Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[Neo]

Thanks to Tweety bringing this up, I've been vaping the Ego-T on an 808 batt with adapter. Yeah, it looks funny but no funnier than some of the mods out there. Vape on a box much?

If these were a tad less pricey and I could figure out a system to keep 12 flavors in rotation like with cartos, I swear I'd switch.

I think they do use more juice...a tank lasts about 45 minutes of chain vaping. But I DIY so juice is pretty cheap for me.

It puts out tons of vape and a nice clean taste to me.

I did get a burnt taste that some folks talk about. I blew it out and dry burned and it was gone so I think it was just some burned on gunky juice causing the taste.

Happy as a pig in s**t right now.

And yeah, I can still dangle it out of my mouth and look cool. You guys crack me up.

 

[ImYourSalt]

New business:

I got more burnt taste from more Bloog cartos, and it wasn't even related to their resistance. I had a 2.6Ω carto burn on contact, while a 2.1Ω one worked fine for several refills. But they all do have that dull taste that bothers me, doesn't seem to bother others. This burning taste is a mystery, however. I hope Leaford can figure it.

Quick and LGD, this one is for you! I ordered another box of genuine Joye cartos from Cignot because I was curious how they would work when refilled/topped off from the battery end rather than with a syringe from the top. Lo and behold, it works. I remember it worked well with my GreenCig cartos so I decided to give it a try. The cartos last longer than those refilled with a syringe; however, they still don't wick fast enough for me and I do get that burnt/melted plastic taste, eventually. Oh, and one of them had a leaky seam. But at least I managed to get several successful top-offs. The taste and vapor production are great, but still not on top of my list.

The top of my 510 list is presently occupied by the eGo-T and my 2.0Ω Boges. I agree with Salt and others who complain that the draw is somewhat tight and some flavors--muted. It doesn't bother me too much, but I do understand that the high wattage people may not be completely satisfied. Maybe an LR version will be a solution for them. For people like me, who prefer a subtle, cooler vape, those tanks are almost perfect.

I'm just trying to understand why a 2.0Ω cartomizer delivers a considerably warmer, fuller vape than a 2.1Ω atty. Anybody?

Old business:

Sure does. Just look at Salt's avatar. Doesn't get any cooler than that.

I noticed that burnt juice flavor from the bloogs too. I have zero issues with my Boge. Im not looking for anything right now either.

I still dont like Joye cartos. i think they hit great, but are extrremely unpredictable, and a pita.

MikeyB told me this... The ego T cart controls the airflow... not the atty. Try opening, or closing the air flow channels on the carto, to taste.

I just tried it... It seems to help, but if I draw on the atty, without a cart, it is pretty stiff anyhow. not like drawing air though a carto.
It's worth a shot i guess.

As to why the carto delivers a different vape than the atty of near identical resistance? The first thing that comes to mind, is Leaford's elegant description of how a cartomizer is a system. This system, though based on the same principles as an atomizer, is not identical. My thought, is that the differences aren't merely structural.
I also find that I enjoy the flavor of a carto over an atty. These differences, for me, have been changes for the better.

I I kinda like Zelda's Avi right now...

----Edit:
Ha! Just thinking about it, and I stuttered!

 

[Neo]

Ciggie dangling...see how easy it is?

 

[earthpig]

Not sure how well this has been covered and I tried to scan through some previous posts, but we're hitting a lot of pages here.
I play with a 510 model but my mainstay is the KR808D-1.
When I open up a 510 carto it just looks better.The vape is as strong and the taste is smoother. I've yet to notice a burned 510, but am not saying it doesn't happen, and have little experience thus far with them.

So, is anyone emulating the 510 design in the KR- carto's? If so, how does it work?
I have yet to see total satisfaction here on a "burn" level. Do 510's do better? If so, why aren't we spending a little time discussing their performance (or am I missing it?)?

I also am curious where to get adapters to use the KR- batteries and 510 carto's

Thanks, and sorry if I'm repeating past discussions.
Pig.

 

[Katya]

Thanks to Tweety bringing this up, I've been vaping the Ego-T on an 808 batt with adapter. Yeah, it looks funny but no funnier than some of the mods out there. Vape on a box much?

And yeah, I can still dangle it out of my mouth and look cool. You guys crack me up.

You're so stubborn, Neo!

OK, step 2 in our program: enter this contest.

If you win, problem solved. If you don't, we'll move on to step 3.

