brilliant reuters story

[Smokin'Sandy]

Who exactly do they think they're fooling with that rhetoric? Pathetic.

The Campaign for tobacco-Free Kids.

 

[Surf Monkey]

The Campaign for tobacco-Free Kids.

They're the ones promoting the rhetoric, not the intended recipients of it.

 

[Smokin'Sandy]

They're the ones promoting the rhetoric, not the intended recipients of it.

How much better than to fool oneselves?

 

[Cloud9Smoking.com]

Good reuters story on the new tobacco legislation:

Woa! That was a brainful. Great article. God, what has this country come when Big Tobacco uses our democratic form of government to eliminate it's competitors?!

 

[saintgadreel]

Woa! That was a brainful. Great article. God, what has this country come when Big Tobacco uses our democratic form of government to eliminate it's competitors?!

Honestly, thats what companies have been doing for decades. I work for an ISP. A small ISP. How many of those do you think exist today? 7000 of them had to close due to government actions and imbalance of competitive elements in the market. That imbalance wasn't necessarily natural either. Some of the companies responsible for that scenario went the way of Enron....

That's just one example. This has happened in food, pharmaceutical, and of course alcohol markets as well. Incidents of businesses, or rather businessmen, manipulating government to achieve greater wealth and influence have been going on since the very inception of the United States. The "Minority of the Opulent" that was intended to defend and uphold this nation has, since its beginning, simply used it for their own ends. The only difference today is that it gets printed in the news and shown on TV.

That may be the saving grace in all of this. The more mistakes that we see, the less "funny" it becomes. It will only take a bit more absurdity to start the beast of revolution moving. The question is, will it be fast enough to make a difference, and peaceful/sensible enough to mark a greater age of reason?

 

[Surf Monkey]

How much better than to fool oneselves?

Touche!

.....

 

[galaxywd]

Yea, refreshing alright... I am going to start selling monopoly boards with Phillip Morris in the middle and I will use cigarettes as a currency for buying property.

 

[galaxywd]

Oh, and the property names will be called Board Walk - Regular, Light, Ultra Light F*** YOU

 

[Sar]

... It will only take a bit more absurdity to start the beast of revolution moving. The question is, will it be fast enough to make a difference, and peaceful/sensible enough to mark a greater age of reason?

I don't mean to sound negative, but I just can't see that this would create any sort of revolution. Some people will, of course, think that it is too bad for smokers/vapers being "inconvenienced" -- but since the current sentiment is that if you are supporting smokers you are against children, not many will publicly side with smokers/vapers. The politicians know that. They also know that they don't really need to answer to anyone -- that is why they are able to pass through this type of legislation with impunity.

For e-cigs, I think our only hope would be health establishment speaking up in support of vaping. If they dare to go against FDA. Many health professionals are pragmatic enough to like e-cigs, I just don't know if many would be able to speak up.