i can waste as little as possible

 

[desertrider]

Would there be an advantage for non-sub ohm-ers like me to braid 2 strands? I use a provari and a russian....

 

[juggalofisher88]

Would there be an advantage for non-sub ohm-ers like me to braid 2 strands? I use a provari and a russian....

I don't see why not with 2 strands it'll be like a loose twisted wire, might not be able to keep 28g high enough ohms and still fit in the Russian its worth a try tho especially if you have 30-32g

 

[Aal_]

Would there be an advantage for non-sub ohm-ers like me to braid 2 strands? I use a provari and a russian....

use 3-4 braids with 32, 33 or even 34 gauge

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

i drilled out the center post to a little more than 1/16(drilled it then wallowed it out with same bit). negatives are standard size.

yes, i did twist the leads..took 2 pliers and twisted them up. it took a little effort, but it wasnt too much of a pain in the ayus.
after twisting, the size was about like 22ga. i didnt do a sleeper....two separate coils

that is some nice looking braid!

Thankyou will have to do some testing, so the difference in ohm's between yours and my build could be to do with twisting the ends that go in the post holes Versus non twisted. and possibly nothing to do with the tightness of the braid

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Hey sloppy how you get that braid so tight and neat?
You got a clamp or something?
Im really wanting to build another braid coil but i want it single, and above .3ohms (don't feel like ripping out my TOBH build)
Don't have much 28g to work with so if ya can get me a ball park estimate on that so i can waste as little as possible

No clamp's used, i did use clamp for the 4 strand but by the time i made the braid installed blady da bla and then realised the ohm's were to low, i was getting desperado for a vape so i ended up rushing the 3strand braid using only hands, took me 10 mins to get the braid in the atty

if you unwrapped one length for each of your strands from your spool, presuming they are the same size, mine is 180mm or 7inches x how many strands you want, so 3strand 21inches

for the last build i used 3x 14inches for 2 coils. 1/8th ID, 4wraps each. and came to 0.18Ω for the two so you should get 0.36Ω for the one coil.

my ohm's figures are based on the coil's leg's that enter the post hole's being braided not twisted, still need to do some testing on this theory.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Would there be an advantage for non-sub ohm-ers like me to braid 2 strands? I use a provari and a russian....

yeah for sure. but like the 'masked menace'<--JFISHER said you want to use 3 or 4 strand braid, if you tried to do 2strand braid it will either end up as twisted or you will end up with a loose twist that will have hotspots everywhere.

 

[brianc11111]

Thankyou will have to do some testing, so the difference in ohm's between yours and my build could be to do with twisting the ends that go in the post holes Versus non twisted. and possibly nothing to do with the tightness of the braid

i could be wrong, but i kind of think it has to do with the tightness of braid and twisting of ends.
twisting of ends will add a little bit of wire to final length, and loose braid will add wire too.
just my thoughts

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

i could be wrong, but i kind of think it has to do with the tightness of braid and twisting of ends.
twisting of ends will add a little bit of wire to final length, and loose braid will add wire too.
just my thoughts

yeah buddy, im gonna measure out exact lengths and do some side by side tests and see what it gives me

 

[juggalofisher88]

All right old sloppy im going to try and braid 3 strands of 28g later to put in my modified igoW (its the only thing i have in single mode till my FT order gets in)
Last time i tried this was with 30g and i had a hell of a time with that im looking to do some tight braids any advice on the process?

 

[Aal_]

So Slippy 's nickname is sloppy now? Lol

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

All right old sloppy im going to try and braid 3 strands of 28g later to put in my modified igoW (its the only thing i have in single mode till my FT order gets in)
Last time i tried this was with 30g and i had a hell of a time with that im looking to do some tight braids any advice on the process?

hold 3 wires in 1 hand & braid with the other moving 1 wire at a time, but pull it tight as you bend it down over the top of the middle.... if you braid the other way where you grab the two right wire and twist up over to middle then grab two left & twist up over to middle you will get a looser braid.

when you've finished braiding turn the wire upside down and spin it around to finish off the end you were holding, so you could give yourself an inch or 2 or even start off from the middle .. i hope that makes sense

So Slippy 's nickname is sloppy now? Lol

he's a Fisher, he's just trying to get me to bite

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

okay i did a likkle test, i braided loose wire & tight, i cut four pieces 1inch long.
installed each piece and tested all on the same rm2.
only the part of the leg's that insert into the post holes were twisted on the twisted leg wire.
1) loose braid 0.12Ω
2) loose braid with legs twisted 0.12Ω
3) tight braid 0.16Ω
4) tight braid with legs twisted 0.16Ω

but this is the opposite to what we found Brian between our builds, unless my 1/8th is smaller than yours!

here are some pics to show what i did but halfway through taking pics of the wire in the atty on the ohm meter when i noticed a pattern i gave up on the pic taking ....

below pic the two middle wires are twisted ends

Below Tight Braid

Below Loose Braid