 

[Katya]

MikeyB told me this... The ego T cart controls the airflow... not the atty. Try opening, or closing the air flow channels on the carto, to taste.

I just tried it... It seems to help, but if I draw on the atty, without a cart, it is pretty stiff anyhow.

And how do I close/open the airflow channels in a tank?

I also find that I enjoy the flavor of a carto over an atty. These differences, for me, have been changes for the better.

Funny, I like them both. I like the action of a 2.0Ω Boge, the warmth, the responsiveness and the draw. What I love about my tanks is the fact that I don't have to worry about this stupid burning anymore. I know that as long as there's juice in my tank, I'm safe, and that lets me enjoy my vaping so much more. I didn't even realize how much this burning anxiety interfered with my vaping. Somewhere, somehow, my mind was always on high alert--I was anticipating that dreaded moment. With the tank--it's all gone. No more worries--just pure pleasure and complete relaxation.

I I kinda like Zelda's Avi right now...

----Edit:
Ha! Just thinking about it, and I stuttered!

Zelda's avatars have this effect on men. Now snap out of it and concentrate on cartomizers, please.

 

[Katya]

I play with a 510 model but my mainstay is the KR808D-1.
When I open up a 510 carto it just looks better.The vape is as strong and the taste is smoother. I've yet to notice a burned 510, but am not saying it doesn't happen, and have little experience thus far with them.

So, is anyone emulating the 510 design in the KR- carto's? If so, how does it work?
I have yet to see total satisfaction here on a "burn" level. Do 510's do better? If so, why aren't we spending a little time discussing their performance (or am I missing it?)?

I also am curious where to get adapters to use the KR- batteries and 510 carto's

Thanks, and sorry if I'm repeating past discussions.
Pig.

I have no idea why the kr808 cartos are not as good the 510s; they are, after all, manufactured by Boge. Well, most of them are. There was a kr8 carto once, in May, introduced by VaporNine, that was really good. But only the very first two or three shipments were great; then something happened. I think this is one of the reasons people are flocking to the 510 model. I never understood it myself. You'd think that the insides are identical, the only difference should be in the threading, but that is not the case.

I hope Neo will be able to tell you more about the kr808 cartos--she's still using them. I think she likes the Boge kr8 from LiteCig and the kr8 from Vapors Etc. IkenVape and Nhaler have the XL versions (2 ml) of the Boge kr808 and some people like it. You can order just a couple of them from IKV if you want to try them. But I agree with you that 510s just seem to be better made. I had hopes for the Bloog cartos. I hope Leaford can figure out what the heck is going on with them. I've read so many reports about this burning taste that I know it wasn't just me.

On the other hand, BR managed to refill his Bloog like 100 times, so there. But BR can make anything work, I can't.

You can get adapters from the Good Prophets for $0.99, or from LiteCig, Liberty Flights or MadVapes for a bit more. You want the stainless steel adjustable kind.

 

[br5495]

On the other hand, BR managed to refill his Bloog like 100 times, so there. But BR can make anything work, I can't.

The BR Touch can't quite measure up to the Midas Touch, heheh.

 

[Quick1]

Do 510's do better? If so, why aren't we spending a little time discussing their performance (or am I missing it?)?

I am a big fan of the Joye 510 cartos. Katya not so much.

 

[Neo]

You're so stubborn, Neo!

OK, step 2 in our program: enter this contest.

If you win, problem solved. If you don't, we'll move on to step 3.

Better move on to step 3.

It's true I'm stubborn (and not just about vaping!) but I honestly tried one of those big ole push button things. I bought one of these a year ago:

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Although it works fine, it's collecting dust.

Plus I'm stock piled on bats that will last me to armageddon.

I'll try to take a pic to show you. It really doesn't look that funny! Oh yeah, roll on the floor laughing why don't ya?

Anyway, back on topic. Sure wish they'd get those Bloog's stable.

 

[Katya]

EGO T is a pretty nice system.

The only thing I dont like about it, is it doesnt have the 'wide-open draw', or the HEAT, that the BOGE 2Ω cartos possess.

Looky here, Salt. I found it in the Ego-T thread, provided by our Italian friend, Ournature. 1.8Ω eGo-T atty. Are you paying attention yet?

 

[Katya]

The BR Touch can't quite measure up to the Midas Touch, heheh.

I wouldn't be so sure.

Hello, BR! Long time..

I am a big fan of the Joye 510 cartos. Katya not so much.

