California Statewide Flavor Ban?

[ScottP]

Maybe depends on what you mean by work. It's not like the time they spend in session is a major part of their workload. Most of their time in any State is spent meeting with important (rich) people collecting money and discussing ideas on appropriate legislative action. Then they get together with other legislators and negotiate what gets to the top of the agenda. The last step is going to their House of business and voting stuff in. That part doesn't take much time at all. Pass the bills that matter to their donors, and fill in with a bit of political grandstanding to make it look real for the masses.

Well here our legislators make $41,000 TOTAL for a two year term. So when not in session most of them return to normal jobs so they don't starve.

 

[Eskie]

Well here our legislators make $41,000 TOTAL for a two year term. So when not in session most of them return to normal jobs so they don't starve.

Same in NY. The leader of the state assembly would leave to do things like spend twenty years soliciting clients for his class action suits and malpractice cases. And people wondered why tort reform could just never get passed in this state.

Oh and that no show job he had at Jacoby & Meyers for steering business their way. But hey, he couldn't get by without a second income source.

This is why it should be illegal to hold a position in government while still working in the private sector. It would be far cheaper for the citizens than scrimping on the salaries.

 

[Philabos]

I don't really view the Cali government as communistic. I see it more like a Democratic Tyranny that wants nothing less than total control over it's citizens subjects.

True, but they are not alone. My state has over 300 legislators with 2300 staffers. There are over 30,000 staffers nationwide, not counting the 13,000 federal congressional staffers. They are all looking for something to do to appear relevant. Which is primarily reacting to the news cycle, which is where we are these days.

 

[HarpoM]

It looks like the vote is today. I guess I can kiss flavored vape juice goodbye, or jump back into DIY again.
I'm hating my state more and more.

 

[zoiDman]

It looks like the vote is today. I guess I can kiss flavored vape juice goodbye, or jump back into DIY again.
I'm hating my state more and more.

SB-38 does seem to be Sailing thru committee with No Problems.

 

[Eskie]

It looks like the vote is today. I guess I can kiss flavored vape juice goodbye, or jump back into DIY again.
I'm hating my state more and more.

That's the type of thing you won't know the outcome of until the court challenges finish. I can't imagine there won't be several filed immediately if it passes and gets signed by the governor.

 

[HarpoM]

That's the type of thing you won't know the outcome of until the court challenges finish. I can't imagine there won't be several filed immediately if it passes and gets signed by the governor.

That is very true. I should hold out some hope

 

[Eskie]

Nothing wrong with fighting and hoping got the best whole still preparing for the worst. Best way to not get burned in the end.

 

[zoiDman]

That's the type of thing you won't know the outcome of until the court challenges finish. I can't imagine there won't be several filed immediately if it passes and gets signed by the governor.

JMO... But I would be Very Surprised if SB-38 became Law that a 9th District Court would throw it out.

And would be even More Surprised if the 9th CCOA didn't Overruled the lower court if the Did.

 

[zoiDman]

That is very true. I should hold out some hope

There is Always Hope.

But being able to make DIY e-Liquids is the Best Insurance against hope.

 

[mp25]

It looks like the vote is today. I guess I can kiss flavored vape juice goodbye, or jump back into DIY again.
I'm hating my state more and more.

Southern California makes my home city of Chicago look like Alabama.

 

[zoiDman]

Looks like Sen. Hill has moved SB-38 to the Inactive File.

Bill History

 

[ChelsB]

Is there any concern over nicotine pouches? Those come in various flavors too and are great for rainy days at work when I don’t want to go outside for a nic fix

 

[WorksForMe]

Looks like Sen. Hill has moved SB-38 to the Inactive File.

Bill History

From the California State Legislature Glossary of Legislative Terms:

INACTIVE FILE
The portion of the Daily File containing legislation that is ready for floor consideration, but, for a variety of reasons, is dormant. An author may move a bill to the inactive file if he or she wishes to take it up at a later date. Once a bill is on the inactive file, one day’s public notice is needed to place it back on the agenda.

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[zoiDman]

Is there any concern over nicotine pouches? Those come in various flavors too and are great for rainy days at work when I don’t want to go outside for a nic fix

I know of No Exemption that would save Flavored Nicotine Pouches from the Kibosh under SB-38.

 

[zoiDman]

Is there any concern over nicotine pouches? Those come in various flavors too and are great for rainy days at work when I don’t want to go outside for a nic fix

I know of No Exemption that would save Flavored Nicotine Pouches from the Kibosh under SB-38.

Or from AB-739

Bill Text - AB-739 Flavored tobacco products.

 

[zoiDman]

From the California State Legislature Glossary of Legislative Terms:




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The Inactive File in CA Legislation is very much like a Pause Button.

 

[englishmick]

The Inactive File in CA Legislation is very much like a Pause Button.

Any idea why it's been paused?

 

[zoiDman]

Any idea why it's been paused?

It's Hard to say.

Sometimes it is done to give an Author/Party more or a better time to Pick-Up yea votes.
Sometimes it is a PR/Timing thing.
Sometimes there might be a Competing Bill that might be gaining more traction. Such as AB-739.
Sometimes there might be a Legal or a Possible Duality issue with a Federal Regulation.

Just Really Hard to say in this case.

 

[Rossum]

Just Really Hard to say in this case.

Link posted in kristen's most recent update:

"PULLED BY THE AUTHOR after hookah advocates and cigar lobby gained exclusions in an amendment by Senate panel. Stay on alert for this to resurface!"

Proposed California ban on flavored tobacco products shelved by lawmakers

 

[zoiDman]

Link posted in kristen's most recent update:

"PULLED BY THE AUTHOR after hookah advocates and cigar lobby gained exclusions in an amendment by Senate panel. Stay on alert for this to resurface!"

Proposed California ban on flavored tobacco products shelved by lawmakers

Good Eye Rossum. I missed that Yesterday.

Kristin is Also right. Watch for it to Resurface. Because the Inactive File is meant for a Pause. Not for a Stop.

BTW - I wonder How Much Money it took to get a Hooka Exclusion?