Buzz or Provari ?

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arkador

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Provari
No plastic threads to screw up
Greater voltage range
Greater amp limitfor dual coils and rebuildables
Stainless steel
Doesnt require stacked bats
Upgrade from v1to v2 was$20, didnt haveto buy a new one
Dont have to unscrew base to stop battery drain
Better quality mod all the way around
Proven track record for durability.
Buzz only seems cheaper, but you get what you pay for.
in response to your points
1: they are delrin threads, and are actually a safety feature, much like the vent holes, never heard of anyone screwing them up by cross threading
2: Provari does have a wider range, but VERY few users use more than 6v
3: only if you have the V2, and VERY few users go that high..
4: that is a negative factor if you want a lighter mod
5: How is stacked batteries a disadvantage? the buzz has several on-board forms of protection, and my batteries are protected to boot.
6: no comment, that only affects the Provari, I didn't have to upgrade my buzz...
7: BP can sit for several weeks without draining the batteries, this is simply a different form of on/off.
8: that is a subjective comment, both are very high quality.
9: Buzz has a proven track record also
10: higher cost does not mean higher quality, it means higher profit margin.

Buzz Pro has better battery life without having to upgrade to a different cap
Buzz pro is available in full range of colors
Matching colored tanks
Brass or chrome caps available
Notcigs often honors warranty on 2nd hand mods (Provape does NOT)
Notcigs has a more active ECF community (tips, answers and help without having to contact the vendor)

I don't think it is really fair to argue one is better than the other. they both have ALOT of positive factors, and very few negative factors.

Most of the arguments I see from the diehard Provari fans are subjective.

I won't say that one is better than the other, just that my personal preference led me to the Buzz, and I am VERY happy with my choice, as is my pocket book!
 
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I spent the last few weeks trying to decide between these two mods after going from a 510 mini to a 5v passthrough (once you go higher volts you never want to go back). I knew I wanted a VV but knew nothing about them and had no idea what kind to get. After a lot of reading and watching videos it came down to the Buzz Pro or the Provari. These are my reasons for choosing the Buzz Pro.

A lot of people love the Provari because of how cool it looks or how luxurious it feels in their hand. Nothing wrong with cool, but I am a practical gal. I want something that does the job, won't cost a fortune to fix if something goes wrong and won't make me cry if it gets broken, lost or stolen.

The affordability of the Buzz, on my budget at least, makes having a backup device more feasible. A lot of posts I read about the Buzz were from people who owned more than one so I don't think I am alone here.

Dial vs Display? Those Provari videos about how to work the menu may seem pretty complicated compared to the Buzz but that wasn't really a factor for me. I thought driving a stick shift was impossible until I learned how. However, all that wear and tear on the button made me nervous (see above). And while it may be cool to know how many tenths of a volt you are vaping at, I really don't care. The way I would be using it, I would be adjusting for taste, not volts, so the dial on the Buzz, for me, is easier and makes more sense.

Search the forums for "Provari" or "Buzz Pro" and "dropped" or "Warranty" or whatever else you can think of and see what you come up with. Watch video reviews with the sound off so you can see both in action without having to listen to what someone else thinks. Both the Provari and the Buzz seems like solid devices. Pick what will best fit YOU. Good Luck.
 

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Provari
No plastic threads to screw up
Greater voltage range
Greater amp limitfor dual coils and rebuildables
Stainless steel
Doesnt require stacked bats
Upgrade from v1to v2 was$20, didnt haveto buy a new one
Dont have to unscrew base to stop battery drain
Better quality mod all the way around
Proven track record for durability.
Buzz only seems cheaper, but you get what you pay for.

