Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos
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thanks katya for your reply but are these made by boge? i dont see that in the description?
Yes, they are. Liberty Flights identifies them as Boge, and they are in stock.
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And these are the same Boge kr808 premium cartomizers from LiteCig:
KR808d-1 PREMIUM Blank Cartomizers
They are ~3.1Ω or so. If you want HR Boge kr808 cartos, Vapors Etc has them (and Nhaler, where they are called Mega). Those are around 3.4Ω, suitable for higher voltages than stock kr808 3.7v batteries.
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And these are the same Boge kr808 premium cartomizers from LiteCig:
KR808d-1 PREMIUM Blank Cartomizers
They are ~3.1Ω or so. If you want HR Boge kr808 cartos, Vapors Etc has them (and Nhaler, where they are called Mega). Those are around 3.4Ω, suitable for higher voltages than stock kr808 3.7v batteries.
Still got 60 of the CE-2's left br, so spill the details. Please don't make me go to the bloog maxxfusion thread.
BTW, what would happen if you dunk your CE-2 into a lid full of PG mouth end first so the coil is just covered by the juice, and then press the battery button. Would it clean the gunk off the coil or just blow the thing up. I ask you as you probably have tried it. If not, I am more than willing to give it a go as long as I don't blow my battery.
rj, pg and vg are pretty much non-conductive (at least juice is non-conductive). Current will still go through the coil and not short through the pg. But I suspect boiling the coil in pg isn't going to clean much of anything... especially with the coil being the heat source boiling the pg.
Well heck. Now I gotta do a bunch of typing, which I was hoping to get out of. But just for you arjay .............
The BRRDB may not be for everybody, but you may want to try it. It only works well for me if 3ml of juice or less has been run through the cartridge. This dry burn is done when a dry taste occurs from a tank that has been vaped completely empty. There will still be some juice in the wicks. Instead of drawing on the cartridge for another dry hit, blow gently through it instead. Use just enough pressure to make the vapor come out through the battery fittings. I do a 10 second blow with the button depressed, then release the button and continue blowing for 10 more seconds. This cools everything down. If the wick was dry enough to begin with, there should be some white ash showing on the coil. If not, another blow or two may be necessary. I usually see ash on the first try, and sometimes the entire coil is completely covered with it. I leave the ash alone and do another burn and blow, maybe for good measure or maybe because it needs it. There should not be very much vapor coming out between the fittings on the final blow. Then I leave the ash there and fill the tank with juice.
Leaving the ash there may not work for you, but it does not change the taste of my juice. It is my new found friend. It will quickly absorb the new juice and make the coil wet. Black crud will begin mixing with it right away, so it's not a pretty sight after a few drags. I try not to think about the nasty and once I get past the thought, I enjoy the goodie. A small amount of additional ash is there after later burns, but not enough to cause a problem. I don't know how many times I can do this without additional cleaning. I have been testing multiple E2's this way, so have not kept a count. I'd say that some of them have been done this way for at least a half dozen times or more.
Leaving the ash alone is not the only thing that I am doing now. I also leave the wick alone after it has been setup for use. I don't wash it, don't pick at it, don't fluff it, or anything else. I try not to even look at it, heheh. My wife has been using four R3's since August and has done nothing to them except fill and vape. I don't expect to get that much service out of mine, but I expect to have fewer failures.
WARNING My E2's are 3Ω and I dry burn them with a 3.2 volt eGo pass through battery. I do not recommend a burn longer than about 10 seconds. The coil gets hotter than usual when this method is used and this is one of the reasons for the cool down mentioned above. If the resistance of yours is less or the voltage is higher, reduce the burn time. I had to learn this the hard way.
About the C-E2 dunk. I'll let you be the one to try that. It shouldn't hurt anything, but I doubt if the coil will heat up enough to do anything.
Thanks for the info,br. I'll give it ago next time I'm empty.
I'll let you know how the 'wick dip burn' goes.
I'll let you know how the 'wick dip burn' goes.
This method works best if the coil is clean or new to begin with. Also it works better if the coil is not wound too tight on the wick. If you count 6 loops on a 3Ω coil, it is too tight.
Very interesting discussion.
