Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[ImYourSalt]

Do you mean the platinum? Do they also have Silver?

Platinum... I forgot what they were called
Premium 510 Cartomizers

I call them BOGE, because they came in the same box that all the BOGE cartos i've ever ordered came in

Look Familiar? It even has the DeKang logo on the box
they also have my favorite white .... plugs. always easy to remove with my finger nail. I don't like the trueman style, which always tends to get lost somewhere

 

[zelda]

Hey Katya. Hey Kent. The battery connects fell off the Ego mego cartomizers. Some of the cartos I used only a few times and off it came. But it was a bad batch I think now. And I'm going to try them once again. I like them And not least of all is the amount of juice they hold. It's a real plus for em to fill those up and not have to worry about refilling for a while.. Though I like the Boge LRs and the E2s I didn't think of how often I'd end up refilling them compared to the Ego cartos.

Have a good Sunday everyone.

 

[nicnac]

Katya & salt,
Thanks for all the info.
I'm still using the AZ cartos. His next batch (coming soon) is SUPPOSE to have the fluffy airy fillers. We shall see.

 

[Katya]

I'm still using the AZ cartos. His next batch (coming soon) is SUPPOSE to have the fluffy airy fillers. We shall see.

Why does that make me nervous?

We shall see...

And I'm going to try them once again. I like them And not least of all is the amount of juice they hold. It's a real plus for em to fill those up and not have to worry about refilling for a while.. Though I like the Boge LRs and the E2s I didn't think of how often I'd end up refilling them compared to the Ego cartos.

Have a good Sunday everyone.

My main problem with those eGo and Joytech cartos is that they don't wick fast enough for me and I end up burning them. They are basically a hybrid, not really a cartomizer but an atty/cart combo in one unit, but they can't really be opened and maintained. I have more luck with traditional atomizers. How do you avoid burning them?

Platinum... I forgot what they were called
I call them BOGE, because they came in the same box that all the BOGE cartos i've ever ordered came in

Look Familiar? It even has the DeKang logo on the box
they also have my favorite white .... plugs. always easy to remove with my finger nail. I don't like the trueman style, which always tends to get lost somewhere

Ah, I never got a box... But I clicked on your link above and saw that he now carries 306 atomizers. I always wanted to try the cisco 306, but they are LR, 1.5Ω, so I was hesitant. These are 2.0Ω and are clearly not Cisco. They look a bit like the Bauway 306. Has anybody tried the 306 atties? Are they OK to use on the eGo?

Katya!

I'm moving away from the LR's (the mega eGo atty ones, anyway) on the TorneGoRivas too. While I've never had the battery problem mentioned, I've noticed that flavor is suffering.... (took a while but the regular mega eGo attys I have are working fine.

Wow! That's a surprise! I'm so glad you've moderated your position... Life is good in the center.

Well, center right--2.0-2.6Ω.

I'm with you on the Joye cartos as well - good... but a hassle, when there are others not so hard to fill that perform just fine. I got a good batch - well, on the two I tried anyway - of E2 R4 standard size from COV this week. I think it's the batch after the ones you got last week. And I put them in vodka before using and did a dry burn, etc. and so far performing well, with good flavor on a Bart and one on a Wetbox. And I still have my original E2 R? (R2 I believe) on another Wetbox from months ago now! The old one is 2.6Ω and the new one 2.5Ω. I do regular dry burns on those - something I never recommended because I lost two regular attys doing dry burns but I'm now thinking those may have been coincidence - not performing well - why I decided to try it and they burnt out, last leg, yada, yada... but since badkolo's demo, I haven't had a problem and I've been doing it with the mega attys as well with no problem. I'll still drop a lower performing atty/carto in vodka on occasion.

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Dr. Cuddy: Can we get out now?
House: I was so waiting for you to say that

I got them all to work, but it wasn't easy. Mine were bad, but a soak in vodka and a quick dry burn solved the problem. The standard ones (3.0Ω) work with and without the ptb. The XLs need to be modded bacause the wicks are way too short, but they didn't need cleaning. No "OMG water" in my XL cartos.

The ptb mod works, both with wicks cut off and with intact wicks. I just sort of shove the strips of the Lipton tea bags in, and they seem to help with the wicking. But it's a PITA. Really. Without all the help from Br and Bad and all the others on the E2 thread I would never have been able to get those cartos to work.

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Cuddy: It's gonna be great.
House: Yeah...

 

[zelda]

Katya I may be wrong but I don't think I ever burnt one. I broke open almost every one I had. I just filled them and vaped.

 

[Kent C]

Hey Katya. Hey Kent. The battery connects fell off the Ego mego cartomizers. Some of the cartos I used only a few times and off it came. But it was a bad batch I think now. And I'm going to try them once again. I like them And not least of all is the amount of juice they hold. It's a real plus for em to fill those up and not have to worry about refilling for a while.. Though I like the Boge LRs and the E2s I didn't think of how often I'd end up refilling them compared to the Ego cartos.