Not true. I like them a lot. I keep buying them over and over again. But they are high maintenance, and I don't want high maintenance. Have you tried the Boge 2.0Ω cartos, Quick?

Better move on to step 3.

Plus I'm stock piled on bats that will last me to armageddon.

I'll try to take a pic to show you. It really doesn't look that funny! Oh yeah, roll on the floor laughing why don't ya?

Anyway, back on topic. Sure wish they'd get those Bloog's stable.

Picture would be nice.

There's not going to be a step 3. I don't proselytize. If you love your small batteries you should stay with them. I understand the pleasure of handling those mini or supermini batts. I really do. I still use my SmokeStik and my kr808 on occasion, especially when I'm driving or when I need to stealth vape. It's nice to hold a battery that feels like a cig. But since I have zero need to dangle my ecig from my lips... I'm happy with my fat batts.

 

[Quick1]

Not true. I like them a lot. I keep buying them over and over again. But they are high maintenance, and I don't want high maintenance. Have you tried the Boge 2.0Ω cartos, Quick?

Currently I have withdrawn from the commercial vaping world. I'm using a Genisis. The Joye 510 cartos were the last (and best) cartos/attys I got to. Now I just carry a few with me as emergency backup in case of equipment failure/tradgedy.

 

[Katya]

Currently I have withdrawn from the commercial vaping world. I'm using a Genisis. The Joye 510 cartos were the last (and best) cartos/attys I got to. Now I just carry a few with me as emergency backup in case of equipment failure/tradgedy.

Ahhh... Did you make your own? Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[Quick1]

Ahhh... Did you make your own? Pictures or it didn't happen.

POC made the parts. Then you have to wire it and assemble it. After that it's a matter of replacing the mesh wick and kanthal coil as needed. It's permanent, you can adjust wicking (it will wick more than enough for any configuration) and heat and vapor and throat hit and draw. and it's not possible to burn anything. You can clean stuff but you can replace the stainless steel mesh and kanthal for less than $0.10 so it's more of whether it's easier to clean or replace. Holds 3 ml.

I've taken to direct inhaling. Full deep breath in 2 seconds you can suck enough to fog the back yard. It's sitting on top of a BB in a couple of pics and on my Silver Bullet in the last one.

 

[Katya]

Oh dear Lord.... This is one serious PV.

What are the chances something like this will be commercially available? [In women's sizes, preferably. ]

Oh, I like your keyboard. Is it comfortable?

 

[Quick1]

Oh dear Lord.... This is one serious PV.

What are the chances something like this will be commercially available? [In women's sizes, preferably. ]

I assume someone will make them available assembled, but who knows when. raidy came up with the idea but said he is working on a different kind (presumed to be a wick/mesh that doesn't require a coil and heats by induction).
This kind will probably never be in women's size although people have made them in smaller than cigar size (batt included). Other's are putting them in things like a juice box. It's all mods/modders though. Most people are going for the tank and then you need some room up top to easily connect the coil and work with the mesh without requiring a microscope and surgeons tools. 3 ml lasts me about a day and a half. About the same as my 18650 battery. Fill it up and you're good for more than a day. Not for everybody I suppose.

Oh, I like your keyboard. Is it comfortable?

Extremely. I've used this kind for almost 10 years now? Takes just a very little time to adjust to the key placement initially and then it's orders of magnitude better. Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard v1.0. It is wired though. Logitech makes one as well. They are both great but the MS one is a bit more comfortable and a nicer wrist pad. Logitech has a wireless one too. I don't think MS has a wireless one? have to look at the one I have at work... it's wireless, might be MS. I think the one in the pic is a wired logitech I have at work. The wireless one is on the pc outside of the pic to the left. The wired MS is here at home... I type a lot.

 

[IOU]

Very cool!

 

[earthpig]

WOOF.
That succer will get you pulled aside at the airport. Don't put it in your underwear ...Ha!
Would love to see a schematic or parts breakdown of that thing.

Woof...wait pigs don't woof !
SNORT !

 

[br5495]

I wouldn't be so sure.
Hello, BR! Long time..

Yeah, I feel a bit out of place on the forums nowadays. Like Quick1, my latest builds have put me in a different world and I have less in common to share with my vaping friends. I sincerely wish that everyone could be as content with their devices as I am with mine.

I still monitor a few threads though, so I am not completely out of touch. I'm still experimenting too, and have a few ideas that I want to try.