I agree fully. The Provari really is hands down a better built PV. I dont see how anyone can question that. The buzz is great for a cheaper PV but you really do get what you pay for. The Provari is worth every penny and has a more advanced circuit. The menu system is the main argument in comparing but unless you have a provari you dont realize that its just as easy as the wheel and takes really the same amount of time to adjust plus its more accurate. By the time you take your finger of the button to adjust the wheel youd already be changing the voltage on the provari. I didnt think it would be as quick before i had one either. It was one of the reasons i didnt like the provari but when you get one and try it ,its a different story.I adjust the voltage without the vari even leaving my mouth while im puffing on it. The Provari also has a much better fire button and a lot smoother when pressing. Provari also has a more solid connector . Dont get me wrong i do like both PV's but the provari is a better PV which is also why it costs more
 

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Buzz Pro is way better.
Could list the pros and cons but I'll just say that it's the one I have and use. :]
Colors, light weight and the precious wheel make the difference - can't wait for the small version with 14250 (?) bats, the eVVo (?).
My kingdom to experiment a Darwin!
btw, compared today the buzz with the LT (Vulcano or night rider) and it takes a lot less effort (and time) to push the same amount of vapor.
V2 of provari add much needed value tough.
 

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If you have a buzz your gonna of course like the buzz . Like Pbusardo referenced to the Provari really is the holy grail of PV's . Personally i have tried both and the Provari is by far a better PV in every aspect imo and i used to be against it before i actually tried one just like phil said also. Since this thread is in the buzz forum im sure you will have lots of people saying the buzz is better that never tried a provari.
 

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If you have a buzz your gonna of course like the buzz . Like Pbusardo referenced to the Provari really is the holy grail of PV's . Personally i have tried both and the Provari is by far a better PV in every aspect imo and i used to be against it before i actually tried one just like phil said also. Since this thread is in the buzz forum im sure you will have lots of people saying the buzz is better that never tried a provari.

Also remember, not everyone cares about the numbers, some people just care about the vape. I for one, like a great vape without futzing around with see what voltage I'm at or what ohm my carto is under load, I just don't care. The Buzz gets me where I want to be, very simply and clean. Pbusardo is also very fond of the Buzz Pro.

Because I bought a Buzz in no way means I bought a cheap inferior device, it means I bought a device that was right for me. The Provari is very cool no doubt, you get what you set, and the functions are second to none. However, I've used a gaggle of different devices and honestly, most of the "high end" pv's VAPE roughly the same to me. You build your own mods, so I can see why the numbers are important to you. I don't care one way or the other, so the simplicity of the Buzz is perfect. iPhone or Android? Who cares, get what you like, not what the masses tell you is better.
 

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These debates are not for hobbiests like me. Its for people with very limited resources that can only afford 1 mod. If you have ever met someone that has dumped hundreds of dollars into PVs and cartos and attys, ect.. and still hasn't been satisfied enough to stop smoking, you would understand the dilema. People come to these forums for advice, and debates help them choose, so they don't have to buy one of everything and "see what is right for them". Even though I know what is right for me, that doesn't mean I would not love to have my mind changed 8)
 

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I'm almost ready to order my first PV. I was looking real hard at the Infinity,but thought I'ld maybe spend the extra $$$
and get a Buzz. I'm thinking about going with a matching M1A1,kind of like the dark blue and the root beer. But there's always the choice of Black with Chrome caps with the Oakland Raidrs Logo engraved and either the black or silver tank.

I'm also looking at the Provari now. They have a new V2 version and they're coming out with a Limited Edition Blue Screen.
Didn't know if I wanted to spend the money needed for the Buzz or Provari,but my tax return should be here any day.
So, why not go for the best. Never owned and E Cig,except a disposible Blu bought at Walgreens.to see if I wouilde like vaping. I've smoked for 40 yrs. and have been doing my research for pushing 3 months now.
The Provari only uses one battery,so no stacked batteries (kind of a good thing). Not quite the color selection as the Buzz.
But it has a better warranty 1 yr. with optional 1 yr. extended.

So, lets hear it !!!!!!!

Give me all your Pros ands Cons.

I read all five pages of this thread and all I can say is that the Raiders Suck, and I think I'll get a Provari as a backup to my Denali.

