Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos
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You can however stash an L88b behind an ear... especially comes in handy if you're clothing-free...
Which is the primary reason why I still keep my Revolver Elite around.....
Because I do so often find myself devoid of clothing.....
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I got more burnt taste from more Bloog cartos, and it wasn't even related to their resistance. I had a 2.6Ω carto burn on contact, while a 2.1Ω one worked fine for several refills. But they all do have that dull taste that bothers me, doesn't seem to bother others. This burning taste is a mystery, however. I hope Leaford can figure it.
Quick and LGD, this one is for you! I ordered another box of genuine Joye cartos from Cignot because I was curious how they would work when refilled/topped off from the battery end rather than with a syringe from the top. Lo and behold, it works. I remember it worked well with my GreenCig cartos so I decided to give it a try. The cartos last longer than those refilled with a syringe; however, they still don't wick fast enough for me and I do get that burnt/melted plastic taste, eventually. Oh, and one of them had a leaky seam. But at least I managed to get several successful top-offs. The taste and vapor production are great, but still not on top of my list.
The top of my 510 list is presently occupied by the eGo-T and my 2.0Ω Boges. I agree with Salt and others who complain that the draw is somewhat tight and some flavors--muted. It doesn't bother me too much, but I do understand that the high wattage people may not be completely satisfied. Maybe an LR version will be a solution for them. For people like me, who prefer a subtle, cooler vape, those tanks are almost perfect.
I'm just trying to understand why a 2.0Ω cartomizer delivers a considerably warmer, fuller vape than a 2.1Ω atty. Anybody?
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Sure does. Just look at Salt's avatar. Doesn't get any cooler than that.
I got more burnt taste from more Bloog cartos, and it wasn't even related to their resistance. I had a 2.6Ω carto burn on contact, while a 2.1Ω one worked fine for several refills. But they all do have that dull taste that bothers me, doesn't seem to bother others. This burning taste is a mystery, however. I hope Leaford can figure it.
Quick and LGD, this one is for you! I ordered another box of genuine Joye cartos from Cignot because I was curious how they would work when refilled/topped off from the battery end rather than with a syringe from the top. Lo and behold, it works. I remember it worked well with my GreenCig cartos so I decided to give it a try. The cartos last longer than those refilled with a syringe; however, they still don't wick fast enough for me and I do get that burnt/melted plastic taste, eventually. Oh, and one of them had a leaky seam. But at least I managed to get several successful top-offs. The taste and vapor production are great, but still not on top of my list.
The top of my 510 list is presently occupied by the eGo-T and my 2.0Ω Boges. I agree with Salt and others who complain that the draw is somewhat tight and some flavors--muted. It doesn't bother me too much, but I do understand that the high wattage people may not be completely satisfied. Maybe an LR version will be a solution for them. For people like me, who prefer a subtle, cooler vape, those tanks are almost perfect.
I'm just trying to understand why a 2.0Ω cartomizer delivers a considerably warmer, fuller vape than a 2.1Ω atty. Anybody?
Old business:
Problem is I like to have my PV hanging out of my mouth like a ciggie.
Sure does. Just look at Salt's avatar. Doesn't get any cooler than that.
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I never said it is impossible
.. just not ideal.. either too messy, wait to long to get an actual fill, or 'topping off' too often... but hey.. can't knock it if it works for some.FWIW.. the GreenCig cartos were female threaded and there is a direct path to the filler... and the only things that makes the GenJoye cartos a bit different.. 1. male connection with 510 vent holes 2. no 'direct path to filler from the hole.
I still love the GenJoyes but they are a bit fragile being plastic and all... and these new darn ego-t's took me away from using them for the time being
...Thanks for revisiting the bottom drip.. maybe I will give it a whirl when I pull one out again..
LGD
I revisited the bottom drip the other day.
Damn that was a good curry!!
you are too funny
LGD
I never said it is impossible
I can work but... think of the construction. As you come in through the threads there is the coil in an ari chamber. Above the coil there is the filler in the juice tube/container. The air path goes to the side of the tank. At the top of the tank there is that disk. The disk plugs that center fill tube into the tank and has a hole on the side for air coming up the side of the tank.
So. If you fill through the threads you're going to be forcing juice into that bottom air chamber. Some of it will go (slowly) into the bottom of the filler in the juice container and if you force it a little will follow the air path up the side, through the air hole in the disk and flood the top. Given enough time, the filler will wick up juice. Given a lot of time you could fill it. It's just not going to work as well or be anywhere near as efficient or fast as pulling the disk and injecting into the juice container from the top.
