Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

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Ms. Zelda, you're doing 510's right? I'll defer. I have zero experience with those. Maybe they are more apt to death? Just wondering about that as Tweety just had one die from AZ Smokes and I thought it was an odd fluke thing. But perhaps 510's croak easier?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Have you ever had one just stop working? I alway figured they had a certain "lifespan" and then they just stop.
 

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tweety bird, could you do a good deed and check on the pif 'want' thread. a fellow there needs some help sorting out compatible pairings - atties and batteries

Tib, could you point me to the specific post? I read the last few pages but I'm not sure whose questions you wanted me to look at. There's been a lot of back and forth between different members and it seemed to me that, at least by the time I got there, most of the questions had been answered.

Ms. Zelda, you're doing 510's right? I'll defer. I have zero experience with those. Maybe they are more apt to death? Just wondering about that as Tweety just had one die from AZ Smokes and I thought it was an odd fluke thing. But perhaps 510's croak easier?

Inquiring minds want to know.

That's funny, but I never had a kr808 just die on me. Maybe because they would burn before they had a chance to die of old age? :facepalm:

The only cartos that die, in my experience, are the 510s. I experienced sudden deaths of the Truemans, AZSFs, and the Genuine Joye cartos. Never a Boge, Bauway or SLB. And I never had a 4081 carto die, ever. Interesting.

BTW, my 5th AZSF carto is very nice. The best one so far. So, even if they are not very consistent, I like them a lot. And for under 6 bucks a pack, one can afford an occasional dud. Coupon code for AZ Smoke Free is 'vapers'.
 

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Really? The Genuine Joyetech cartomizers (not the eGo's)? I've had 15 - 20 of them in rotation for a while now and they're all flawless. and refilled maybe 6 times so far. The eGo's have been good too except they forgot to glue them onto the base...

Really? I had some that leaked from the seam at battery end, I burned a couple, and one was a dud. Just died after a few puffs. Do you use blanks? I only got prefilled. My biggest problem with them is that they don't wick fast enough for me, so I tend to overvape and singe them... But the taste can't be beat. Just like dripping. And tons of vapor, at least at the beginning.
 

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"Tib, could you point me to the specific post? I read the last few pages but I'm not sure whose questions you wanted me to look at. There's been a lot of back and forth between different members and it seemed to me that, at least by the time I got there, most of the questions had been answered"

looks like he got some help. i don't know anything about 5v vaping and somehow you're always my preferred go-to expert, lol
 

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Really? I had some that leaked from the seam at battery end, I burned a couple, and one was a dud. Just died after a few puffs. Do you use blanks? I only got prefilled. My biggest problem with them is that they don't wick fast enough for me, so I tend to overvape and singe them... But the taste can't be beat. Just like dripping. And tons of vapor, at least at the beginning.

Yes, leak from the seam at the battery end. The plastic is not glued to the thread part, it just sort of snaps on there. I think because they are such large diameter relative to the thickness and rigidity of the plastic that they are going to be prone to leaking there. I have to cut the skirt off as well and that probably flexes it a bit and/or helps break loose whatever seal there may have been. I've sort of been trying some different glues. After cutting off the skirt just put a bead where the plastic meets the metal. First time I tried that was after using it for a while so juice residue probably didn't help the glue adhesion much...

Blanks only.
 

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The only cartos that die, in my experience, are the 510s. I experienced sudden deaths of the Truemans, AZSFs, and the Genuine Joye cartos. Never a Boge, Bauway or SLB. And I never had a 4081 carto die, ever. Interesting.
there is a reason for that. I don't think that the carto actually dies. it is the way the thread was designed. if you look at the SLBs & bauways, you will notice that the inner pat (its either the positive or negative) is designed the way that can not be moved around. Now look at a truman carto (the ones from Vapors Etc & AZ Smokeless). You can move the inner part with bare fingers. They are built cheap. they just don't make the connection therefore NO circuit. Number one rule in electricity. You need to have a circuit.
Right now i'm playing around with an AZ carto that keeps going in & out on me.

My dream carto (until they come out with the fat short E2s) would be Boge with a very little filler. How do you say that in Chinese?
 

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I like them very much. They look and taste identical to the old Tu-Vapors from vapors etc.
Its funny. Last Friday night in a gathering I was talking to person who is in Textile business and he was talking about how Chinese manufacturers are in a habit of skimming off the quality every time he reorders the same product from them. he said after a few reorders the quality becomes unacceptable. Does this sound familiar? We'll see what the next batch of AZ cartos will look like.

