Buff Puff mod

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So today I got frustrated with the few mods I've tried, and grabbed a new Buff Puff, cut a chunk off that was approximately the size I felt was needed in my 510 cart, stuck it in, juiced it up, been vaping happily ever since. No straw. No leakage. No burning fibers.

Will update if problems begin, but for right now, this is best and easiest cart mod I've used.

If anyone else has tried this, would love to hear about your experience.
 

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not to sure what a buff puff is, but after my google search I came up with was a, Buf-Puf sponge. Im assuming this is what you used, yes? Been vaping for a while but honestly never knew about these mods and was getting close to going back to real cigs. I have tried a few of them and they are great but trying to figure out what one would be the best for me. So if you did get the Buf-Puf sponge for skin does it matter what one you use, such as regular, gentle, extra gentle etc etc. Thanks in advance for any help!
 

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I don't know what the burn test is...sounds like a good thing to know though.

Yes, the proper spelling of the 3M product is 'Buf Puf', sorry about that.

As far as I can tell, it's 100% polyester, provided you purchase the kind that is not impregnated with cleanser. 3M makes these in different textures, and some are already loaded with some kind of soap I think.

In any case, I used a generic version that I purchased at Dollar General. A pack of 2 was $1.00, I think. (Don't have my receipt in front of me)
It's solid white, no soap involved. In the pic you can see where I cut off a small piece to use; it was enough to fill 3-4 carts.
It's coarser & more firm than the poly that comes in the carts; I haven't yet had any compression after rinsing clean with water, but I'm sure that will happen eventually.
 

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People have been using buff puffs for a while, I like the buff puff better than blue foam, I use it to make my darts (like the BFD mod) I guess it would be called the BPDM buff puff dart mod...lol!!!

I've never gotten around to trying the blue foam yet...seems pretty popular around here. Right now though, this is working so well ! The PTB method worked o.k., but so far this is better.
 

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I discovered the Buf Puf back in November: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...oir-straw-plug-mod-rsp-mod-14.html#post723605

I used it with the RSP mod though - I never tried it as a full filler, but the point was to keep as little material in the cart as possible, to allow for more liquid & less refills. We did find that it is a directional material and how well it wicked depended upon which direction the fibers were facing. I did the research on the material and found it should be safe for vaping at normal temps. I don;t know about HV mods. However, I moved away from plug mods because they were a pain to refill. Also, all the Buf puf/fluval/Blue foam/Scrubbie pads started tasting funky to me. I'm back to PTB, lol!
 

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Buff Puff v organza(material brides use for their veils)
Somewhere on the filter mods I read that someone was using organza material as filler. I have used all the methods described and still find this the best filler- easy to rinse as well. I fold a small piece like an acordian, then double-fold it and insertinto empty cart. I snipp off the piece with scissors that is bigger than the cart. As I use a 801, I am able to fill it up with at least 20 drops of juice. When it gets too wet for wicking well, I rinse and use another dry piece.
 

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Durp. Hi kids!

I wind up at CVS more often than Petsmart, so I picked up a "gentle" [orange box - these things are hard to find on the shelf since the packaging conceals them!] one today. While it doesn't have soap, it seems to be perfumed, so I'm letting it soak right now. The disposable squares only came with soap, a shame since they'd otherwise look convenient, less slicing needed...

Just curious if the "gentle" or "regular" is the favored material? The latter looked *way* more open than polyfill... and I'm looking to stuff a m40x cart, not some monster thing.
 

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Durp. Hi kids!

I wind up at CVS more often than Petsmart, so I picked up a "gentle" [orange box - these things are hard to find on the shelf since the packaging conceals them!] one today. While it doesn't have soap, it seems to be perfumed, so I'm letting it soak right now. The disposable squares only came with soap, a shame since they'd otherwise look convenient, less slicing needed...

Just curious if the "gentle" or "regular" is the favored material? The latter looked *way* more open than polyfill... and I'm looking to stuff a m40x cart, not some monster thing.

The white ones that I bought are not scented & do not have soap, and the material is fairly dense (I'd say pretty close to the polyfill that comes in the carts, just a little stiffer maybe). I'm not sure about the difference between the regular and the gentle. The generic ones I'm using don't seem to come in all the varieties like the 3M ones do. I think I still have some of the disposable square ones you mentioned from when I used to use them on my face; they are much thinner than the regular ones, so I guess they would have to be folded in some way, in order to fill up the cart. You're right about them being hard to find on the shelf; when I do find them, they're always on the very bottom.
 

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Hmm, well, finished soaking, chopped mine up, and... it's only one cart-full, but not bad! I cut a strip about 1.5 times the width of the (tiny) 40x inner cart, then halved that into two long strips, stuffed it in and whee. The 'gentle' density took on a noticable dent in the hot water, but seems to have done fine in the cartridge so far.

I'm thinking CVS is not the place to go between the fragrance and the price (finally found the detail buried in the other thread and Walgreens is 2 for less-than-the-price-of-one, though I don't know how the sizes might differ). Also that the 'gentle' may not be the best, even in these little carts - it's almost as soft as the polyfill (maybe 50% stiffer), and has visible big gobs of adhesive in it, as well as one side that's obviously 'the stiffer side.' The 'regular' stuff might bounce back a bit better when using the 'hold it aside with a paperclip and shove a dropper in there' fill technique, and trap a bit less liquid... I couldn't get it 100% bone-dry, but I did get about 100 big drags off it in immediate succession (for science!) before it failed to deliver, with maybe 75% of what-would-remain-trapped-in-polyfill remaining (hard to eyeball; it'd be fun to compare by mass but I don't have any of that equipment around). And no leaks.

So yeah, in 6 months when this is finally used up I think I'll try the kind everyone else has been using. But maybe get another one of these for my face. :D

(This is also store-brand, just CVS, and teardrop-shaped like some of the dollar-store ones that were photographed, so I have no proof that it's more or less 3M than anything else. But there's the faintest trace of 'peach' coloring to the rougher side that might help identify the style if it turns up elsewhere... I guess the 'regular' is completely white, though it was hard to tell through the box.)

I guess if there's ever some runny liquid that leaks from the 'regular' type, the thinner fibers in the 'gentle' might be some sort of advantage.

Edit: Just found a few more cartridges where the polyfill was starting to get matted, and while the first one I 'puffed' was just a little less dense than polyfill, I tore another 2mm off this strip and 'fluffed' the remainder to more like half-of-original-polyfill-density before wedging it in. This seems like perfection... it's wicking better than the first, even with the thinner Dekang, it's still not sliding out of the cart, and there seems to be more than enough surface tension to prevent spillage in the little 40x cup. I'll be back if I'm wrong and wreck a battery after this gets some 'pocket testing,' but hopefully that's a hint for others - aim to have the open spaces between fibers be around half the width of a droplet, if that makes any sense - at least, the droplet from a 10ml Dekang bottle.
 
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Oh, and re: the thin squares... my thought was that a single fold might do it in the 40x, or it could be rolled in a spiral edge-up, which might help with wicking. Similar to the roll-of-PTB technique, and the way the 'layer cake' of the sponge-sized pads works, but DIY. Saw someone else using them in a thread I'll never find again, but I can't remember if they found the last unsoaped package in the world, or just went through the trouble of rinsing all the soap out first. (I had to use dish soap to get the fragrance out anyway, so if all I had to pick from was the one store, maybe the soap would save a step, heh.)
 
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