Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[Katya]

don't see how they could have worked for kent. i went back and tried the links from your original posts from yesterday. every time i ended up on the last page of the thread, which at least got lorikay's goat off the hook, lol

I don't doubt Kent's measurements or methods.

Lorikay, Abby has been exonerated.

Links work for me.

What I don't doubt is Scott's measurements or method.

I don't doubt Scott's measurements or method, either.

But I do have my doubts about his assistant, a certain Captain Morgan.

 

[lorikay13]

Welcome. On wetbox, Missy suggests a bit of WD 40 by the switch if it's being affected by leaks - sucks up the liquid. Let it dry. And of course nothing near where it can be consumed.... Wondering what type of ejuice you're using?

so once again I'm chiming in several pages late...but this is something I have meant to tell people about for awhile now....the absolute best lubricant and thread maintainer for e-cigs...castor oil.

If you dont believe me...ask Scottbee. Mrlorikay13 flys RC planes...castor oils is used as a safe high speed and heat tolerant lubricant that will NOT erode plastic hoses or parts like ALL petroleum bases products will. (and where the urban/Internet myth that Wd40 is made from fish oil came from I couldn't tell you...but it is totally not true)

obviously you dont want it in a carto or atty...but it wont harm the finish or gaskets on an ecig and if you get a drop or so in your mouth...no problem. so theres the goat tip for the day. Tweet!


ah...what the heck are ya'll talkin' about....goat post???? Throw back...as in de-evolution?

 

[Quick1]

this is something I have meant to tell people about for awhile now....the absolute best lubricant and thread maintainer for e-cigs...castor oil.

I kind of prefer gin and tonic. I don't get mad at anybody and I think of all kinds of things to post.

 

[tiburonfirst]

Originally Posted by lorikay13
this is something I have meant to tell people about for awhile now....the absolute best lubricant and thread maintainer for e-cigs...castor oil.

I kind of prefer gin and tonic. I don't get mad at anybody and I think of all kinds of things to post.

if what we are maintaining is the burning cartomizer thread then i'll have to agree with quick1 and never mind the castor oil, lol

hi zelda, coming right up

 

[zelda]

The links work fine for me. i'm using firefox.

Hey Tib mix me up a gin and tonic will you? I need it for my Ego batteries. Scientific research.

Hey Lu thanks for all the work you're doing. It can't be easy.

 

[Katya]

The links work fine for me. i'm using firefox.

Hey Tib mix me up a gin and tonic will you? I need it for my Ego batteries. Scientific research.

Thank you, Zelda.

[Shouldn't you get out of the sun now? You'll get a sunburn. ]
Hey, Tib, post #2000! Congratulations.
I'll have a gin and tonic, too.

Or some absinthe. Kent, does it taste like ouzo? I'm afraid it does.

Back on topic. Isaac at IkenVape just announced that his new SLB 510 cartomizers will be 2.6Ω not 2.0Ω as previously stated.

 

[zelda]

Thanks for your concern Katya but my avatar has more clothes than yours so I should be allright in the sun

So Ken got the new SLBs in. Hmm.

 

[lorikay13]

Thank you Tweety Bird! I have pretty much settled on the 2.4's from Ross at VaporEtc...but I may have to try those 2.6's just to see if there is any difference....

I ordered some blank 4081's but now I can't remember from who or what they are or even why????? maybe they will get here today and I'll figure it out!

Ever seen a bald goat? My poor precious is "blowing her coat" ie: loosing all her hair due to the heat. She is also miserable because she is what they call a "maiden milker"...meaning never engaged in the reproductive act therefore never produced offspring yet is producing milk. I'm thinking she might by osmosis be absorbing some of my extra testosterone....Scottoinkbee? have an opinion on that?

(this IS the thread where I get to act like an ... right?)

 

[lorikay13]

Thank you Tweety Bird! I have pretty much settled on the 2.4's from Ross at VaporEtc...but I may have to try those 2.6's just to see if there is any difference....

I ordered some blank 4081's but now I can't remember from who or what they are or even why????? maybe they will get here today and I'll figure it out!

Ever seen a bald goat? My poor precious is "blowing her coat" ie: loosing all her hair due to the heat. She is also miserable because she is what they call a "maiden milker"...meaning never engaged in the reproductive act therefore never produced offspring yet is producing milk. I'm thinking she might by osmosis be absorbing some of my extra testosterone....Scottoinkbee? have an opinion on that?

(this IS the thread where I get to act like an ... right?)

 

[Quick1]

(this IS the thread where I get to act like an ... right?)

(this IS the thread where I get to act like an ... right?)

Except for making duplicate posts... that's just going too far.

 

[Kent C]

the absolute best lubricant and thread maintainer for e-cigs...castor oil.

Thanks for the tip.

 

[Kent C]

Thank you, Zelda.

[Shouldn't you get out of the sun now? You'll get a sunburn. ]
Hey, Tib, post #2000! Congratulations.
I'll have a gin and tonic, too.

Or some absinthe. Kent, does it taste like ouzo? I'm afraid it does.

