Ahh, mine are plastic then. My filler caps also have numerous tiny holes, not just the 2 on the outside. I wonder what that means....?
Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos
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There was a 7-hole version early on. If you have 7 holes, that must be it. If you have more than 7, you've got a sieve.
Cute katya, as always.
Mine have 7 holes, guess it's a first run? I'm excited and nervous about getting my E2R3 cartos...
Tomorow I'll be getting my GreenCig G400 kit in. Given my previous experience with GreenCig cartos, I decided to try this anyway. As long as I can get airflow, and refill them, they should be good. I'll post a review after playing with them some.
I have to say honestly that to date, my favorite setup is still my SS with DK Tab juice. My second are the soft tip 510s (these) Of course, this can change.
Mine have 7 holes, guess it's a first run? I'm excited and nervous about getting my E2R3 cartos...
Tomorow I'll be getting my GreenCig G400 kit in. Given my previous experience with GreenCig cartos, I decided to try this anyway. As long as I can get airflow, and refill them, they should be good. I'll post a review after playing with them some.
I have to say honestly that to date, my favorite setup is still my SS with DK Tab juice. My second are the soft tip 510s (these) Of course, this can change.
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E2 with a filler sure sounds like something worth a try (how do you say that in Chinese?).
Its all good little birdy. If they close down this thread, we can always go to the e2 threads and harass those guys and show them how carto reviews are done.So we're not closing the thread?
Oh, great. Nic. We've come a full circle!
So we're not closing the thread?
Sorry I read this thread off and on since it's birth... I didn't realize that was mentioned .. but at the same time not surprised that it has
Vaporer in my opinion has a great tute on it.. somewhere around here
but like my LGD306 carto.. with an atty wedged right up in there.. I like.. but again a circle
.. I am just trying to make a figure 8...sorry for not putting my input in the right place and time.. or contribute to it to the potential that I could have... but you all have pretty much covered it anyway....
Oh, no, LGD, we're running in circles here. For almost a year and a half, we (as all the others before us) have been dreaming about creating a non-burning cartomizer. A fillerless carto seemed like a solution to our problems. So I mused a few posts earlier that with the advent of a first non-burning carto, this thread would become obsolete and we would hold a closing ceremony (and throw a big party). Your idea of putting the filler back in a fillerless carto will probably keep us in business for another year and a half.
Your presence here is an honor and a pleasure and your ideas are fascinating and entertaining as always. Not to mention that I, for one, completely agree with you. I like the filler holding the eliquid in suspension inside the carto. I believe that finding materials that wick well and don't burn is the solution we're all looking for. Why can't they use the wicking material (that doesn't burn) as a filler? Wouldn't that be nice? Make that carto more user friendly; easy to fill and refill (no syringes, please), easy to take apart for cleaning, and create a perfect airflow through the carto for that perfect, cig-like draw. Just like you're proposing.
Can anybody translate this into Chinese?
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your ideas. Don't be a stranger.
Your presence here is an honor and a pleasure and your ideas are fascinating and entertaining as always. Not to mention that I, for one, completely agree with you. I like the filler holding the eliquid in suspension inside the carto. I believe that finding materials that wick well and don't burn is the solution we're all looking for. Why can't they use the wicking material (that doesn't burn) as a filler? Wouldn't that be nice? Make that carto more user friendly; easy to fill and refill (no syringes, please), easy to take apart for cleaning, and create a perfect airflow through the carto for that perfect, cig-like draw. Just like you're proposing.
Can anybody translate this into Chinese?
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your ideas. Don't be a stranger.
Even though I got a first run version of the E2, and with everyone's input on the forum with regard to it, I believe we may have at last found the holy grail of non-burning cartos. Once we agree (on this or a future one) I'm all for closing the thread and a party.
We could (as previously suggested) adjourn to the E2 thread.
We could (as previously suggested) adjourn to the E2 thread.
ahem.....ah....hi there.
I am still majorly confused as to what I am allowed to say and where. So for the sake of prudence I will assume that I may not speak about specific vendors or their specific branded products. Obviously I cannot speak about my own product.
that said....a word about the Holy Grail. be careful. okay..that was two words. It's happened before and I can see it easily happening again.....someone gets a sample run of a product....wow...this thing rocks@! lets do a co-op order...or worse a nice vendor orders a boatload....and surprise...the RMA's are rolling in...because what you got was not the same product as what you sampled.
a manufacturer can potentially save themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars just by shaving a fraction of a mm off the diameter of the wire used in the atty coil. typically this will be done AFTER the sample batch has been run. It is also conceivable that a product like this could be made with the concept of planned obsilescence in mind. just sayin.........
right....my point....better keep the thread open.
I am still majorly confused as to what I am allowed to say and where. So for the sake of prudence I will assume that I may not speak about specific vendors or their specific branded products. Obviously I cannot speak about my own product.
that said....a word about the Holy Grail. be careful. okay..that was two words. It's happened before and I can see it easily happening again.....someone gets a sample run of a product....wow...this thing rocks@! lets do a co-op order...or worse a nice vendor orders a boatload....and surprise...the RMA's are rolling in...because what you got was not the same product as what you sampled.
a manufacturer can potentially save themselves hundreds of thousands of dollars just by shaving a fraction of a mm off the diameter of the wire used in the atty coil. typically this will be done AFTER the sample batch has been run. It is also conceivable that a product like this could be made with the concept of planned obsilescence in mind. just sayin.........
right....my point....better keep the thread open.
of the sorts
one thought would be like a "popular" home made cartomizer where you would still have the filler but the element would be above it... sort of the e2 with filler
or an "encased attomizer" cartomizer where the element would be "protected" by
a quasi-bridge and metal mesh
I made one back in the day with a 306 atty and 801 cart parts...it was "temporary" but affective
take a gander.. the concept is what it's about
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cartomizer-501-306-hybrid-cartomizer-mod.html
EDIT: with the above mod,I would imagine a M401 sized atty would be best suited for more juice volume
LGD these are wonderful ideas. Why not use filler in an E2? Find the right material for filler as Katya says and there would be no problem with using filler. Make the cartos more user friendly and ditch the syringes which are nothing but a nuisance.
