Buying ingredients around town?

[JD1]

........ Some extracts, like Vanilla, often have PG or VG, Alcohol and pure extract, which is okay, but if there's anything else, I'd skip it and move on to something else. ........

I'll second that, and most of the vanilla extracts have corn syrup. I've just been trying some Rawleigh vanilla and it was a no go. It lists corn syrup as an ingredient but doesn't say how much. I was hoping there wasn't enough to make a difference but it proved to be a coil gunker, big time. It was delicious but I won't be using any more of it.

I may try the Watkins. It lists glucose which is a sugar but it might not be added sugar, just what's from the alcohol and vanilla bean itself (I'm probably just hoping against hope here lol).

 

[Electraglide1]

Never mind-I got it. Cobwebs cleared briefly.

 

[JD1]

./.... I found a local pharmacy that sells it in 99.5% purity. I guess the other .5% is contaminants. But would that level of purity be safe?......(online)

I read somewhere that the .5% is water. Personally, I think food grade is good enough for vg, but usp is readily available so why not use it. I usually order a quart at a time from essentials.

 

[Racehorse]

to start DIY, you can get the humco VG at walmart, distilled water, and some food flavorings like watkins in the baking section.

I like those towns where they won't give walmart the necessary building permits, cause it changes the town and kills all the small businesses.

Can go either way. My little town of 5,000 was drying up, until super walmart came, many new smaller businesses grew up "around it" that would not have been there w/out Walmart as the "anchor" store.

Plus there are a lot more jobs than the "1" job our local mom and pop stores were able to supply in each of their stores...

 

[Electraglide1]

I found my VG, now looking to buy PG locally. No luck so far.

 

[glasseye]

I found my VG, now looking to buy PG locally. No luck so far.

Tractor Supply has some and it says USP on it, BUT I haven't used it and can't tell you anything more. All I know it's in the Animal Health section. Hopefully someone can tell you if it's OK to vape.
Sometimes vape shops that sell their own e-liquids will sell plain PG. Couldn't hurt to ask.

 

[thatguy2]

In TERRELL and MESQUITE you'll find Tractor Supply.. google "Tractor Supply" for other locations around Dallas-Ft Worth..
At Tractor Supply you'll find --> Ideal Animal Health Propylene Glyco, 1 gal. - Tractor Supply Co.
It's located in the animal health section.. while your there, grab ya some syringes, they are only 21 cents each..

 

[Bennylava]

That link said animal versions could very well kill you. Give you popcorn lung. And it will taste like popcorn.

 

[thatguy2]

see also this thread --> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/479566-buying-pg-locally.html

and search the forum for "tractor supply".. lot's of DIY folks use it..

 

[thatguy2]

That link said animal versions could very well kill you. Give you popcorn lung. And it will taste like popcorn.

if you look at the picture, it's 99.9% pure USP.. same stuff everyone else is selling at 50 dollars a gallon..

 

[Electraglide1]

I know TS in Mesquite. I wasn't sure if the animal stuff was the same or not but if it's 99.5% pure I can't imagine any difference except price.

 

[Nu2Dis]

Glycerin would be VG - Vegetable Glycerin

PG is propylene Glycol; it is not readily available in any drug stores that I know of.

Ask the pharmacist to point you toward the Glycerin. It can be in different areas, in different stores; most likely near the pharmacy area.

 

[Crunktanium]

same stuff everyone else is selling at 50 dollars a gallon..

Just bought a Gal of PG and VG from Essential Depot a week ago with free shipping.

I don't even need to leave the comfort of my home to save money on that deal.

 

[Bennylava]

if you look at the picture, it's 99.9% pure USP.. same stuff everyone else is selling at 50 dollars a gallon..

Thank you sir. But I am looking to do a VG only DIY ejuice. But is that even advisable? Is there any reason I shouldn't? Why do they even bother to mix VG and PG anyway? Why not just go all VG, or all PG?

 

[thatguy2]

Thank you sir. But I am looking to do a VG only DIY ejuice. But is that even advisable? Is there any reason I shouldn't? Why do they even bother to mix VG and PG anyway? Why not just go all VG, or all PG?

That takes the conversation in a totally new direction.. if going all VG, you'd need to get VG based flavorings. Otherwise you have a VG/PG mix because most flavorings are PG based..
Then you need to look at your equipment.. a lot of clearomizors / cartomizors won't do well with heavy VG.. it's a wicking issue.. if your dripping, then all VG would be OK.. other option is to thin the VG with distilled water or pure grain alcohol..
All PG liquid is OK also, but does not produce much vapor.. so if your one who needs big clouds, you won't get them with all PG..

 

[Crunktanium]

Why not just go all VG, or all PG?

PG = More Flavor (better flavor carrier and also helps to thin VG)
VG = More Vapor (sweet and thicker vape at the cost of less flavor)

 

[Bennylava]

I guess I am going to get some PG then. But I prefer larger amounts of VG than PG, at least 70vg/30pg. But maybe more like 80/20

 

[Electraglide1]

I started by ordering max vg nic juice from Mt Baker and have pg coming from Essential Depot (Amazon) and will go from there. You can get your initial nic juice any way you want it for a base.

 

[Electraglide1]

I checked out the PG @ Tractor Supply yesterday. Theirs was Ideal brand, was marked not for human consumption and had no foil seal on the top. Think I'll stick with Essential labs.

 

[MD_Boater]

Not according to the link to the sticky, provided by another member in this thread. It says that USP could be food grade, which may or may not be suitable for inhalation. So does anyone know for sure what the percentage is that is safe?

Benny... I have a friend that works for USP. If the label says "USP" on it and the vendor is not flat out lying, it conforms to the USP monograph. I was sitting in a restaurant within view of the USP HQ building in Rockville, MD with a USP employee (that I have known since I was 5) who told me that.

He was even wearing a shirt that said "USP" on it while we were having lunch.