I've been using my tankomizers almost exclusively for over a month now and following LGD's tip I'm trying to just vape a tank or two of unflavored juice to (hopefully) clean/maintain my atomizer. I've been following this new regimen for 10-14 days or so and I'm actually surprised at how well it works. I haven't boiled/soaked in vodka/dry burned my atties and they are fine. When my unflavored PG turns a nasty brown color in the tank, I blind vape without inhalling for awhile, empty the tank, blow out the nasties through the battery end and repeat until the juice runs clear. The coil and the wick don't look as clean as after a dry burn, but the atty works fine and I don't detect any off flavors.
I know it's not the same thing that you're doing, BR, but there is something to this PG bath, I think. PG is a solvent, after all.
I've been using my tankomizers almost exclusively for over a month now and following LGD's tip I'm trying to just vape a tank or two of unflavored juice to (hopefully) clean/maintain my atomizer. I've been following this new regimen for 10-14 days or so and I'm actually surprised at how well it works. I haven't boiled/soaked in vodka/dry burned my atties and they are fine. When my unflavored PG turns a nasty brown color in the tank, I blind vape without inhalling for awhile, empty the tank, blow out the nasties through the battery end and repeat until the juice runs clear. The coil and the wick don't look as clean as after a dry burn, but the atty works fine and I don't detect any off flavors.
I know it's not the same thing that you're doing, BR, but there is something to this PG bath, I think. PG is a solvent, after all.
Just saw this in another thread. What do you think about these? Another version of Royal Smokers' E2 cartos?
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Looks very interesting Katya. It must have the coil in the bottom section as I can't see any wires and stuff up top, just the mouth cap.
It's all about competition. The more competition between manufacturers the better for us consumers. It'll get them off their duff and designing real improvements, and keep the prices in check (we hope). This is a good thing even if it doesn't turn out to be a world beater in performance.
I saw that too. It appears to be a Kanger product, which I find to be quite interesting.
cartomizers last longer if you top them off when they are new. they dont ship them full, cause they would leak and the juice would cost more. so you are starting less than full. just like priming an atty. also, they dont preheat the juice, i bet. im sure it would help if you topped off with WARM juice. it would flow easier.
I'm too lazy to try to find the thread where you saw this initially. Any word on when it's hitting the states? Since I'm the 808 lover, it's screaming my name!
Drew at Nhaler just brought some back from China but they're not for sale yet - having some issues with them...... YouTube - New Products at Nhaler
It appears that they use the same type plastic tube as the Clearomizer C-E2, which has the same cracking problem. It's a mystery to me why this tube was used for manufacturing a cartomizer. It's even a greater mystery why some people are accepting the Clearomizer and keep on buying more after their first ones fall apart.
Me, I don't care what kind of a tube the new KR8's have. I can fix that. I want to know what they do to make them work.
Yeah, Drew's video tells the story. Thanks, Beachpuff!
Even in the picture, they look awfully flimsy. I had zero luck with clearomizers. I tried the syringe mod, not much better.
The only CE2 carto that worked for me was the R3 doctored by BR. But I have no patience, time or desire to deal with the cleaning, torching and such. And filling them is a major PITA. The same goes for the eGo cartos and Joyetech cartomizers. Any design that requires a syringe and a needle to fill the carto is just flawed, IMO. Really, cartomizers were supposed to be convenient, and those things are more trouble than any 3-piece setup I've ever tried.
Even in the picture, they look awfully flimsy. I had zero luck with clearomizers. I tried the syringe mod, not much better.
The only CE2 carto that worked for me was the R3 doctored by BR. But I have no patience, time or desire to deal with the cleaning, torching and such. And filling them is a major PITA. The same goes for the eGo cartos and Joyetech cartomizers. Any design that requires a syringe and a needle to fill the carto is just flawed, IMO. Really, cartomizers were supposed to be convenient, and those things are more trouble than any 3-piece setup I've ever tried.
Welcome, Melder.
Cartomizers are prefilled with the recommended amount of juice at the factory, usually ~1 ml for standard cartos. Adding a few drops to a new carto is probably beneficial and helps to refresh a carto, but you have to remember that an overfilled carto is just as bad as an underfilled one.
Warming juice? Hmmm... I don't really know why that would be necessary. The 100% PG (or the 80/20 PG/VG blend) formula used in most prefilled cartos is very thin.
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