I never said it is impossible
LGD
Yeah, thanks for raining on my parade.
Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. But it didn't last very long at all...
You're both correct, of course, but I thought I'd give it a shot. My problem with top filling is that it's messy and the juice is delivered on the far side, away from the atty coil, and has to travel all the way down through that filler, and that also takes time, in my experience. Besides, no matter how gentle one is with that needle, the filler gets compacted and eventually gets squished onto the coil, and that is not a good thing.
Alright, back to my tankomizers.
I revisited the bottom drip the other day.
Damn that was a good curry!!
Arjay!!!!
haha, "dragged kicking and screaming"...
You insert needle about 5 mm into hole (I don't think it even contacts the filler).
You press plunger about as fast as the juice will go through the needle and watch for it to fill up the air passage.
(This means you've forced the juice *through* the filler and it's completely saturated).
Remove needle from center filler tube and insert into side air passage/well.
Suck out excess.
If you're really particular about possible seepage before using you can reinsert needle into filler hole and suck the excess liquid (sitting on top of the filler) out of there until it draws air. Now you only have saturated filler in the juice container.
Wipe off needle with napkin or bottom of t-shirt.
Assuming you start the clock when initially inserting the needle, total elapsed time : ~5 seconds.
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Katya.
I bought 10 carto's and filled 4 (bloogs).
The Dk Choc (J.C.), mixed 30% w/ vodka burnt before the first refill, and I tapped it up to see if I could drown out the burn taste. I caught it at the first puff with a burn taste.
Well, not perfect, but better and I am living with it. Not as bad as past brand carto's. I used the vodka because that juice is sooo thick it's a carto killer fast without the mix.
The other 3 are fine and have been tapped up 2 times so far. Other 3 are (JC) Tenn Cured (vg)., Domestic(vg), Domestic/Camel (50/50 vg/pg).
I'm beginning to believe the fluid is key, and carto secondary.
I bought 10 carto's and filled 4 (bloogs).
The Dk Choc (J.C.), mixed 30% w/ vodka burnt before the first refill, and I tapped it up to see if I could drown out the burn taste. I caught it at the first puff with a burn taste.
Well, not perfect, but better and I am living with it. Not as bad as past brand carto's. I used the vodka because that juice is sooo thick it's a carto killer fast without the mix.
The other 3 are fine and have been tapped up 2 times so far. Other 3 are (JC) Tenn Cured (vg)., Domestic(vg), Domestic/Camel (50/50 vg/pg).
I'm beginning to believe the fluid is key, and carto secondary.
Go ahead, gloat. I can take it.
Yeah, right. How about we start the clock at the beginning of the filling process... take the carto out of its wrapper...GO.
I think the carto is key, the liquid is secondary. A good cartomizer should be able to vaporize at least 2-3 ml of e-liquid without major problems. My good cartos do that. However, I've never tried your infamous chocolate.
Sorry Katya, sometimes I can't control myself. That night happened to be one of them. muhaha. Sorry, I've Brittany Spears'ed it. (For those who are guessing - Ooops I did it again!)
11.6 seconds (but I dropped the top cap when I popped it out with my finger nail and had to find it on the carpet)
Katya.
It's brutal.
The JC Dk Choc, uncut clogs the crap outa em. With a 30% vodka, it helps, but they still go down.
Normally I'm not into flavors of that sort, but it has an un/semi,sweet dk choc taste I really like.
If I was smart, I would just give up on it, but if anything is going to test a carto, this is the fluid to use. If they survive this, they're a good carto. Bloog failed me.
Well , It didn't die but it scorched, so is that a fail?
Le'Pig
It's brutal.
The JC Dk Choc, uncut clogs the crap outa em. With a 30% vodka, it helps, but they still go down.
Normally I'm not into flavors of that sort, but it has an un/semi,sweet dk choc taste I really like.
If I was smart, I would just give up on it, but if anything is going to test a carto, this is the fluid to use. If they survive this, they're a good carto. Bloog failed me.
Well , It didn't die but it scorched, so is that a fail?
Le'Pig
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hence the no direct path comment (which you didn't quote
)I was trying not to bring the rain down too hard
I love parades 4 minutes and 11.6 seconds here.
It is in my book.
hence the no direct path comment (which you didn't quote
I was trying not to bring the rain down too hard
Oh, how kind of you. I appreciate the sentiment.
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