Back on topic. Isaac at IkenVape just announced that his new SLB 510 cartomizers will be 2.6Ω not 2.0Ω as previously stated.

Hmmm... I like that a 2.6 is available - that would probably push the wetbox a bit. I didn't care for the 2.0 SLB attys he had. But cartos seem to be a different thing. With the attys - on the 510 anyway, there simply isn't the metal mesh that I think makes the 510 work well without drying out. Every SLB atty (L2's were SLB pretty sure) all had a nasty dry atty taste that simply didn't go away. Drippers could likely handle them but....

But the SLB cartos I have work well so far. I'll likely try them at some point.

If you don't like strong black licorice or anise then you'll likely not like Absinthe. Although Absinthe really has two distinct flavors - one straight on the rocks a 'almost takes your breathe away' liqueur and then the 'louched' or Ouzo effect version - see:

Absinthe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Under "Preparation"

... I like both. And the label/manufacturer can make a huge difference in the various one's I've tried - again, suggest 'Pernods' and would not recommend: "Lucid" - which has more interesting labeling. 'cat eyes'. It has an off taste I didn't like. Took one shot and capped it. Might be good enough for a Marinara sauce though. I add aniseed to mine, I'll have to remember that next time.

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Dr. Cuddy: You’re addicted to pain pills!
House: But not useless.

 

[Katya]

New business.

Lu et al. Do you want me to collect some misc. info, from this thread, about the eGo cartomizer? We have Scottbee's post and pics, and tips about filling scattered all over the place. I can copy and paste all the relevant info and have it ready to be moved to the MT. What do you think?

Got my first CE2 cartos from WitchWay. Thanks. First impressions? Bewitched, bothered and bewildered.

I kind of prefer gin and tonic. I don't get mad at anybody and I think of all kinds of things to post.

Quick, you're quickly becoming one of the most valuable players here. I thoroughly enjoyed your recent dissertations on batteries.

Would you, or Bad or Naviathan, be willing to write a little blurb about the CE2 series and include some pics and info about refilling and using them? It can be a compilation of your posts from the other thread, just copied and pasted together into one post here so that it will be ready for Lu? Everybody is looking for basic info about those all over the forum, would be nice to have it in the Master Thread. Game? You guys know the subject better than anyone here.

Thanks for your concern Katya but my avatar has more clothes than yours so I should be allright in the sun

So Ken got the new SLBs in. Hmm.

I am not going anywhere near that, my dear.

Who's Ken and what are the new SLBs that he has? What did I miss?

Thank you Tweety Bird! I have pretty much settled on the 2.4's from Ross at VaporEtc...but I may have to try those 2.6's just to see if there is any difference....

I ordered some blank 4081's but now I can't remember from who or what they are or even why????? maybe they will get here today and I'll figure it out!

Ever seen a bald goat?

Yeah, those Tru-Vapors are golden. Even I can't burn them. This is my favorite setup right now.

It must have been AV or GP. Nobody else carries blanks, AFAIK.

Poor Abby. Give her a hug from me.

Hmmm... I like that a 2.6 is available

... I like both. And the label/manufacturer can make a huge difference in the various one's I've tried - again, suggest 'Pernods' and would not recommend: "Lucid" - which has more interesting labeling. 'cat eyes'. It has an off taste I didn't like. Took one shot and capped it. Might be good enough for a Marinara sauce though. I add aniseed to mine, I'll have to remember that next time.

2.6Ω SLB cartomizer is not available yet, but will be shortly, at IkenVape.

Now, as for absinthe, my goodness, the things I learn from you. First of all, I thought that true absinthe was extinct, gone and just the stuff of myth and legend after the ban. I always have a bottle of Pernod (or Ouzo) in my pantry. I cook with it, you can't make a decent bouillabaise without it, but I never thought of Pernod as absinthe. To me it was just a bitter, herbal, anise/licorice flavored aperitif. But it's making a comeback. The wormwood is not banned any more. I had no idea. Thanks for the tip. My problem is that this country is regulating how much wormwood can be present in absinthe: United States - 10 ppm or less, European Union (EU) - 10mg/l or less. EDIT: actually, 10 ppm is the same as 10 mg/L.

No, I don't want to discuss the loss of our liberties, nanny state, government intervention etc. I'll get my bottle from France. EDIT: EU allows 35 mg/L if you call your drink "bitters."

So, Kent, that Absinthe from DV, does it contain some form of wormwood extract? Or is it just anise flavoring?

 

[Kent C]

Now, as for absinthe, my goodness, the things I learn from you. First of all, I thought that true absinthe was extinct, gone and just the stuff of myth and legend after the ban. I always have a bottle of Pernod (or Ouzo) in my pantry. I cook with it, you can't make a decent bouillabaise without it, but I never thought of Pernod as absinthe. To me it was just a bitter, herbal, anise/licorice flavored aperitif. But it's making a comeback. The wormwood is not banned any more. I had no idea. Thanks for the tip. My problem is that this country is regulating how much wormwood can be present in absinthe: United States - 10 ppm or less, European Union (EU) - 10mg/l or less.

