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i 1 day vape about 5ml leh.... liddat $50 a day? jialat...if based on prevailing rate of tabacco tax... 10ml bottle will cost about $60 bah... since 2ml is around 1 pack of smokes right? i might be wrong
Which is why i'm very interested in how they are going to tax the thing if it's approve.
So if i manage to cut down to 0mg juice, i can diy myself using very simple ingredients which is available locally..Like this how?? Not like the vapor i'm gonna blow out will form the SDPJ/L wording..
Guys/gals, this is why I think its almost impossible to be legalised.
1. If allowed to be marketed as a tobacco product they would incur the wrath of the "smoke and die camp"
2. If allowed as a smoking cessation product, big pharma will be up in arms and threaten to pull out of SG.
3. It's almost impossible to track DIY modders and juicers.
4. It would require a different tax structure as tobacco taxes are based on the weight of tobacco regardless of the quality.
5. There are so many atty and cartos out there. A nightmare to regulate. Everyone go rebuildable and gahmen eat .... liao.
Bottomline is how are they going to regulate something that can be made using readily available materials?
1. If allowed to be marketed as a tobacco product they would incur the wrath of the "smoke and die camp"
2. If allowed as a smoking cessation product, big pharma will be up in arms and threaten to pull out of SG.
3. It's almost impossible to track DIY modders and juicers.
4. It would require a different tax structure as tobacco taxes are based on the weight of tobacco regardless of the quality.
5. There are so many atty and cartos out there. A nightmare to regulate. Everyone go rebuildable and gahmen eat .... liao.
Bottomline is how are they going to regulate something that can be made using readily available materials?
bro... what u said is true... anyway... i rather things carron as they are now... grey area.. for the benifit of everyone
Well it might be true. Maybe they will legalize first, then tweak the regulations as time goes by according to our country's behavior. In essence the ppl managing the country are just businessman in my point of view. So it definitely make sense to legalize it. Why you may ask?
Simple answer. Once they legalize it they have a LEGAL excuse to introduce new legislation, make new laws and take action on "offenders", which refers to the current group of vapers, because our pv will officially become illegal as new laws will require pv to follow certain standards, print, engraving etc.
we have all seen how they make money by giving out fines. this is another source of revenue to cover up the hole for loss in cigarette tax. i only pity those (including myself) who try to be good and turn over a new leaf. Who in this forum doesn't agree that we are all here for the same reason, to try and quit smoking.
there could be a few who disagree cause they just want to try smoking, but doesn't this technology also prove to be quite harmless, or at least alot more harmless than analogs? i just hope the government will wake up and stop thinking the citizens are idiots. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS, you just wait and see.
Simple answer. Once they legalize it they have a LEGAL excuse to introduce new legislation, make new laws and take action on "offenders", which refers to the current group of vapers, because our pv will officially become illegal as new laws will require pv to follow certain standards, print, engraving etc.
we have all seen how they make money by giving out fines. this is another source of revenue to cover up the hole for loss in cigarette tax. i only pity those (including myself) who try to be good and turn over a new leaf. Who in this forum doesn't agree that we are all here for the same reason, to try and quit smoking.
there could be a few who disagree cause they just want to try smoking, but doesn't this technology also prove to be quite harmless, or at least alot more harmless than analogs? i just hope the government will wake up and stop thinking the citizens are idiots. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS, you just wait and see.
it would be nice to legalize the e-cigarettes not just in singapore but all accross the globe where there is a strong opposition to it, citing its "unknown" harmful substances as basis. but the truth is, all governments are more afraid of loosing income from tobacco taxes than the harmful effects of analogs ie lung cancer if they legalize e-cigarettes. however if they do legalize the use of e-cigs, im quite sure they'll think of a clever way to tax them.
At least the UK government care more about their people unlike another that just thinks about earning $$$ until the votes give them an .... wooping.
I don't think this rumour is true. Firstly, no one did anything to push for the legalization, why should the govt? No protest, no campaign, no lab test and stuff, people obediently pay their fines if caught = no pressure and no good reason (vaping is still believed to be 'bad' by majority of non-smokers, non-vapers) for them to do so.
I hope it will be legalized one day too but i don't believe things will happen magically by waiting. Sad to say, majority of us won't and will not be bothered to fight for it. And so the hide and seek game will continue.
Anyway, I'm sure this will remain as it is.. just a rumour because a friend of mine got a letter from hsa recently. Emphasizing that 'product imitating smoking' is banned and illegal in sg. He got his stuff confisticated more than half a year ago, this is a 2nd reminder letter and states that stricter measures will be taken if caught again.
I hope it will be legalized one day too but i don't believe things will happen magically by waiting. Sad to say, majority of us won't and will not be bothered to fight for it. And so the hide and seek game will continue.
Anyway, I'm sure this will remain as it is.. just a rumour because a friend of mine got a letter from hsa recently. Emphasizing that 'product imitating smoking' is banned and illegal in sg. He got his stuff confisticated more than half a year ago, this is a 2nd reminder letter and states that stricter measures will be taken if caught again.
I think policies do get adopted in Singapore pretty often. Very often we hear policies to "our" advantage get copied over. Some minster will usually be quoted in mainstream media citing examples of certain politics or case studies from the Swiss la or from the States la and saying that it is good for "us" and therefore they will be pushing certain policies locally. So let's hope one day, some minster will be heard over the radio saying that they will adopting this particular policy from the UK, to our advantage, though I won't be holding my breath. Cheers to health!
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