Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

Status
Not open for further replies.

Katya

ECF Guru
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 23, 2010
34,804
120,147
SoCal
I'm just ...... on the tree here so I can find it again..... :unsure:

The most quoted post in ECF history? Congratulations, Scottbee.:D

Hey, where is my green grinning smiley? I can't express myself without my green guy! mods, bring back my green grin!!!

P.S. Don't forget to wash your hands, Scottbee, dear, please.
 

tiburonfirst

They call me 'Tibs"
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 23, 2010
26,883
260,345
The most quoted post in ECF history? Congratulations, Scottbee.:D

Hey, where is my green grinning smiley? I can't express myself without my green guy! mods, bring back my green grin!!!

P.S. Don't forget to wash your hands, Scottbee, dear, please.

yep, and all for naught!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe tomorrow we can pee again with the hoped for results, lol
 

Kent C

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 12, 2009
26,547
60,051
NW Ohio US
128092623.jpg


Checking in....
 

Kent C

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 12, 2009
26,547
60,051
NW Ohio US
Scott, anyone....

Have you tried the "Joye cartomizers" from cignot?

Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.

Odd - they are narrower than any other I've tried and even drip tips are 'too big'. They're plastic and have a 'mid cap' with two holes, which is supposed to be removed to fill but I thought they were like E2's and filled them through the holes and it worked. lol. However, it is best to fill through the center hole - this is similar to the mega eGo carto - and again, I'm leaving off the mid cap so I can fill directly through the end cap and into the middle 'sealed' hole inside.

They're longer than nhaler's 'mega carto'. And I didn't measure the ejuice since I wrongly 'filled' it at first. I do another one and measure, later.... I'm guessing the inside is also similar to the mega eGo carto - a filler same as the cartridge and no 'center hole' where you could flood it (d'uh - you fill through the center hole ;-)

I knew a Joyetech carto was in the works (via Wayne at HG) but either I missed the 'release' or simply didn't know. I see TW has some new 510 cartos and I'm guessing that they, like their other stuff is 'titan/joye' but not sure. I'd like to hear from anyone who bought them from TW to compare.

Since they are skinnier than regular cartos, no cone modification is necessary but I don't care for the round end - perhaps some 'small drip tips' are coming.

The one I'm using measures on my multimeter at 2.8Ω and a bit weak for me on the eGo. It is a range that I'd use on the Wetbox or the 5volt but being plastic, I don't plan to use it on the 5 volt. It has silver threading and a standard end post like an atty. Both caps easy to remove but the mouthpiece is still secure in vaping. And I am getting a tad 'plasticy' taste - since I filled it from the center - don't know if that it is new or not. Now I'm wondering if filling through the side holes - like the E2 was correct. If so, Vicky will have to change her blurb. I may cut this open soon.... Others' reports welcome. I'm surprised cignot got these before anyone else. (if that's the case).

edit:
After refilling the 'wrong' way - ie not through the center sealed hole but along the sides, I'm being persuaded - much more vapor, flavor and no plastic taste - that it is more like an E2 type set up than the mega eGo carto setup. This is a lot better than 2.8Ω vapor on an eGo. Dremel this weekend.
 
Last edited:

Lightgeoduck

Vaping Master
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 7, 2009
5,699
180
50
jp(APO)Camp Z us
Scott, anyone....

Have you tried the "Joye cartomizers" from cignot?

Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store.

.

Well I buckled and purchased some ego cartomizers to try out and added a pack of those as well... I will give some input as well if you like..... of course with the holiday.. and me being at an APO it might be in the week after..... (I am always behind the curve :p)
 

Kent C

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 12, 2009
26,547
60,051
NW Ohio US
No I haven't! I saw them up on the Cignot site a few days ago and it raised my eyebrow just a bit in curiosity.

I'll be interested in your on-going analysis.

Scott, Duck....

5cm long (2 inches). @8mm diameter. Top cap with a center hole and a 'mid cap' with two side holes similar to the mega eGo carto, that sits flat on a center post (with 'sealed hole') about 7mm from top. Then a 'floor' around the center post about 14mm deep with an opening on 1/3rd? of the floor. I didn't probe into that but currently, that's where I'm filling. I rechecked ohms because of the amount of vapor, but still reading 2.8Ω. Very easy draw but I'm using a reamed cone at present. Some gurgling and a few pops right after refill - similar to direct dripping - flavor and vapor as well. It's vaping more like 6.5W rather than 4W. I'm going to vape it dry then again, try filling through the center hole and replace the mid cap, etc. but when I did that initially, there was little vapor and the plastic'y taste. But no plastic the way I'm currently doing it.

The thing is long enough to where you don't get a lot of heat at the mouth end but I still prefer a flat tip or delrin tip over the round. It's a cooler vape than say a 1.6Ω LR on the eGo. Because of the length, there's no problem with covering/blocking the top of the cone as is the case with some cartos.