Have a good Sunday everyone.

zelda,

Ok. I had in my head it was the attys but this makes more sense - the attys are metal, cartos plastic body.... Still, even the cartos I had were ok - just that the atty/cart is easier to load.


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Taub: There's a mass lesion in the left anterior temporal lobe surrounded by edema.
House: Did you just insult me in Pig Latin?

 

[zelda]

Again it comes down to quality control. One batch is great - the next bad. I like living life on the edge so I'm going to try the mega cartos again..

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House: It's one of the great tragedies of life — something always changes

 

[Kent C]

Wow! That's a surprise! I'm so glad you've moderated your position... Life is good in the center.

Well, center right--2.0-2.6Ω.

The ptb mod works, both with wicks cut off and with intact wicks. I just sort of shove the strips of the Lipton tea bags in, and they seem to help with the wicking. But it's a PITA. Really. Without all the help from Br and Bad and all the others on the E2 thread I would never have been able to get those cartos to work.

I can do 1.8 but not 1.5 except the provapes which actually run 1.6 but there must be something else - wiring? something where they don't seem as hot as the 1.5 other than the 1/10 of ohm???

I refuse to put any filler in a 'non-filler' carto ....... and I'm not having problems with the standard size. I was going to go for the 3.0Ω but I sold my 5 volt! Really 'slimming' down to essentials. I'll also be selling my Big Brother, variable v. Hanging on to one Janty Stick.

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Dr. Wilson: (about Cuddy) Huh. This is actually good, House. She's committing crimes. What does that tell you?
House: I'm a horrible influence.
Dr. Wilson: True. A horrible influence she's reaching out to. She's looking for ways to connect. Sure, they're self-destructive, juvenile, and insane, but so are you.

 

[Kent C]

Again it comes down to quality control. One batch is great - the next bad. I like living life on the edge so I'm going to try the mega cartos again..

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House: It's one of the great tragedies of life — something always changes

zelda,

PM me and I'll send you four still in the wrappers...

 

[Katya]

Katya I may be wrong but I don't think I ever burnt one. I broke open almost every one I had. I just filled them and vaped.

I don't really burn them, like we used to burn the old style kr808 cartos; but I do get a bad taste, eventually, with both kinds (eGo and Joyetech). When I take them apart, I always find a seriously gunked up coil and a strand of filler, that strand that's attached to the atomizer unit, beginning to discolor and melt. I did wash it and the yellowish-brownish stain doesn't go away. Whatever that melting material is, I can taste it, and it drives me nuts.

 

[nicnac]

that doesn't sound healthy at all.
I bought a couple of ego cartos a few months ago. The second one is collecting dust.

 

[Katya]

I can do 1.8 but not 1.5 except the provapes which actually run 1.6 but there must be something else - wiring? something where they don't seem as hot as the 1.5 other than the 1/10 of ohm???

I refuse to put any filler in a 'non-filler' carto ....... and I'm not having problems with the standard size. I was going to go for the 3.0Ω but I sold my 5 volt! Really 'slimming' down to essentials. I'll also be selling my Big Brother, variable v. Hanging on to one Janty Stick.

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Dr. Wilson: (about Cuddy) Huh. This is actually good, House. She's committing crimes. What does that tell you?
House: I'm a horrible influence.
Dr. Wilson: True. A horrible influence she's reaching out to. She's looking for ways to connect. Sure, they're self-destructive, juvenile, and insane, but so are you.

Right now, Provapes only carries 1.8Ω LR cartos that look very much like Boge. Nothing 1.6Ω. I think Nic talked to them and was told that they alternate between two kinds of LR cartos. Nic, am I right?

I didn't plan on using any filler in non-filler cartos either, but the XLs really need it. That wick is just about 2.4 cm (in a 5 cm long carto). How assinine is that?

So the 2.5Ω batch from CoV is clean? I don't want to waste any more good vodka.

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Dr. Cuddy: Who cares about common? Common is boring.

 

[Katya]

that doesn't sound healthy at all.
I bought a couple of ego cartos a few months ago. The second one is collecting dust.

Hello, Nicnac. Use it, it's good for a while. It's actually nice--while it lasts.

 

[Katya]

As promised, here's an updated list of recommended cartomizers, by model. This is just a rough draft. Please look at the three (four?) lists and leave your comments. If I made a mistake, an omission, if you disagree with my assessment, or wish to add your own thoughts, please do so. I'll add it to the master list and when it's complete, we'll ask one of our benevolent mods to move it to the Master thread.


510

Bogetech - vertical wire - silver threads 3.0 ohms
Solid, burn resistant, long lasting. Highly recommended, especially for new vapers. Nice draw. LiteCig, Vapor Kings, Madvapes.