Take the best elements of cartos and combine them.
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Yes, Ma'am.
Nice to see you, Lorikay! New outfit?
Yup, it does happen, doesn't it? The last time, as I recall, we actually had a perfect batch, and then the subsequent ones turned out to be inferior. This time we don't even have a perfect prototype. We have leaks, and connection problems, and primer fluid problems, and tight coil problems, and resistance problems, and funky taste problems, and the major filling problem, and the inner rings not quite fitting problem...
I think this thread is safe for a while.
Besides, we can't have closing ceremonies without WitchWay, can we?
Nice to see you, Lorikay! New outfit?
Yup, it does happen, doesn't it? The last time, as I recall, we actually had a perfect batch, and then the subsequent ones turned out to be inferior. This time we don't even have a perfect prototype. We have leaks, and connection problems, and primer fluid problems, and tight coil problems, and resistance problems, and funky taste problems, and the major filling problem, and the inner rings not quite fitting problem...
I think this thread is safe for a while.
Besides, we can't have closing ceremonies without WitchWay, can we?
LGD these are wonderful ideas. Why not use filler in an E2? Find the right material for filler as Katya says and there would be no problem with using filler. Make the cartos more user friendly and ditch the syringes which are nothing but a nusaince.
Take the best elements of cartos and combine them.
That probably would work.. but I prefer a different manufacturer personally
I haven't had a chance to make the Vaporer's DIY that is the basic concept.. but I personally believe if they make an "exposed atty" type element with the bridge and mesh.. and encased it with filling it would work just as well... like a sturdy manufactured version of my "shade tree design". .... again not sure if it would be good for mass production (proper R&D) could definitely work the kinks out..... of course this is all speculation and I am no expert.
lorikay... I feel the term "Holy Grail" should only be used for a product guaranteed for EVERYONE to like and be able to use right out of package....
so I agreeYes, Sir.
I gave up on atomizers because they required modding, and I didn't need a hobby. I wanted something that would replace a cigarette. Any carto or atty that requires modding and fussing and cutting and shaving and trips to Petco and Starbucks is out of the question for me.
I agree with you, LGD, if it doesn't work as is, out of the box, I don't want it. Do you have a specific manufacturer in mind?
So, carry on.
I gave up on atomizers because they required modding, and I didn't need a hobby. I wanted something that would replace a cigarette. Any carto or atty that requires modding and fussing and cutting and shaving and trips to Petco and Starbucks is out of the question for me.
I agree with you, LGD, if it doesn't work as is, out of the box, I don't want it. Do you have a specific manufacturer in mind?
So, carry on.
just marking my territory
ah....because then it would be an atomizer? RFLMAO!!!
dear....did you miss my comment about planned obsolescense? An eon ago I started a thread entitled How Much Would You Pay.....trying to find out just what the heck people wanted and how much would they pay to get it. I was absolutley shocked that most people would not be willing to pay much more than they are currently paying for a cartomizer that had the same life as a good atty and could be cleaned. In fact....the constant whining about how expensive a good product is MIGHT be why a company would not be willing to bother developing a larger range of products. just sayin....
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Where am I? [Change is good. Keeps your senses sharp.] Thank you, ECF! The new forum looks good.
Lorikay, I think that there is a need for a good quality, non-burning, reusable cartomizer. If someone offered a carto that looks anything like the one LGD and Vaporer are proposing, there would be a market for it. I am sick and tired of inferior quality of most cartos on the market today. I buy a 5-pack and I never know how many out of the five will even be usable. I get, on average, anything from 1 to 3 duds per package. If you add all the eliquid I lose in the process of filling and tossing bad cartos, the cost is tremendous, really. I'd gladly pay $15 or more for a 5-pack that could be cleaned and reused several times. That's what a good atomizer and a pack of cartridges cost. People pay a lot for atomizers and cartridges and they are willing to go to all the trouble of modding them, which makes tha process even more expensive and time consuming. With non-burning materials and a clever design, my dream cartos don't need to be very expensive.
"If you build it, he will come" (often misquoted as "If you build it, they will come"), ...
Lorikay, I think that there is a need for a good quality, non-burning, reusable cartomizer. If someone offered a carto that looks anything like the one LGD and Vaporer are proposing, there would be a market for it. I am sick and tired of inferior quality of most cartos on the market today. I buy a 5-pack and I never know how many out of the five will even be usable. I get, on average, anything from 1 to 3 duds per package. If you add all the eliquid I lose in the process of filling and tossing bad cartos, the cost is tremendous, really. I'd gladly pay $15 or more for a 5-pack that could be cleaned and reused several times. That's what a good atomizer and a pack of cartridges cost. People pay a lot for atomizers and cartridges and they are willing to go to all the trouble of modding them, which makes tha process even more expensive and time consuming. With non-burning materials and a clever design, my dream cartos don't need to be very expensive.
"If you build it, he will come" (often misquoted as "If you build it, they will come"), ...
I'm just ...... on the tree here so I can find it again.....
ditto, i'll never get through finding my threads,lol
I'm just ...... on the tree here so I can find it again.....
good boy....just dont pee on my tree
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