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Also remember, not everyone cares about the numbers, some people just care about the vape. I for one, like a great vape without futzing around with see what voltage I'm at or what ohm my carto is under load, I just don't care. The Buzz gets me where I want to be, very simply and clean. Pbusardo is also very fond of the Buzz Pro.

Because I bought a Buzz in no way means I bought a cheap inferior device, it means I bought a device that was right for me. The Provari is very cool no doubt, you get what you set, and the functions are second to none. However, I've used a gaggle of different devices and honestly, most of the "high end" pv's VAPE roughly the same to me. You build your own mods, so I can see why the numbers are important to you. I don't care one way or the other, so the simplicity of the Buzz is perfect. iPhone or Android? Who cares, get what you like, not what the masses tell you is better.

DOnt get me wrong im not saying the buzz is bad or a cheap inferior device . The buzz is great and right up there with the top mods .Im just saying that the Provari is a better PV. A buzz will still be a great mod for anyone . Im saying the provari is worth the extra money and will last forever.It is a great pv in every aspect.
 

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Provari
No plastic threads to screw up
Greater voltage range
Greater amp limitfor dual coils and rebuildables
Stainless steel
Doesnt require stacked bats
Upgrade from v1to v2 was$20, didnt haveto buy a new one
Dont have to unscrew base to stop battery drain
Better quality mod all the way around
Proven track record for durability.
Buzz only seems cheaper, but you get what you pay for.

1. I have never cross threaded. The buzz is very well machined and the threads are buttery smooth.
2. Dual coils suck anyway but i can push a 1.5ohm to 5 volts. There is no need to go any higher. Also if you are using a rebuildable you generally have it in the 2ohm range. Who would want to push a 2ohm past 5 volts???
3. If i had a dollar for everytime ii dropped my buzz on concrete and picked it up and started vaping again i could buy a primantis
4. Stacking batteries in an unprotected tube = safe if you're smart about it. stacking batteries in a buzz = if you worry about that your life must be pretty damn boring
5. You actually had to go over a year only pushing 2.5amps then send the mod in for a $20 upgrade for an extra amp. That's pretty dumb not to mention wayyyyy to much money.
6. Nope....you just have to push a button 20 times and scroll through a menu to turn it off...much more effective
7. Yeah...because the buzz is obviously a terrible quality mod...might as well be made of plastic
8. I have never heard of someone dropping and breaking a buzz
9. Yeah...you pay $70 less and get a much lighter PV that doesn't have a crappy back lit plastic button that you have to press 30 times to figure out what voltage works right with a certain juice.

Look i am not saying the provari is a bad mod...at all. I have used one and honestly they are awesome. Would i buy one? Hell yeah. A provari with an oddy would be a dream set up. But i love my buzzes and ipro. To actually make a list of why they aren't good mods is kind of dumb.

The provari has features that are better than the buzz and the buzz has features that are better than the provari. If i had a choice i would rather own a buzz because i love button and hit control. It all comes down to personal preference.

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DOnt get me wrong im not saying the buzz is bad or a cheap inferior device . The buzz is great and right up there with the top mods .Im just saying that the Provari is a better PV. A buzz will still be a great mod for anyone . Im saying the provari is worth the extra money and will last forever.It is a great pv in every aspect.

Yeah but saying the provari is a better PV is not fact...its opinion. I could shoot back and say the Omega is a better PV because you never have to worry about something going wrong with the wiring and not being able to vape.

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I loves Phils reviews . I seem to share his same opinions on everything. Hes a fellow Boge carto lover too.

As for the Provari vs Buzz i didnt mean preference wise ,i meant the electrical component use and machining and overall functions/design make it a better PV and more expensive to manufacture. Preference wise its your choice which you like better for you .
 

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I read all five pages of this thread and all I can say is that the Raiders Suck, and I think I'll get a Provari as a backup to my Denali.

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