SLB - horizontal coil - brass threads - 3.0Ω
Generally very burn resistant, but but some people report burning them. A bit tighter draw than the Boge cartos, but possibly cleaner tasting. Long lasting and easy to use. IkenVape, LiteCig, Vapor Kings.

Tuofan – vertical coil – brass thread – 2.4Ω
Nice vape, good performer. Some minor quality control issues, but perfect resistance for the eGo/Riva batteries. Available from AZ Smoke Free, inexpensive.

Bauway – vertical coil – brass thread – 2.4Ω
Inconsistent. Good ones last and vape great, duds burn quickly. Madvapes.

Genuine Joyetech cartomizers – 2.6Ω
Worth trying. Basically an atty/cart combo in a sealed unit. Superb taste, very difficult to refill (a syringe is required), some quality control issues. Widely available: Cignot, Good Prophets, Clouds of Vapor, WordupEcig, Liberty Flights.

Ego Mega cartomizer – 2.6Ω, 2.5 ml capacity
A giant version of the Joyetech carto; similar performance and availability.

Bogetech LR 2.3-2.5Ω (IkenVape); 1.8-2.0Ω (LiteCig, ProVapes) – silver thread – vertical wire
Recommended for more experienced cartomizer users. These work very well but are more burn prone due to lower resistance. Need to be kept very wet at all times. Not recommended for HV vaping. [Provapes alternates between two kinds of LR cartos. Horizontal coil (SLB?) & vertical coil (Boge)].

Clouds of Vapor LR 510 cartos- vertical wire - ~1.8Ω. Similar to LR Boge but a different (undisclosed) manufacturer.

 

[Katya]

Kr808D-1

-VaporNine Turbos
-Nhaler Mega cartomizers
-V4L CoolCarts
-CigEasy Gold Label
-LiteCig Premium

Vertical wire - 3.1-3.4Ω - Solid performers, possibly all made by Boge, but they are not identical. Some work a bit better than others, especially when not overstuffed, which seems to be a problem with many cartomizers lately. Recommended for all new kr8 users at 3.7v batteries (standard kr808 D-1); and up to 5v (especially VaporNine Turbos and Nhaler Megas.)

IKV Mega Cartomizer – silver thread – 3.0Ω
New kid on the block. ~ 2.5 ml capacity; so far, nice taste and good performance. Time will tell.

V4L Premium and WOW cartomizers - vertical wire - 2.8Ω and under
More burn prone due to lower resistance. Proceed with caution. Not recommended for HV vaping.

Kanger - Vertical wire - 2.9Ω, blister packs
Widely available, inexpensive, not really recommended.

 

[Katya]

4081

SmokeStik-- horizontal coil - 3.4Ω
These seem to be very well built and the most burn resistant. Downside is they are prefilled and very expensive.

Good Prophets - made by LJT tech - horizontal coil - 3.0Ω
These are almost identical to the SmokeStik cartos, just some small differences in materials used and almost half the price of SS cartos. These are also burn resistant. Available both prefilled and blanks.

Trueman black label - vertical wire - 3.4Ω. Not recommended at this time. Used to be great, but the manufacturer changed the specs and the new cartos are prone to burning and shorting.

First Union--horizontal coil, very nicely made, solid, high resistance cartos—3.3-3.7Ω. Bit high for the 4081 3.4v supermini batteries, but might be very good for HV vaping (with an adapter). Available from Vapor Kings.

 

[Katya]

E2 series

New fillerless cartos from Royal Smokers. They jury is still out? Please share your findings.

U.S. vendors: Clouds of Vapor, Vapor Junction, Madvapes.

Take it away!

 

[tiburonfirst]

great job, katya

i'm still holding on to a very few horizontal 4081 truemans, guess i feel better knowing they are there for me should there be a rainy day, lol
atm i'm back to using an 808 c2 - early edition - courtesy of v1john and, without a doubt, when these fillerless cartos are working right there is just no comparison

 

[br5495]

510

Bogetech - vertical wire - silver threads 3.0 ohms
Solid, burn resistant, long lasting. Highly recommended, especially for new vapers. Nice draw. LiteCig, Vapor Kings, Madvapes.

Katya, you may want to add Nhaler as another source for this one. The Mega 510's I have from there were in a Dekang box and measure 3.0Ω. The web site states a bit higher ohm rating, but maybe their measurement did not allow for lead resistance.

 

[nicnac]

Katya,

Good job on the reviews. You should have put a disclaimer saying something like 'this review is only valid for the batches that I have tried".

Provapes 1.8Ω LR cartos. They alternate between two kinds of LR cartos.
Horizontal coil (SLB?) & vertical coil (Boge?).
I have only tried their horizontal cartos which were nice & clean, but the flavor did not last long.
Their current stock at the moment are the Vertical Boge style cartos. I believe Kent uses them and likes them very much.