I received two packs of these on Tuesday and I like them because it had the right filler. So I figured since the site shows 14 packs left I would order 3 more packs before they run out of this batch because of our previous experince with the Tru-Vapors.
I just received my second order today and guess what. These have the blanket type fillers. i called him today & found out that he has ran out of the old batch & this is a new batch.
I give up.
looks like AZ is using the same supplier as Vapors Etc which is taking them for the same ride.
 
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I received two packs of these on Tuesday and I like them because it had the right filler. So I figured since the site shows 14 packs left I would order 3 more packs before they run out of this batch because of our previous experince with the Tru-Vapors.
I just received my second order today and guess what. These have the blanket type fillers. i called him today & found out that he has ran out of the old batch & this is a new batch.
I give up.
looks like AZ is using the same supplier as Vapors Etc which is taking them for the same ride.

Thanks so much for the update. I was just about to order some.
 

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I received two packs of these on Tuesday and I like them because it had the right filler. So I figured since the site shows 14 packs left I would order 3 more packs before they run out of this batch because of our previous experince with the Tru-Vapors.
I just received my second order today and guess what. These have the blanket type fillers. i called him today & found out that he has ran out of the old batch & this is a new batch.
I give up.
looks like AZ is using the same supplier as Vapors Etc which is taking them for the same ride.

Nic, I'm so confused. Do they look like these in WW's pictures?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...1-etc-filler-type-cartos-162.html#post1620612

Mine do, and they are working OK. Not great, but fine. Those old Truemans also had the 'blanket' type filler. Vertical coil, a little wicking diaper and a 'blanket.' How are your new AZSF cartos different from the first box you got from them?

Bruce from CoV just listed the R4 3.0Ω E2 510 cartos on his site. I ordered a box....
 

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This is the pic of the original tru-vapors fillers by by Vapors etc posted by Salt (the one we all likes)..

i have been using one of the 510 Tru-Vapor cartomizers for a couple days shy of one month now. It was still working fabulously, until moments ago.... I decided it's time for an autopsy.

I pulled the filler from the carto, and gave it a quick 2-3 second rinse. thats it.

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when they work, they WORK!

I gonna try to put it back together. ill let you know how it goes

this is the pic of the two types of the fillers side by side which Ross from vapors etc took. The bottom one is the original fill which we all liked. the top one is the fill on the later batch which was too overstuffed and did not taste as fresh as the original.
the same thing is happening with AZ cartos. the ones I got earlier this week had the bottom fillers. The ones I got today have the top fillers.

they are easy to detect looking into the cartos. one looks like a lot of tiny white hair. The other looks like a blanket rapped around.
They are all vertical coils. Everything is identical except the filler.
 

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They're realy not that bad. They just don't keep flavor as long. or you might get lucky & get the old ones. But again. What are the alternatives?
The Madvape's Bauways looked promising but who knows, the new batch might be a different creature.
BTW: When I was talking to AZ Smokeless on the phone, he told me manufacture is Bauway. go figure.
When you look at the Madvape's Bauway cartos and the AZ (or the tru-vapors), the threads do not look anything alike.
Are you confused yet? :-x
 
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looks like he got some help. i don't know anything about 5v vaping and somehow you're always my preferred go-to expert, lol

Expert??? :blink:

God bless your heart, Tib. :)

look at salt's pic. look at the shadow of the filler. You'll notice hos light has passed through the filler onto the table.

Yeah, rub it in.

They're realy not that bad. They just don't keep flavor as long. or you might get lucky & get the old ones. But again. What are the alternatives?
The Madvape's Bauways looked promising but who knows, the new batch might be a different creature.
BTW: When I was talking to AZ Smokeless on the phone, he told me manufacture is Bauway. go figure.
When you look at the Madvape's Bauway cartos and the AZ (or the tru-vapors), the threads do not look anything alike.
Are you confused yet? :-x

I'm totally confused. Mike told me that they are made by Tuofan. I checked their website. They do exist and they seem to be big...

AZSF cartos look nothing like the Bauways.

Back to Boges and SLBs (standard 3.0Ω for me) and 2.5Ω Bauways (they are back in stock). I may take another look at Good Prophets' 510 cartos. I forgot how they were (I think I burned one). *sigh*
 

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After all the earlier ranting I decided to fire up one of the AZ second batch cartos just to be giving them a fair trial. that was about 2 PM. It is now 1 AM and I've been vaping this carto constantly and I must say that I am very impressed. The flavor has been very consistent. It still tastes like a fresh carto.
Life is good again.
Katya,
Did you say you are expecting a shipment of these cartos? If so, let me know what you think about them
 
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