No, I don't want to discuss the loss of our liberties, nanny state, government intervention etc. I'll get my bottle from France.

So, Kent, that Absinthe from TV, does it contain some form of wormwood extract? Or is it just anise flavoring?

As you may have read, the whole myth about Absinthe was likely a bad batch or the drugs people took with it. I'm not certain as to all the ingredients of Decadent Vapour's (DV) Absinthe but it has about 20 different herbs and spices in it including various anises - star, green, and regular, likely lemon balm, wormwood, fennel.....

Pernod of course has other products under that label but the one I have is like the picture above. And I'm pretty sure I posted the Brewhaus links that I have to make the ejuice. So far, DV hasn't bottled the Absinthe as a flavor because it doesn't do well in plastic bottles. And when I was low on my supply, I had to buy 36mg premixed from TW and then dilute it with VG to get to my normal 11mg and used the Brewhaus mix to make up the difference in flavor. Of course they are supposed to be used for making actual absinthe (using vodka usually) but the ingredients of the flavoring is stuff that can be used with an atomizer - well PG for one and no oils or sugars.

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Dr. Wilson: How do you know if a rat's euphoric?
House: He doesn't usually climb on his water bottle like that, does he?

 

[Katya]

Lu, these three posts are about the eGo cartomizer. Scottbee, I take it's OK to use your posts? If you want to edit them or add something, it can be done now (before Lu moves them) or later. OK?

Post 1205

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-121.html#post1538771

1206

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-121.html#post1538810

1424

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-143.html#post1588415

 

[nicnac]

Yeah, those Tru-Vapors are golden. Even I can't burn them. This is my favorite setup right now.

They are in my setup also.
Has anybody actually measured the res on these cartos? They are listed at 2.4 ohms but I get 2 to 2.1 on the meter.

 

[Quick1]

Would you, or Bad or Naviathan, be willing to write a little blurb about the CE2 series and include some pics and info about refilling and using them?

Maybe better to wait a bit? They're turning out revision/modifications about 1 or 2 a week. It looks like they're settling in on something "stable" here shortly.

For a blurb on them.
These look like a really good design. More of an atomizer than a cartomizer? The basic idea is an atomizer coil wrapped around a wick (just like an atomizer). This is suspended in a cup on the air tube over the resevoir of liquid. The wick extends into the liquid resevoir.

On a regular atomizer you have soaked filler that contacts a meshed bridge that guides the liquid to the wick in the coil. Here the wick just extends directly into the liquid.

You get the benefits of an atomizer with the capacity benefits of a cartomizer. It eliminates the drawbacks of both.
On a regular atomizer you have limited juice capacity.
On a regular cartomizer you have filler/sock in close proximity to the coil.

Things they're working on:

wicking -- much improved over earliest revisions. Still room for improvement. Some people say it runs dry, requiring recovery time. Seems it's highly dependent on juice viscosity and composition.

the cup -- reported to be going to ceramic instead of plastic. Some have experienced deformed cups. Also, these seem to be operating best at very low wattage so something like ceramic might allow some (excess) heat to be transfered away from the coil/wick assembly. Some are experiencing a "chemical smell/taste" that may be related to the plastic cup but more likely to glue (see below).

refilling method -- The cup (on the tube) is at the center and top of the reservoir. A cap seals the top. Think of a tulip in a can. If the tulip came to the top of the can you could fill the can with liquid and the cup of the tulip would be dry. Put a wick through the side of the tulip and the wick would stay wet with liquid while the tulip cup was still dry. In order to carry this thing around in various positions while keeping the liquid in the resevoir and not having it spill into the tulip cup you would need a lid across the top that seals the can as well as the top of the tulip cup inside the can. They have that.

In order to fill the can with liquid again there are small holes through the cap where you use a needle to replenish the liquid. Small diameter of the holes and the surface tension of the liquid keep it inside once it's there. People are finding this difficult and are removing the cap, refilling, and replacing the cap. The manufacturer thought it necessary to glue the cap in place. My guess is to ensure it's position and seal. The glue is suspected to be an issue at the moment and may be the source of a chemical taste/smell that a few have experienced.

So, bottom line: I think there are some further changes still in the short term pipeline. A description and tips at this point may be outdated/no longer applicable in the very near future. I'd wait a while for things to settle out.

 

[Katya]

Thank you so much, Quick.

I'll leave it to Lu to decide whether she want to move your post for now, to be edited later. I think it's great info. Beats trying to follow that other thread.

Again, thanks for your post.

I have one of those babies in my hand right now and I'm, frankly, afraid to use it. I'll let Kent go first and see what he says.

 

[Quick1]

I have one of those babies in my hand right now and I'm, frankly, afraid to use it. I'll let Kent go first and see what he says.

dahahaha. let Mikey try it, he'll eat anything!

 

[Kent C]

Lu, these three posts are about the eGo cartomizer. Scottbee, I take it's OK to use your posts? If you want to edit them or add something, it can be done now (before Lu moves them) or later. OK?

Some people liked this one too:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tem-808-dpv9-smoke51-etc-156.html#post1611596

All yours....