Buying VG locally. Criminal connection?
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Last time I was at the store with my wife I decided to try and track down some PG to kill time. Didn't bother asking anyone where it was because I didn't feel like explaining why I wanted it. Anyways at my local meijer ( kinda like Walmart) I found it in the first aid section right beside the sweet oil on the bottom shelf.
and yes, glycerin is used in making explosives. Nitroglycerin to be exact. Nitric acid plus sulfuric acid plus glycerin= BOOM. Can be used for several other not so illegal things as well by the home chemist. Add diatomaceous earth and u have dynamite.
So basically, tell them you are making bubbles or home-made soap, or using as skin protectant (instead of ecig juice and/or molotov coctails.) 
Walmart in particular has to be careful of what they sell, you know they will be snowed under with hate mail and such if they sell anything that anybody has a "problem" with them selling. :rolls eyes: (Thanks to some people trying to dictate the lifestyles and choices other people make, it appears that a consumer can't even buy stuff anymore that is LEGAL to buy.) That includes both stuff that is over-the-counter as well as even prescriptions now.
Walmart in particular has to be careful of what they sell, you know they will be snowed under with hate mail and such if they sell anything that anybody has a "problem" with them selling. :rolls eyes: (Thanks to some people trying to dictate the lifestyles and choices other people make, it appears that a consumer can't even buy stuff anymore that is LEGAL to buy.) That includes both stuff that is over-the-counter as well as even prescriptions now.
Exactly! I just saw this post and was about to point out that glycerin is the nitrating agent in nitroglycerin...
Next time you eat a hamburger wonder if the cow was fed toothpaste grade PG.
Don't have to worry about that. I know the farmers and the butchers and slaughter houses. Heck I can even point out the hog field the local Pizza Hut chain buys from for their sausage. There are some advantages to being surrounded by farms. Don't know a one of them that skims on the care of their animals/livelyhood.
(Besides the obvious of knowing which type of seed and soil make for the best sweet corn to ever burst across your teeth.)
VG seems to be one of those things that stores carry, but they don't seem to know where to put it. Sometimes it's in the First Aid Dept., sometimes it's in the Beauty and Skin Care Dept. Sometimes it's in the Baking Dept.
SCOURED a Walgreens today looking for some. Was positive they would. Might have to go to the evil Wally World or Hobby Lobby, I suppose. Good thread, good info, thanks.
Hobby Lobby is always the easiest place to find VG for me.It is ALWAYS in the cake aisle where the "frosting" is.
My roommate was vaping at a bar the other night, and ran into someone who was vaping something medical, using equipment that looked the same (but probably had at least slightly different guts and electrical properties at the top.)
So PG and VG may go the way of Sudafed someday and require scanning your driver's license. I sure hope not, the harm level is totally opposite.
So PG and VG may go the way of Sudafed someday and require scanning your driver's license. I sure hope not, the harm level is totally opposite.
vegetable glycerin is sold all over as a skin care and soap additive, I have bought it by the gallons when making soap and creams. bnrk
Glycerine, USP is what I found at Rite-Aid. In the first aid aisle. Milage may vary though.
" The grade" at my Tractor Supply says "for animal use only".
The THREAD; PURITY OF PG, VG AND PEG- THE SHORT VERSION, BY ROLYGATE, talks about this, but does leave one aliitle confused when it also says- "PG and VG are both sold in pharma grade for inhalation and are labeled: Propylene Glycol, USP. Glycerine, USP.
In any case, i went with Amazon.com for my PG and VG and bought what was sold by Froggy's Fog.
The PG is 99.9% PURE USP FOOD GRADE
THE VG IS 99.7% PURE KOSHER FOOD GRADE
I have not found an equal or greater level of purity locally
You are confusing marketing labeling with grade, but that's OK as whatever makes you feel better about it is fine with me. You'll notice the label of the TS PG is "Propylene Glycol USP" which matches up pretty well with the Purity thread's wording. The marketing department can put many other things on the label without violating the regulations even "for external use only" if that is the market they wish to target. (For that see any number of USP VG's labels which brings me to the next point.)
Froggy's sells some good stuff, but you note the VG they have is not up to the USP grade. They could be starting with USP and rebottle, but the rebottling site's conditions don't meet the standards, so the label on the smaller bottles cannot have the USP designation.
I will agree that the Purity thread does leave quite a bit of room for confusion. I've been doing this for a little while and I even have a good friend who runs a number of compounding pharmacies and neither of us find the wording of the purity thread clear.
Just to chime in here, I posted some months back that almost all "personal" lubricants are made with a blend of PG/VG. So ahem in the event one would run out of said personal lubricants, one could, theoretically at least, make their own.
Put that bit of marketing on the label and I don't care what kind of purity grade info is on it, there would be even more disinformation spread around.
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