Although I haven't measured yet it seems to take around 1ml of ejuice. I'll be cutting it open later today just from curiosity. I'm guessing there must be some filler in the lower area, unless Joye was 'watching' the E2 thread ;-) and the ejuice doesn't run out the 1/3 floor after refilling so something is holding it.
 

Kent C

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 12, 2009
26,547
60,051
NW Ohio US
That had more significance before a post went off into the ether......

---
House: I fear for the human race. A teenager claims to be the voice of God and people with advanced degrees are listening.
House: You know, I get it that people are just looking for a way to fill the holes; that they want the holes; they want to live in the holes; and they go nuts when someone else pours dirt in their holes. Climb out of your holes, people!
 

ImYourSalt

Moved On
ECF Veteran
Jun 1, 2009
2,431
202
San Diego, CA
liberty-flights.com
Good news! I was subscribed (no notifications) to all the threads I follow and they saved the subscriptions. They just need to get that "user cp" button on the top bar again so I don't have to click twice to get there. Unfortunately I think I've gone snow blind in the mean time.

Hit "settings" in the upper right, by "notifications" worked for me!


As fr those Joye 510 cartos from Cignot. I sent them an email a week or 2 ago, and Vicki let me know she was reading 2.6 ohms. As I have been enjoying the 2.5 ohm Tru-vapor cartos, I figured those would be right in line. though 2.8 does sound a little high...

I also got some of the GP-808d-1 cartos from goodprophets. i think the site lists them at 3.5 ohm. they appear to be the same manufacturer as the tru-vapor 510's (trueman/vaporsetc), and seem to perform just as well. i have only had one in rotation for about a day now, so no word on burn resistance yet, but i am not worried. The performance is very comparable to the v9 Tubos, so if you like those, and the 510's from trueman, i recommend giving these a shot.

available here:
GP-808D-1 Cartomizer

Lord...make me pure....just not right now. <WHERE is the little grinning green guy?????>

:D

he's yellow now!
 

Kent C

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 12, 2009
26,547
60,051
NW Ohio US
Joye 510 carto from cignot....

No pics - too much blood (well, plastic ;-) .... But to continue what I described above - take off mouth top cap with center hole, then 'mid cap' with two holes opposite near the cart wall, remover that and there's a center post with a 'sealed hole' that you puncture to fill and then a floor around that post with an air channel on one side.

That 'floor' inside that holds the center post has 1/3 cut out - that 1/3rd cut out is actually a 'D' shaped air channel that goes directly to the coil area, and of course Vicky was right about filling it - basically same as the mega eGo carto where you have the top (mouthpiece) cap, mid cap with two holes opposite each other, which then, 'with the floor,' become part of the air channel.

The non-D part of the cylinder below the floor plate with the center fill hole, is the filler and again, like the mega eGo carto has no 'folds' or rolled stuff but regular polyfil (although that's not entirely correct because it isn't like older 510/801/901 cart filler - it's a bit more coarse and less stringy). So that goes right down to the coil. Mine was entirely pristine - I was using DV's absinthe in VG which is faint green tint but the filler was pure white - however, understand that most of the filling was done 'through the air channel'. I did however on second refill and on the last one, use the center 'sealed' hole. This last time vaped much better than earlier. I'm guessing I didn't get a full refill on the earlier one. I still think the best vapor was the 'direct drip' via the air channel but after looking at it, I'm really surprised it didn't flood. The filler may have wicked it up.

The batt connector is interesting - solid silicone or epoxy (it's clear) mostly but with a wire channel that is offset to one side with another D shaped 'tier' also of epoxy/silicone so that the air flow through the coil to the center post of the batt connection takes a 90 degree turn right at the coil. The coil sits horizontally raised off the epoxy/silicone with a short wick through it. There was very little build up on the coil. (no attempt to dry burn or wash it). I didn't totally see the 'channel' through the batt connector when I unscrewed it, so I'm not sure of the orientation, but it would make sense as far as air flow for the two 'D shapes to be opposite one another. Otherwise there would be no airflow - unless, I missed a gap there.

There was no burnt plastic - actually thought there might be - and while the sides come down and around the batt connector the coil sit horizontally in the middle of the connector and is so small that it isn't near the plastic side wall. I may have been getting a primer taste or perhaps the epoxy, but again, the coil is raised off of that floor. The filler itself could come in contact with the coil but it didn't appear to be but there was nothing holding the filler - no glue spot that I saw.

I saw I'myoursalt's comment from Vicky about ohms and I just tested the next one and the ohms are at 3.0. I'm using a digital craftsman multimeter that defaults to 0 shorted. I'll load it up a bit later....
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread